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@Ereiam  
Marx was talking about what Capitalism inherently was  
What was neccesary in Capitalism
 
The Fallling rate of profit is neccesary in Capitalism and it is a direct result of competition and the organic composition of Capital  
Alienation of the producers from their products is neccesary in capitalism as a direct result of commodity exchange

@Ereiam  
Indeed. I speculate something that keeps private enterprise but does away with monetary profit at least in the way we perceive profit. Money will always be around I am willing to bet. It may not be communism but something that vaguely resembles it with remnants of capitalism.

So Twitter’s algorithm(For the record Youtube routinely thinks i would love to watch some discount Sargon of Akkad or whatever people) suggested some people to Eric Trump and he decided to accuse it of being the deep state agenda, One of the people he accused of being part of it responds here

@Shirani  
Yep, taking the marxist doxa as an incontestable dogma seems as harmful to me as rejecting it outright.
 
Unsustainable in the long term as the current capitalist model might be, there’s no telling what kind of paradigm shift will take place in the future to usher its replacement or when — or whether it’ll be a step up or not —, only speculations on what it could be.

@Commune  
Or they realize that Marx is wrong in his conclusion and think a different outcome will happen. Marx was a product of his time, and therefore just as fallible in his conclusions as anyone.

Leftoids: I agree with Marx’s analysis but I disagree with his conclusions
 
Me:
 
Marx’s analysis will lead to the conclusion that Capitalism is a unstable, unfixable system no matter what and those who say otherwise are revisionists and/or opportunists

I honestly do not like anonymous sources. It’s too vague and easily to fake out.
 
If I had a news site of my own with thousands of viewers and I used one of my articles to have “anonymous sources”, what can the general populous do in order to prove whether the data I had was incorrect?
 
They’d have to do the research on their own, which let it be reminded that no ordinary person can do. It requires a lot of money, a lot of time and a lot of energy. If the data came from a research that has never been done before or maybe has been done many years back, this would be the case.
 
Anonymous sources is a bit like religion. You put faith into something that you can never prove yourself.
 
I’m not asking for names of people. Places and organizations are good enough. There’s no way these kinds of research is done by a single person. It would take a team of dedicated workers to do so.
 

 
EDIT:  
True to my own personal opinion, I don’t like putting blind trust into anything. It doesn’t matter what the people behind it say.
 
“Oh, the media does background checks” or “Oh, the politicians did the experiment through someone else”.
 
Like, how can I trust this? How can I trust what anyone says like this? How can I trust that the media actually did background checks, or the politicians fund the experiment themselves? There’s no physical proof and no way I can see it. I wouldn’t believe about dinosaurs if it weren’t for the fact that their fossils existed.
 
I live under a constant state of distrust. And I like it.

@Background Pony #9164  
Let me put it as bluntly as I can. We have been the pillar of European protection for the last 70 years. While they have not lived up to the NATO agreement of having at least 2-3% of their GDP allocated towards their military so they could help with the burden since we agreed to put them under our protection. Did they live up to their part of the agreements? OH no They simply skimped out because they knew the U.S. would protect them. So they used that money to build up welfare states that are now accumulating a shit ton of debt. What do we have to show for It? Nothing but complaining and a shit ton of hostility. That is a shit ton of ungratefulness for keeping them comfy under the threat of threat of the USSR And it’s successor state the Russian Federation. So don’t go pulling this bullcrap and saying we shouldn’t have any say over what we do with NATO and the U.N.

@Cyborg_pony  

I get the impression you don’t know how anonymous sources work. You do realize that many of the news organizations using them will actually verify what they’ve learned with other sources as well, right? Or that many of these anonymous sources aren’t actually unknown, shadowy figures in a darkened parking garage, but people the reporters know and are protecting the identities of? The fact that you don’t know who they are doesn’t automatically discredit them, or mean that no one did due diligence in regards to what they have to say.
 
 
@Cyborg_pony  

I wouldn’t recommend doing that. You’ll lose a lot of money that way.
 
 
@Cyborg_pony  

Which part? Are you talking about the time he sank America’s reputation with his idiotic posturing and bewildering rhetoric over what he thinks the US is owed? The time he sank America’s reputation by withdrawing from a landmark environmental agreement? The time he sank America’s reputation by ignoring the warnings from every other major country on Earth (and the Pope) over decisions that further destabilized parts of the world? Or maybe the you’re thinking of the time his ambassador sank our reputation by taking a chapter from the Trump book of bullying and none too subtlely threatening our allies with retribution for commenting on what he did?
 
 
@Cyborg_pony  

The fact that the press has not brown tongued their way into Trump’s good graces like some senators, congressmen and members of his administration I could name is not due to them wanting or needing to make him look bad. If accurate reporting gives that impression, it’s probably the fault of the subject, not the medium.
 
