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@Derpy Whooves  
Your link tells me you cant tell people to just use filters in the first point too though, as it allows bigotry to grow. What if the pictures I reported are used as rallying point by bigoted people? What if they see the acts in these as something thats okay IRL? It might , quote your link, “lead to them becoming more accepting of racist beliefs”  
“ It is thus in our best interests to not host anything which itself promotes racism, and thus we must apply these rules to existing images, not just new ones.”

@Derpy Whooves  
Sure, the moment your official stance changes back to “if Aryane or Nazi imagery/jokes/porn offend you and you think it should be all deleted, just filter it and stop reporting it”

@Derpy Whooves  
To see where your double standards lie. You cant say “this racism and racially hurtfull symbols in porn are okay, but these arent” “Why” “because for half a episode ponys were mean to zecora”  
In the gryphonstone episode all the gryphons were dicks, Gilda was a dick to all ponys but one and even that one until that episode aired. So, by that measurment gryphons in gaschambers pics are okay too, right? its just the ponys reversing the roles, and its a joke, and just filter it. Which i actually would be okay with. Its not my kind of humor, but some people probably think its funny.  
Or hell, lets do Dragon extermination porn. Dragons were antagonistic to ponys for most of the show. But lets sprinkle in IRL racism in form of pony supremacy but they are white humans for some reason based on that. Because if anyone doesnt like it, they can filter it, right?

So I was just told that if I dont like a racist fetish I should just filter it (when the zebras on top because its “role reversal” due to a very flimsy excuse regarding a single episode which had nothing of that level.) despite it heavily taking from IRL porn stereotypes and not referencing that episode at all.  
Since the changelings dominated the ponys in one episode and severall comics, is it okay to draw ponys in uniforms akin to nazis getting off on exterminating them while raping them? Im sure thats the fetish of a few folks.
 
Again,I wish you would delete exactly 0, zilch, nada, nix. I just wanna know how impartial you guys are here in deleting content.

@Background Pony #AB73  
Pretty much this, there is no reason not to be public with what art you are removing, and why.  
it would allow for a modicum of transperancy, but we all know that only happens when someone has enough of it all and leaks logs.

I dont know why you mention “all around the planet” when it has been shown this site just cares about what the US politics of the week are anyways, and bases its rules on US understanding of things anyways. While beeing hosted in France, and probably beeing populated only by a american minority.

Yeah can we let this page be handled by some guys in India, or from Fiver? Im sure they would be able, and actually willing, to tackle a scriptkiddie that just attacks threads that are against censorship. The fucking Rule 0 threads closed for a entire day now you absolute Limes.  

@Background Pony #9861  
Im not gonna pretend that he isnt the guy that does nothing but attack other personally, dox, rile up, and guildtrip people into behaving as he wishes them to all day on Twitter, including people on here, just because here he has a less ugly avatar on here.

@Background Pony #28E2  
Its more that he thinks he knows best how “dangerous” artists can be and that the site should do everything possible to regulate and supress artists, through rules and/or fear of reprecussions, so they will not step out of line.  
Which personally I find even worse and horrifying

@SomeDerpibooruUser  
They talk with him on Twitter, they well know, they just dont want Derpibooru users to know.

@Background Pony #23C0  
Forgot to log in, thats me.
 
Seriously what the fuck m8

Great fucking Show Twitter. You have done it. Amazing, the horsies will now have a harder time getting help. Hitlers defeated.  
Im so tired of this insanity. How can these monsters live with themselves? How do they fucking look in a mirror withouth poking their own eyes out?

@Poison Trail  
>I’ll call it even when an image featuring a cop being brutally murdered is allowed to remain and is justified with calls of “S’just a joke bro, you mad?”.  
that actually happened, if you ahd followed the conversation, with this pic https://www.derpibooru.org/images/2385781?q=ACAB  
Which shows a murdered cop-pony with a lenghty rant how its okay to slaughter cops. When the mdoeration polled on it, they said it was a-ok

@Venport  
Well as said, that would have been in the power of the staff to create a poll that would have far more visibility. And they had a lot of time for it.

@Venport
 
@PoemeMystique  
Its still beyond 1000 users and checked for new acount influence which was minimal (and for censorship), a ammount that would be accepted as a good poll for a country with millions of voters.  
Fact is most people dont even use the forums, and if the staff wanted to actually consult the community they could, but theyd rather not wake up the wasps nest. Instead they will whittle away at Wrongdraw until artists they deem as bothersome to their ideas will be driven out and the average user will just assume the artist themselves removed their pictures.  
Its pushing TSPs iron fist but all nice and clean, withouth as much of the backlash.  
And I wont stop telling that to whoever wants to hear it or not until I am convinced this isnt whats going to happen, which wont happen until I see longtime proof of the new rules beeing applied fairly on both sides.  
Which would still be suboptimal since removing art for beeing controversial is such a authoritarian move.

@Background Pony #3241  
He doesnt care for anything outside his own bedroom and twitter, your wasting your time
 
@PoemeMystique  
basically, this is a farce as it has been worded and with which pictures have been choosen as examples.

Would genital mutilation pics count as sexual discrimination? Its a real practice thats mutilating many women in africa each year, and thus a very real danger, based in very sexist ideology. We shouldnt spread that on here.

@Loopers  
You say that, and right beneath you this guy is back to his shit calling a entire Berufsstand (no idea what thats caled in english) basically inhuman due to whatever bullshit goes on in the US withouth reprecursion against his discrimination thats aparently supposed to be purged with these new rules.  
I am not convinced this will hold (if it even gets applied fairly) any longer then the US decides to be retarded about something again, and the international community of this page can go defend basic artistic freedoms again because of it.

@Loopers  
I will give it a rest once I have been convinced these rules wont be used arbitrarily and unfairly.  
“Dude trust us” wont cut it after the shitshow that was the last month+

@Background Pony #7D68  
Pretty much, by long and short anything with a swastika on it that isnt Aryanne getting raped or hurt or beeing told to fuck off will be deleted, and then the mob will scream to expel something else, since they now know it works. Foalcon, rape, murder, who knows.  
After this shitshow and the leak of the moderator chatlogs I have no reason to trust this bendable and one sided wording will be applied fair in any way or form.

 
“Why are you boiling frogs at 2 AM TSP?”  
“Because I lost controll of my site”

@Princess Luna  
But that other pic makes it very clear the cop/pig has been killed for beeing a cop. Theres still blood on the pony that killed him, and a big rant about cops deserving it above it.  
Again, I dont mind if it stays, I want as much as possible to stay up, even the shit I dislike. But then other equally fucked up shit has to stay too

@Lisboeta
 
@Datte-Before-Dawn  
Pretty much this.  
As written, the rules are just as before basically. Which is great.  
But due to the entire last month one cant expect us to just trust Moderation. And what is beeing presented right now is iffy.  
Now I dont mind the pics you say staying up, Im all for as much as possible staying up.  
But by these same words, a pic of aryanne next to a dead griffin with a rifle should stay up as long as she doesnt say “Beginn the Cleanse” or some shit like that

Again, Im already curious how many of certain 200 pics are going to stay up once they come in

@Princess Luna  
Okay thanks for answering, but so I can be sure here: if I redrew that exact same picture myself, with fresh OC, and it still had rarity say those things etc, would it stay up?