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Garden Tinker
Wallet After Summer Sale -
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@Princess Celestia
Sigh of relief partnered with big thumbs-up
Thank you, sincerely…
 
@Princess Celestia
Otherwise, can confirm that everything seems to be working correctly. Comment-area buttons darken when hovered and perform their regular tasks when clicked (including hyperlink and image spawning a prompt box), menu-bar dropdown lists automatically drop down and the list source darkens, links change colors when hovered, all seems normal at a glance.
…As a disclaimer, I actually have no idea how much of that is CSS vs raw HTML vs JS, because I abandoned the headache of working directly with CSS in favor of JS shortly after first picking up coding, and then at one point abandoned working with raw HTML to solely work in JS altogether. And so I’d do all of the above through JS.
Is there anything in particular we should be looking for? Specific things that we should check to see if are working, or that you suspect to not be working / have been borked?

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1100

Background Pony #2771
@Princess Celestia
The only noticeable change on the homepage is slight upwards movement of the magnifying glass icon compared to regular Derpibooru; this happens only on 110% zoom and more. It isn’t visibly misaligned or anything; it’s still fine.
On image page also the text in comment formatting buttons (B, i, U, etc.) changes slightly. I see that it ends up with “font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif” applied instead of just sans-serif. It’s still just as usable, no real problem here.

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1099

Princess Celestia
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Administrator
Devops
@JP
Still holding on tightly to this one, friend. Had to take a moment to remind myself that this, in theory, is not what the desktop version will be.
I swear, it’s the most inconsequential things (the appearance of a website vs. something like an impending natural disaster) that can most easily nearly cause some of us a panic attack…
Edit:  Just offhandedly clicked an image and scrolled down to see if it had comments, and ew ew ew ew, round profile pics by default is gross.  Dx
  • And please, please don’t go to the abhorrent circular profile picture concept that everywhere else has gone to. It doesn’t look better than the square version. It never has.
(it’s configurable)

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1098

Princess Celestia
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Administrator
Devops
derp, i left the redesign branch running instead of downtiming it, i meant to test if it deploys correctly and to determine what to look at next, i didn’t mean for anyone to see it yet
To note:
  • CSS there is 40-50% complete, a lot is missing
  • HTML isn’t adjusted for some CSS
  • lots of stuff just hasn’t been looked at yet

What you saw is entirely and utterly incomplete and is not representative of what the redesign will look like

I’ll change the branch there to the one with JS bundler changes and then you can tell me whether JS works, since that’s what I wanted feedback on.
upd: beta site now has the stuff I actually want you to look at! navigate here: https://beta.derpibooru.org/

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1097

Background Pony #1057
@Nightfall Gloam
For Princess Celestia’s info: that blue bar is the .media-box__overlay, which has absolute positioning, not being contained; either .media-box or .media-box__header need to contain it, such as via position: relative

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1096

Garden Tinker
Wallet After Summer Sale -
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@JP
Trust me… I sincerely understand.
I saw how completely flat and ugly the Windows 8 UI was compared to Windows 7 and its Aero, and I’ve hung onto Win7 with a deathgrip.
Steam has decided it will nolonger function for me, Firefox has told me I’ve reached general end of lifetime, but I’ll be damned if my taskbar and window borders don’t still look pretty. I’ll get a new rig one day in order to handle modern updates of 3D games again, but I’ll be dubious AF until I see those rumors that Win10 can emulate Aero to some degree actually turn out to be true…
But I have seen enough mobile screenshots to know you guys get the rough end of the stick on a regular basis, and I feel so sorry for you.  v.v  I once came across a ‘tutorial’ on ‘modern mobile site aesthetics’, and it sickened me. Slammed it straight into my ‘what NOT to do’ list.
If I had to guess, it’s in part because of tiring it must be to ACTUALLY get a nice-looking display to render across fifty-two different sets of screen dimensions, DPI differences between devices, and Luna knows what all else. Honestly, it’s the kind of project that makes part of me want to tackle it out of spite, just to prove it can be done - that a mobile site can, in fact, function whilst having a pretty UI that takes up a little of that precious screen real-estate.
    You know, with a pretty UI. And not just more ads. (No offense to Derpi; I love their banner ads that show up between the page content and the comment box. <3 )
But seriously, though - way back when, my first big forum experience used a white-and-light-blue combination, and I used the default skin for Derpi for years as well. I use dark mode now, but I still enjoy seeing the normal version of the site on my way by whenever my cookies get wiped and I need to fix my settings again. Trixie Blue, flags high.
…This quickly devolved, my apologies.

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1095

JP
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Guardian - Refused to surrender in the face of the Lunar rebellion and showed utmost loyalty to the Solar Empire (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -

I miss the show so much
I swear, it’s the most inconsequential things (the appearance of a website vs. something like an impending natural disaster) that can most easily nearly cause some of us a panic attack…
That’s because most redesigns these days are downgrades. Dumbed-down flat grayscale mobile UIs with hamburger menus, and essential information/functionality being hidden or removed because “they confuse the users”. Merely announcing a redesign can fill you with dread, because you know what’s coming.
Derpi fortunately hasn’t gone down that road, but I fear that one day it will.

