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Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 44
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 43
gameleon
@Dogman15
Can confirm. That email is what we based the info in this article on: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2018/07/my-little-pony-season-8-part-2-returns.html
Can confirm. That email is what we based the info in this article on: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2018/07/my-little-pony-season-8-part-2-returns.html
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 42
Dogman15
I'm not famous.
An Equestria Daily staff member (I can show mods proof) gave me permission to share this image of an e-mail he received from someone at Discovery Family:
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 41
Background Pony #7FC6
@Background Pony #290F
Unusual, surprising, yes, but what order things aired in is what order things aired in and it’s important to make spoiler-filtering expectations sane.
Fair enough. But at the risk of being irritating about this, if it aired as part of a “Summer Surprises” promotional campaign that was also clearly not the official end to the hiatus, and the vast majority of (if not all) other sites refer to it as episode 18, and the majority of people coming here think of it as an early airing of episode 18, wouldn’t the sane thing be calling it that?
@soundtea
@soundtea
EDIT: Although at this point who cares.
I do. Although I tend to be a bit more pedantic than most people.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 40
soundtea
Ocellus is best buggo
I’m also more for tagging it as 18 for the long run since nothing has stated Yakety Sax isn’t going to be aired when the actual 18th episode comes around. I just think it’s better to nip it in the bud and correct it now instead of having a whole section with misplaced episode numbers.
EDIT: Although at this point who cares. Might as well go along since the newest is “15” now.
EDIT: Although at this point who cares. Might as well go along since the newest is “15” now.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 39
Zeb
Tag-Bot
@Princess Luna
Except people have been expecting this one to be tagged Episode 18.
And now we’re tagging episode 14 as 15.
And episode 15 will be tagged 16.
16 - 17
and 17 tagged 18 until we’re back to numbering them properly. Not to mention the week where there’s a “Break” while they air this episode again in the proper time.
Except people have been expecting this one to be tagged Episode 18.
And now we’re tagging episode 14 as 15.
And episode 15 will be tagged 16.
16 - 17
and 17 tagged 18 until we’re back to numbering them properly. Not to mention the week where there’s a “Break” while they air this episode again in the proper time.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 38
Princess Luna
Senior Moderator
Site Developer
Tag Czar
@Background Pony #290F
Unusual, surprising, yes, but what order things aired in is what order things aired in and it’s important to make spoiler-filtering expectations sane.
Unusual, surprising, yes, but what order things aired in is what order things aired in and it’s important to make spoiler-filtering expectations sane.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 37
Background Pony #7FC6
@The Frowning Pony
tl;dr for everyone, production order does not matter one iota (we have always used airing order); the only thing to be argued here is that we should be going off of a previous intended airing order instead of the actual airing order, which I think is folly. Sometimes networks change their minds.
But isn’t this something of an unusual case? Maybe I missed something, but I thought the entire point was that it was an early airing of an episode from later in the season. Also, do they not still intend to air the episode according to the “official” schedule they originally had for it? I feel like if it was just a matter of them shuffling around when they had planned to show something, then they wouldn’t still have it in their upcoming lineup like that.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 36
Background Pony #75E3
Stop referring to “air date” and “production order”. This episode aired out of both of them as a “surprise.”
Actual scheduled Saturday airing as an actual non-meme airing hasn’t happened yet.
Actual scheduled Saturday airing as an actual non-meme airing hasn’t happened yet.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 35
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 34
TexasUberAlles
@Dogman15
Can we take an opinion poll?
I do believe that poll has already been concluded, and the result was TSP singing “Well I’ve got the pistol, so I’ll keep the pesos… yeah, and that seems fair”. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ Doesn’t matter if any of us agree with it or not, as long as we tag the images the way Derpi wants us to tag the images.
I still think there should be a note added to the tag descriptions to the effect of “We number episodes by airdate and not by production order, so don’t tag Yakity-Sax as spoiler:s08e18”.
Can we take an opinion poll?
I do believe that poll has already been concluded, and the result was TSP singing “Well I’ve got the pistol, so I’ll keep the pesos… yeah, and that seems fair”. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ Doesn’t matter if any of us agree with it or not, as long as we tag the images the way Derpi wants us to tag the images.
I still think there should be a note added to the tag descriptions to the effect of “We number episodes by airdate and not by production order, so don’t tag Yakity-Sax as spoiler:s08e18”.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 33
Frustration in Excelsis
Worldbuilding Addict
@Zeb
Because Season 1 was the last and only season in which airing order and production order were the same, and previous site policy seems to have consistently been to prioritize the former over the latter.
