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@Brass Beau
I think Spike is fairly predictable — although of course with a show like this with so many writers, there's always the chance of some OOC outliers.

And what do you mean, inferred? I was looking for it and I didn't see amy sign!
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Brass Beau

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@Latecomer
"Simple" may have been the wrong term. "Predictable" might be more appropriate. When presented with a problem, an observer should be able to predict how a character would try to solve it. An observer should also be able to predict what approach is mostly likely to solve the problem. It's possible to predict Spike's reactions most of the time, but the outcome is less so. But that just may be my brain refusing to stop being analytical. damn English classes
There's also the whole "getting shit on" debate which I'm ill-equipped to go into. I'd like to analyze that situation more to present a more objective statement. I'd like to believe there's a fair number of episodes portraying Spike positively.
As for the last point, it was inferred in the final episode that Spike still holds affection for Rarity.
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@Brass Beau
But one of the things people like about the Manes, I think, is that they're not simple characters. Although on the other hand, I have had some difficulty grasping Starlight due to a lack of straghtforward traits… so I suppose it can go either way. Here, let me try a less off-hand answer.

Spike is certainly Twilight's friend, but also sort of her servant/employee, and while not exactly her brother or her son definitely family. He's pretty mature and competent for his age, but not always as much as he thinks he is. And while he's quite close to most of the Manes (very close to those of them born as unicorns) he is in the end of different age, gender, species and not an Element Bearer, which means there will be times the group has no place for him.

Now, did the writers always get the balance right? Probably not. But then, you could say the same about several characters.


@Brass Beau
Where is this stated? The comics?
Brass Beau

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@DerpyFast
If you take Dragon Quest, Molt Down and Dragon Dropped together I suppose an argument could be made that Spike's arc is about growing up but the CMC already covered that and the fact he still had a crush on Rarity after the time skip would be an argument against it.
DerpyFast
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I feel like you can retroactively make Spike's arc about learning to value his own time. If they took that idea and ran with it, there was potential for Rainbow Dash and Spike episodes.

Real talk about Sparity, though:
For Rarity, Spike is a helper she can compensate while keeping her romantic options open.

For Spike, Rarity is just an attractive blank slate he projects things onto. You can see this in his fantasy in A Dog and Pony Show, with Shmarity, and with his Rarity doll.

They never spent time together for the sake of spending time together; it was always transactional.

I think Dragon Dropped was their way of highlighting all of this without officially killing the ship.
Brass Beau

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@Latecomer
But they're not people. They're characters. It's certainly possible to have complex characters that are forced into situations in which they'll behave in unexpected ways but that's not how I'd describe any character in FiM. There's nothing wrong with evolving a character or having a simple character. An inconsistent character could be a detriment to a series, though. When a four year old can pick up on that, there's a problem. Spike isn't a character like the Manes, the CMC or even Trixie. He's a plot device.
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@Background Pony #7C80
Settle on a characterization and relationship to the other characters instead of changing it as the plot demands. Is Spike Twilight's friend or brother? Is he competent, helping Twilight with daily tasks or a clumsy child? Hell! Is he even a primary character? All of the above which means none of the above.
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Abandoned By Hope
That Invincible pic of Chrysalis and Thorax seems very appropriate now that i know certain events come to pass in the original material.

Thorax is absolutely the kind of guy to get raped.
Background Pony #7C80
I've noticed that quite a few fans are either neutral on Spike, or don't like him, saying the show wasted his potential.

How would you have fixed it so Spike would be more popular? Maybe reveal his parents? Or is Spike fine the way he is?
Background Pony #7C80
Someone on the TV Tropes forum said the show doesn't really have much character development.

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