Also, I sincerely doubt they run any story phoned in by a gravelly voiced tipster in a pay phone.
 
 
@Cyborg_pony  

There’s also a third option. The stories are all true, and Trump is as big an idiot as the many stories about him indicate.

So a lot of you remember the term ‘fake news’ being used almost constantly ever since the 2016 US Presidential election, every doesn’t like fake news stories, but there will be an anti-fake news law… in France.

@Cyborg_pony  
You probably think the President of the world’s most dangerous country would have the maturity of at least an adult

@Cyborg_pony  
Okay. So if he planted the story and is also gettting defensive about it, does he just care about the attention, and not about how stupid it makes him look?

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
Well, you have to rememeber Trump’s character.
 
He’s a sensationalist. He loves trashtalking. Remember is WWE stuff.
 
Bannon also hate Kushner more then Trump, and he’s also not an insider and it’s up to date on everything Trump did. When he refers to money laundering, he’s talking about Manaford and Podesta which are being looked in to.
 
If I knew the media would publish anything bad said about me, I’d certainly want to make them look as dumb as possible
 
knowing how they want and need to portrait the president as an incompetent boob, if anyone came to them with anything stories like that and they ran it without question, is certainly makes them look bad in the journalism department. Also, don’t you think it’s odd they move from ruthless dictator to a moron?
 
 
With how they’ve been of late, I take everything they said with a grain of salt. So they’re either fake stories, or Trump might be playing the biggest troll on the media.
 
Hey, Maybe we’ll find out Monday at 5:00pm. He also could of said that as well, knowing it would rustles their jimmies as it so did.

@neutralgrey  
Yes.

@Cyborg_pony  
It isn’t exactly that Trump has some intricate understanding of foreign politics or that he follows well established etiquette. It’s just he has the knack to be so bullheadedly blunt as to force the previously uncertain flip flopping into some kind of resolution, regardless what its potential effects are.
 
I wouldn’t say that it makes Trump dumb, but it does make him an utter embarrasment if you hold the highest office of government in some kind of awe or prestige. A President who shitposts against a dictator of another country on Twitter comparing each others nukes is beyond parody; the media doesn’t need to add anything other than allow that reality to speak for itself.

@Mike  
Is that Chris Christie in the background?

@Cyborg_pony  
Well, a lot of the people he quoted definitely aren’t anonymous, and I don’t think Steve Bannon’s disputed anything yet. And if it’s false and Trump started it, how does acting offended and threatening to sue make the media look stupid?

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
To make the mainstream media look bad. Obviously.
 
If it is him, it kind of shows they don’t care about actual honesty in journalism and will just post anything that makes him look bad.
 
If you say articles saying “Anonymous source in white house says Obama is a manchild” How likely are you to believe those stories.
 
He does call them fake news which pisses them off pretty bad, maybe for a very good reason.
 
Really think about it.
 
Who’s interest would it fit better to post stories under an anonymous source: The media reporting it, or the person they’re using the information to look bad.
 
I mean let’s face it: TYT had a six minute video talking about his penis, because of trashtalking. How is that in any way journalism?
 
He makes them look foolish by responding, faceless nobody’s supposed stories their obsessions with making him look bad.
 
I’m not saying 4-D chess, but I’d wager Trump is a lot smarter then people are willing to give credit for.
 
Look what happened with the U.N.
 
Laid it down pretty clear for’em he did.

@Cyborg_pony  
Why would Trump start a rumor and then immediately try to quash it?

I’m just going to throw this out there:
 
How do you know the people that these reporters are talking to are even real? No audio, no name, no proof. Just a rag on “Trump’s dumbs!” it really just makes them look bad doing it.
 
Think about it. What if fox news ever done an article about some anonymous source saying “Obama acts like a spoiled brat when he doesn’t get what he wants” “Obama doesn’t know basic math” would you believe them?
 
How do you know the “sources” aren’t a troll or even Trump himself knowing they’re print anything negative they say knowing foolish people that hate him will eat it up?
 
Would CNN back during his presidency post just things from unverified sources?
 
I dunno. It’d be pretty funny if it turns out everything said about him, was from him. That would certainly be a lot of egg on people’s face for believing it without knowledge of who is this anonymous source.

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
The courts will probably have to deal with some law suits over it, but nothing i saw really countered other stories of his childish stupidity bugging his staff, so i am inclined to belive the book over trump or anyone scared of loosing their job,

@Thanotos Omega  
You can tell that just by looking at him and listening to him.

@Thanotos Omega  
More anonymous sources from a CNN article I take it?

@Thanotos Omega  
Well, we only have the reporter in question’s word for a lot of that. I don’t doubt there’s more than a core of truth to it, but that doesn’t mean he’s not a tabloid artist prone to embellishment.