Because Season 1 was the last and only season in which airing order and production order were the same, and previous site policy seems to have consistently been to prioritize the former over the latter.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 32
Dogman15
I'm not famous.
Can’t please everyone. I’m one of those not pleased. Ooh! Can we take an opinion poll?
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 31
Princess Luna
Senior Moderator
Site Developer
Tag Czar
@The Frowning Pony
tl;dr for everyone, production order does not matter one iota (we have always used airing order); the only thing to be argued here is that we should be going off of a previous intended airing order instead of the actual airing order, which I think is folly. Sometimes networks change their minds.
tl;dr for everyone, production order does not matter one iota (we have always used airing order); the only thing to be argued here is that we should be going off of a previous intended airing order instead of the actual airing order, which I think is folly. Sometimes networks change their minds.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 30
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 29
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Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 25
Zeb
Tag-Bot
@The Frowning Pony
I’m not sure if it was missed because I edited in at the last second, But what is the reason for us ignoring the official order and going by air order?
It mostly just confuses people who view other sources and see it’s listed as a different number. And it then screws up the numbering of the episode it was swapped with. So anyone looking at the episode numbers is getting the wrong information on our site, different from everywhere else.
It just seems really arbitrary that we’re ignoring the official sources for this information. And making it more confusing for our users. Changing the episode number because we want it to be different, and not because the series is changing the episode numbers.
I’m not sure if it was missed because I edited in at the last second, But what is the reason for us ignoring the official order and going by air order?
It mostly just confuses people who view other sources and see it’s listed as a different number. And it then screws up the numbering of the episode it was swapped with. So anyone looking at the episode numbers is getting the wrong information on our site, different from everywhere else.
It just seems really arbitrary that we’re ignoring the official sources for this information. And making it more confusing for our users. Changing the episode number because we want it to be different, and not because the series is changing the episode numbers.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 24
TexasUberAlles
@The Frowning Pony
Well, presumably he could say something along the lines of “Yeah, it’s supposed to be the 18th episode, here’s a script excerpt with ‘EP187’ clearly labeled, Discovery Networks didn’t ask us but we still got paid so whatevs” and maybe have it carry a little more weight than any of us on this side of the DHX security checkpoint could bring to bear.
I think you’re wrong here about Airdate v. Production Order, but it’s your site and not mine, so y’all are the ones who decide how stuff gets labeled. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Mostly I just want there to be one consistent rule that gets applied to all uploads and is clearly explained where everyone can see it, because right now there are two camps and each one is agenda-tagging screencaps accordingly.
Well, presumably he could say something along the lines of “Yeah, it’s supposed to be the 18th episode, here’s a script excerpt with ‘EP187’ clearly labeled, Discovery Networks didn’t ask us but we still got paid so whatevs” and maybe have it carry a little more weight than any of us on this side of the DHX security checkpoint could bring to bear.
I think you’re wrong here about Airdate v. Production Order, but it’s your site and not mine, so y’all are the ones who decide how stuff gets labeled. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Mostly I just want there to be one consistent rule that gets applied to all uploads and is clearly explained where everyone can see it, because right now there are two camps and each one is agenda-tagging screencaps accordingly.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 23
The Frowning Pony
Administrator
13 blinks per minute
@TexasUberAlles
Can Big Jim warp time? Because otherwise the question of “Was Yakity-Sax the 14th episode of MLP:FiM aired on DFC?” is still going to be “Yes”.
Can Big Jim warp time? Because otherwise the question of “Was Yakity-Sax the 14th episode of MLP:FiM aired on DFC?” is still going to be “Yes”.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 22
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 21
The Frowning Pony
Administrator
13 blinks per minute
@Zeb
As I said, get Brian Goldner to email me about it. Otherwise, official airing order is the episode order, and Yakity-Sax is the 14th episode of season 8 officially aired on the home network for the show.
As I said, get Brian Goldner to email me about it. Otherwise, official airing order is the episode order, and Yakity-Sax is the 14th episode of season 8 officially aired on the home network for the show.
Tagging Discussion » Can we get a mod consensus on the spoiler:s08e14 vs. spoiler:s08e18 tags? » Post 20
Zeb
Tag-Bot
@The Frowning Pony
“The people in charge of the product are wrong. We’re right.”
I can make exaggerated comments too. =P
[Said in jest]
But in seriousness. Do we have a reason for ignoring the official order? Why make it more confusing for the users who see a different number on all of the other sites?
“The people in charge of the product are wrong. We’re right.”
I can make exaggerated comments too. =P
[Said in jest]
But in seriousness. Do we have a reason for ignoring the official order? Why make it more confusing for the users who see a different number on all of the other sites?
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