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MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread

GoodVibesGorgeous
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I hope we get a picture of Opaline’s toy soon so we can finally confirm she’s the Shadowy Alicorn (it’s obvious she is, but an official confirmation still is good). I want to edit the G5 Cast page in MLP Wiki, but it’s so, so, so long and I don’t want to put false information.
Background Pony #525F
if that tapestry is older then the mane 5, i wonder who foretold them?
An alicorn.
We have seen in G4 that the alicorns have a limited ability to predict the future, Celestia knew about the Mane 6 before their time and thus looked for the “chosen one” who would become the element of magic, and it was before the IDW comic when she met the adult Twilight. But we know that this ability has serious limitations as when Tirek first appeared, and that they could produce little other than brief clear visions of what the future will bring. It may be related to the mysterious dimension where Twilight ascended to become an alicorn, where she met Celestia who showed her the life that had led to this moment.
The blanket is definitely magical, it seems to glow with alicorn magic, so it may have been made by an alicorn who split it into three and hid two of them, while the third was given to Argyle’s family. We know that the team behind TYT likes to exaggerate a bit, so “ten generations” cannot be taken literally, as Argyle may have accidentally found the blanket. And we know from the movie that for some reason Argyle had obtained an intact feather from Twilight herself, and drawings of the same alicorn. It could suggest that there is a direct connection between Twilight and Sunny’s family line.
This then brings up several questions; it is possible that Twilight had seen the Mane 5 and made the blanket which she then split into three, hiding them for them to be found. We don’t know if she foresaw Equestria’s collapse which seems to have happened three to four generations before the movie, but she may have seen her personal successor, whom she may have sought for centuries, will one day take her place.
We know that the lighthouse was supposed to house the Unity Crystals, but they never got there, could that mean that Twilight had this mechanism made? It could mean that she simply did not foresee the lighthouse’s fate or what will happen, but she knows that it will be Sunny and her friends’ home.
It explains why Argyle was enigmatic in the movie, he knew that his daughter will become an alicorn and bring back the magic. So he probably dies happy regardless of the circumstances of his death, knowing that he couldn’t have been more proud.
And then that brings us to the last question; Twilight had made the Unity Crystals, did it mean that these were “programmed” to recognize Sunny? Not likely, they were together physically first. They reacted to her rhetoric about friendship and reconciliation, so there is obviously an intelligence here - but Sunny may have been the object of their focus already beforehand. They were simply waiting for her, she was in truth the only one who could unite the crystals and return the magic to the world.
The Mane 5 don’t know it - but the adventures will now begin in earnest, as they have a legacy from the Age of Legends to live up to.
Background Pony #525F
Did today’s TYT more or less confirm that Argyle is dead?
It was confirmed when his glasses were shown in the movie, and it was the biggest disappointment for the fans who had appreciated him as a good father figure for Sunny. The G5 team has been tactful about his passing, but what TYT has shown has revealed that he still played a role even after his death. He just knew that Sunny will find the projector and one part of the blanket, and his locket that had Twilight’s cutie mark, made it clear that there are unknown sides to him.
It is possible that he came to Maretime Bay after Sunny’s birth because he knew it would be where her future would take place. And that may be where he found the mechanism meant for the Unity Crystals, which made it dawn on him what the blanket meant; that magic will return - and that her daughter was destined for a very important role for the Ponykind. We know that Argyle either doesn’t know how the magic disappeared or how Equestria collapsed, but he may have had his suspicions.
He had promised his daughter that they will find out what happened, but he died without being able to fulfill his promises. At least we know he dies happy, because he knows a better future for the ponies is guaranteed with his daughter. Knowing his daughter’s fate from the very beginning, he devoted his life to making her childhood as happy as possible, teaching her about the past when the ponies were united and happy, and shaping the ideals that Sunny devoted herself to.
Just like with Celestia and Twilight in the G4.
Background Pony #525F
The matter of the throne in Zephyr Heights - which may have been a place of residence for Twilight at the end of her reign just before the collapse - makes it clear, along with the episode in Bridlewood, that only an alicorn could bury these parts of the blanket. The throne may indicate that the alicorn magic was not gone in contrast to the rest of the magic during all the time the ponies were without magic.
From the movie we have learned that Equestria’s collapse had not happened “that long ago”, the state of the airship station dispelled all theories about a long time between the G4 ponies and the beginning of G5. Everything points to 100 to 200 years.
From the IDW comics we have learned from Izzy that more than a century had passed since Canterlot was abandoned, again we arrive at between 100 and 200 years.
The MYM special had revealed that the dragons were last seen several generations ago, suggesting that the ponies remembered them from the aftermath of Equestria’s collapse. Here up to 200 years, as a generation is usually between 20 and 40 years. For the humans 30 years, the ponies may have less or longer generation time, we just don’t know.
In the TYT it has emerged that a prophecy was predicted “ten generations ago”, between 200 and 400 years. But there are many indications that this happened well in advance of Equestria’s collapse, not least because the lighthouse had a mechanism meant for the Unity Crystals.
Then it boils down to the time of Equestria’s collapse being roughly 150 to 200 years before Sunny’s birth. Most likely 200 years.
As Queen Haven said “centuries” based on her knowledge of the history of the interior of her palace and Zephyr Heights seemed to have been massively developed in less than a couple of centuries, that could mean that Twilight sat on the throne as little as a couple of centuries before the start of the G5. The old throne looked like it was meant for an alicorn.
That means there were four generations between Equestria’s collapse and the return of magic.
And since we know that Discord can use smartphones at the same time that TYT has revealed that the technological gap between pony tribes is not as big as thought, it must mean that the G5 world has arisen during Twilight’s reign, maybe she was the one who invented the first the smartphone. This could mean that Twilight could have become a G5 pony, we had received indications of this from the work on the movie.
Twilight knew about Sunny. She knows a new alicorn will arise. But the details on the blanket suggest that she simply did not see the indications about Sunny and her friends, as the old lighthouse from the posters is shown. She possibly knows that it can happen after her disappearance, although it is obvious that the blanket was made with a purpose that is still not revealed. She knows what family lineage Sunny will be born into. That might explain how Argyle got the feather from her, it might have been a family heirloom.
So when Twilight experienced the darkest moment when Equestria came under attack by The Big Bad who was so strong that Discord was traumatized and that no magic could stand against the attacker, at least she knew there was hope when she broke open the Unity Crystals and shut off the magic from the world.
So we can only hope that The Big Bad doesn’t know about this…
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Whoever (Or whomever) made that tapestry, must’ve been Nostradamus or something cause how would they know that an orange earth pony, a blue unicorn, a yellow earth pony and two pegasi with one white and one purple would be the ones to restore the crystals and bring harmony? Must be some extremely powerful magic to be able to see into the future.
Also, hi Argyle, long time no see.
Background Pony #DAC6
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He is not. Some people just won’t accept that he is gone. We will never seen him alive again. The only thing possible with him is flashbacks. The movie staff confirmed it, the movie director confirmed it, even Imalou confirmed it but if Sunny doesn’t say “My dad is dead”, people will still think that he is out there going on an important quest or something.
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