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1094

Garden Tinker
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Artist -

Chrome Version 93.0.4577.107 (Official Build) (64-bit), and can confirm image spoilering is not operating correctly, and that comments- and favorites numbers cannot be seen above any image:

(The image-adding system for comments seems to be completely borked on the normal site for my setup as well, at least when it comes to imgur images, given that the example images in the Detailed Syntax Guide won’t even load, so I hope this actually posts for anypony/everypony else.)
Also, on one hand, the bold (Featured Image, list titles at bottom of page) feels too aggressive. On the other, it feels VERY videogame-y, at least with the all-caps font, for whatever reason, and I’m down for that. Furthermore, I’m using a Chromebook netbook, rather than a pocket device, for perspective on that ‘aggression’.
I wish I could double-check things with my desktop’s Firefox, but I have no current way of connecting it to the internet at the moment.
 
@JP
Still holding on tightly to this one, friend. Had to take a moment to remind myself that this, in theory, is not what the desktop version will be.
I swear, it’s the most inconsequential things (the appearance of a website vs. something like an impending natural disaster) that can most easily nearly cause some of us a panic attack…
Edit:  Just offhandedly clicked an image and scrolled down to see if it had comments, and ew ew ew ew, round profile pics by default is gross.  Dx
  • And please, please don’t go to the abhorrent circular profile picture concept that everywhere else has gone to. It doesn’t look better than the square version. It never has.

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1093

Background Pony #2771
Tags are all mashed together when editing. There are no discernible boundaries between them.
When viewing a filter, there’s also no spacing between tags, but it’s better than the above. Should use the same style as image pages.
Filters page is ugly, buttons are in a bulleted list rather than horizontal sequence.
Page navigation widget looks thicc and unaligned; the section with page number and down arrow does nothing when hovered over (but it does work on DNP list). On second and further pages, the borders between first, prev and current page sections are lost.
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The search section below images also has weird layout and spacing. Sort options should be in line with search button, not below. Widgets like the NOT button should have space to breathe; now it looks like “NOTSearch terms”. Search textbox could use more inner spacing too. There’s also the weird empty page-wide rounded rectangle above the search button, but it’s also present on Derpi today, it’s just less noticeable.
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In forums/comment sections, personal titles look like regular text. It’s confusing.
In posts/comments, quotes lack outlines, so they only differ from regular text by indentation.
On tag guidelines page, tags have vertical inner spacing, but lack horizontal inner spacing and vertical outer spacing.
Profile page layout is messed up, even more so at like 170% zoom. Additionally, the about me section shows HTML markup and not the rendered result.
That’s in Firefox 125.

The top bar search box still isn’t stretched out. It should stretch itself as wide as possible, because there is plenty of room.
Funnily enough it gets very wide in mobile view (e.g. when page is zoomed in), but then it gets its own line, which is annoying.

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1092

JP
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Guardian - Refused to surrender in the face of the Lunar rebellion and showed utmost loyalty to the Solar Empire (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -

I miss the show so much
  • A strange blue bar at the top on many pages, as already reported
  • Badge lists are broken everywhere, like Moonlight Bloom reported already reported
  • Small caps titles look a bit jarring
  • I’m not too keen on circular profile images, but maybe that’s just me?
  • Tag “Implied by” lists are always visible, the checkbox does nothing.
  • Tags don’t have the Watch/Spoiler/Hide dropdowns (possibly related to the JS error in the console?)
  • Tag shorthands box (below the tag editor) layout is completely broken.
  • Fancy tag editing is absent. Only the plain editor seems to be available. Perhaps related to the JS error?
  • “Save tags” and “Cancel” buttons below the tag editor are displayed with list bullets.
  • Profile page link list is vertical, not horizontal, and it takes too much space. Perhaps this is the same bug that breaks the tag shorthands box?
  • The profile badge list has too much padding
  • In fact, everything on the profile page seems to have too much padding
  • The tag search box (on the Tags page) and non-fancy tag editors have zero padding
  • Paddings in general seem to be random. Some elements have lots of it, some have none.
  • Generally, all buttons seem to always have CSS transitions enabled. No media queries are used to disable them when the browser is in “reduced motion” mode.
  • The Galleries dropdown (on image pages) is clipped against the image info box, making them unusable
  • The top bar search box still isn’t stretched out. It should stretch itself as wide as possible, because there is plenty of room. Similarly, comment and forum post search boxes are tiny, unpadded and narrow boxes.
  • Comment/forum post blockquotes are displayed without borders and their contents are hard to tell from non-quoted content. They need borders/background colors for visibility.
  • Image comment counts are vertically misaligned compared to the other icons/numbers that are listed above images on list pages. The backgrounds of those statistics bars are also missing, which looks weird if the image is transparent (you can’t tell where the image ends and statistics start).
  • Speaking of backgrounds, various header/footer backgrounds are missing. There’s lots of lines separating areas from each other, which is good, but some backgrounds would also be good.
  • Perhaps there are too many boxes? For example, the list of comments/forum posts in your profile looks inconsistent, as the boxes touch each other, causing double borders to appear between the elements. If everything has to be in boxes, then some padding is needed between them.
  • This error shows up in the console on every page:
Uncaught TypeError: f(...) is null
    ni https://beta.derpibooru.org/js/app-0750e0da38529d32af19a7ad02ff25fd.js?vsn=d:19
    <anonymous> https://beta.derpibooru.org/js/app-0750e0da38529d32af19a7ad02ff25fd.js?vsn=d:27
    Ht https://beta.derpibooru.org/js/app-0750e0da38529d32af19a7ad02ff25fd.js?vsn=d:1
    <anonymous> https://beta.derpibooru.org/js/app-0750e0da38529d32af19a7ad02ff25fd.js?vsn=d:27
app-0750e0da38529d32af19a7ad02ff25fd.js:19:2887
Perhaps some of the breakage is caused by this as it halts JavaScript processing?
Using FF 125.0.3 on Kubuntu (with snaps wiped from the system).
I assume the lack of non-dark themes isn’t permanent. You won’t take Trixie Blue from me without repercussions.

