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Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 24920

Dragonpone
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@Dragonpone
I don’t see others respecting Twilight even when she’s one.
I’m aware, I noted as much. That’s the issue, Alicorns are positioned as much more important and revered in-universe within G4, until Twilight becomes one and it has to vary because it would get really old if every time Twilight went somewhere or met someone new ponies had to comment on her wings and treat her with reverence. (And even she is given the right to royalty along with her wings).
Also, surely you respect Spike’s wisdom, he’s not the new lord for nothing.
I guess how you take that Spike line is up to interpretation.
If you take it as a bit of foreshadowing for future Sunny development, it’s a hint at a future ascension.
I always read it as a tongue-in-cheek reference to how Spike would’ve known Alicorns in his own time - Spike sees an Alicorn belting out speeches about friendship and he’s like: “Yup, that’s a Princess”
That line particularly reads to me as a joke because the G4-style “Princess is the top of the pyramid because Disney ruined Queens” logic doesn’t even apply anymore, two of Sunny’s friends are Princesses and they sure as hell aren’t leading yet.

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Background Pony #A781
a character that would fit perfectly into G5 is Doctor Whooves, he’s a time traveler so it’s strange that he hasn’t appeared yet

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Background Pony #DE76
This is Sunny’s greatest strength, and had been of great help to her in her encounter with Opaline, as she does not consider herself a leader - which the writers in MYM may have gone too extreme on by letting her become too inactive , but in TYT we see that she acts more like a leader for her friends and others in times of need. For her, alicorn powers are for helping, not ruling, and that means her destiny is that she will one day become a princess - not by ruling, but by setting an example to inspire everyone with friendship, unity and hope. She doesn’t need power to become a princess.
What makes it easier for Sunny is that the alicorns may have become mythical figures for the G5 ponies which means that they have forgotten the importance of the alicorns - magical super beings - and therefore they do not know why it was natural for ponies to submit to the alicorns . We saw that ponies still can’t ignore their instincts when they meet real alicorns, which makes them respect them - or fear them, recognizing their strength. Ponies are herd animals, which instinctively seek out the strongest who are designated as leaders. So far we see that the G5 ponies do not understand their instincts.
By focusing on helping, and then just being available, Sunny gives ponies the freedom to choose for themselves what they want, the last thing she wants to do is push them. The G4 ponies lived in a dangerous world with magical supervillains, dangerous magic, monsters and hostile powers which means that these must therefore have the alicorns as leaders in such a world. This world does not exist in G5. We haven’t seen a single monster so far - which has completely disappeared, one of the biggest unanswered mysteries of G5. For Sunny, that means she could help out in a much peaceful world, with the clear exception of Opaline who proved the thesis that only an alicorn can stop an alicorn.
It is possible that the moment Sunny gets the princess title will be when G5 ends, because she will have resurrected the tradition, but in her own way. TYT episodes about Sunny and her parents showed us that there are secrets that are yet to be revealed.
Let’s see how alicorns arise; it happens with two methods; ascension and birth. Twilight became an alicorn not only for her magical feats, but also for her actions as part of the Mane 6 and even before she was born, her fate was predetermined. Fluffy Heart was born to an alicorn mother, which proved that the alicorn powers could be genetic, but it could be because Cadence’s magical talent was particularly strong. In all known cases, alicorns were foretold as if their fates were sealed - which means that magic, the ponies’ collective magic, is essential to would-be alicorns.
It could mean that Sunny, like Twilight, was born to become an alicorn, and that even as a filly she had the ability to ascend and become an alicorn. We’ve seen that other ponies with a clear exception like Cozy Glow whose background is a mystery, don’t become alicorns through an overdose of magic - Pinkie at the end of G4 was the best example, these have to be “accepted” by the mysterious magic.
So Sunny’s fate is already decided from the beginning, especially by being the Element of Hope.

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I like Sunny because she was more “down to earth” compared to Twilight. Her being an alicorn was already kinda “eh” imo, but her suddenly becoming the sole ruler of the land would feel like jumping the shark, for lack of a better term
also why are we wanting other ponies to be princesses instead of the two literal princesses

Pony Discussion » MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread » Post 24912

Dragonpone
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I like what G5 has been doing so far in regards to how the general citizens treat Alicorns - as something neat, flashy, and kind of noteworthy, but that’s about as far as it goes. And why shouldn’t it? This isn’t FiM where everyone is used to the idea of immortal Alicorns hanging around, being their leaders. No one, not even Sunny, has any context for what an Alicorn is really supposed to do.
I appreciate that it helps avoid the problem where new characters only seem to recognize Twilight’s status as Princess and Alicorn sometimes. I like that Sunny mostly treats it as a mode to save ponies. Sunny doesn’t think of herself as being the nation’s leader just because she’s an Alicorn because why should she be?
tl;dr I don’t want Sunny to be ruler of Equestria

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Background Pony #0FC6
Technically Sunny might be considered co-leader of Maretime Bay along with Hitch? Even the town is more community driven, it’s usually Sunny or Hitch who drives things forward.

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CloudMistDragon
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Misty Shadow
@Icicle Niceicle 1517
I’m not begging and pleading for it to happen or anything, I’d be totally fine if a pony besides Misty became the next queen of Zephyr Heights. I just think it would be cool.
Also, HOLY CELESTIA. I swear I didn’t plan this…
Yeah, check out the lyrics from this very recently leaked TYT song sung by Pipp, Zipp, and Misty if you don’t mind spoilers…
And if your family can be the one you choose
I choose you, yeah, I choose you

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Cosmas-the-Explorer
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Sunny seems like she would objectively be the best canidate for princess. She has the leaderly charismatic atrribute about her and seems like she would do anything for her people.
At least from what little Ive seen of her.
Oh and she’s an alicorn and the literal uniter of Equestria.

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river mines

Misty is incredible but her as queen would be a disaster, she just came out of the last hell, imagine having to deal with the pressure of being the successor of an entire nation? I think the most likely thing would be for Apha and Haven to have a new child.
but that’s a G4 error, not a G5 error

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Cause friends are family!
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This would technically be unpopular opinion given what some call the and in the least offensive way I can put it, the oversaturation of coloured protagonists. Misty has gotten way too much attention and of all comic characters to put into animation which they never do at all until recently, they picked Violette. Not Vorak, not those chimeric templars, not even the decent Radiant Hope, or the other canon not-Zecora zebras, but Violette.

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CloudMistDragon
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Misty Shadow
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Just stepsister. A half-sister is a sister who was born to one blood parent of yours. A stepsister is a sister who came into your family by the marriage of a parent of hers with one of your parents, that would be Misty with her having no blood relation to Haven at all. If they go for that, it would make sense. Misty’s already very popular, so making her a princess and then the ruler of Zephyr Heights would be logical steps to boost her popularity even further.

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