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Nightfall Gloam
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Artist -

Loves Lighthoof
The gallery page on the redesign currently has a random blue bar on top of the site’s header. Navigation is still fortunately possible but definitely not ideal right now.

Additionally, can’t seem to reply to forum messages from the redesign.
Using Firefox 125.0.2 (64 bit, native package) on Linux Mint 21.3

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1088

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Princess Celestia
The End wasn't The End - Found a new home after the great exodus of 2012

Administrator
Devops

Minimum Required Browser is Being Bumped

We recently switched to using Vite as our JS+CSS asset bundling tool, because the tool we were using previously (Webpack) was really slow (4x slower than Vite) and unwieldy (configuring it with every update became more and more hellish). It states that it requires Chrome >= 87 (2020). After looking into it, there is a chance the site would still work on Chrome >= 64 (roughly late 2017 / early 2018). We aim to support ES2020 as our default standard from now on, so we won’t include polyfills for older browsers in case we happen to use the features present in it. We will also not deliberately ruin compatibility without a good reason for it.
If you’d like to check if your browser can display the site correctly with the new JS/CSS assets, navigate to this link: https://beta.derpibooru.org (you might have to copy this URL and paste it in the browser navbar, as our Markdown stuff turns links into their relative equivalents)
We’d like to hear feedback from you about this!

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Background Pony #1057
@Ciaran
I didn’t mean any offense, it’s just something I happened to remember having come up before. Please interpret the tone of what I wrote more light-heartedly.

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1084

Ciaran
ラ・ゼッタ - For supporting the site
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Guardian - Earned a place among the ranks of the most loyal New Lunar Republic soldiers (April Fools 2023).
Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

Senior Moderator
友情は魔法だ
@Background Pony #1057
Well, ok, but while I have no idea what it has to do with the dev changes today, I still think if you want to find images with Lauren Faust on them, you can search the tag ‘Lauren Faust’.
If you want to use that to prove some other point, that’s fine, I guess. Whatever works for you. I just don’t know why you’re framing me as being opposed to whatever it is you’re proposing, or why that’s a perception you want to create.
Like, why would anyone give a shit if I thought the palette of the different tag categories was good or bad? How is presenting that as something I care about even useful for you in trying to advocate for your proposed change?
I don’t have anything to say about it. It’s not my site. I’m just a volunteer here.

Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1083

Background Pony #1057
Literally what?
Literally here and here.
I thought I saw it brought up more times than that, maybe I’m just remembering too intensely.
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🐴
Magnificent Metadata Maniac - #1 Assistant
Solar Guardian - Refused to surrender in the face of the Lunar rebellion and showed utmost loyalty to the Solar Empire (April Fools 2023).
Non-Fungible Trixie -
Magical Inkwell - Wrote MLP fanfiction consisting of at least around 1.5k words, and has a verified link to the platform of their choice

IRL 🎠 stallion
@Background Pony #2771
Also, how necessary is it to stick to a palette of 256 web-safe colors? It’s 2024, not 1996. More importantly, this is a place for images. Those images will use whichever colours they damn well please. I understand that colors should be perceptually distinct, but which part of the rainbow is most squeezed?
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Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Post 1079

Background Pony #2771
Ciaran’s lamentations about running out of distinct web-safe colors notwithstanding, this really means further division of tag categories is warranted.
Tags like “alternate version” and “derpibooru exclusive” could have their own category (let’s call it origin-adjacent), but still keep the same color as the origin tags. If a different color is necessary, they could get a slightly different shade.
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