MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread
TOMNICE 
Hungarian G1 pony fan
It shows that the Mane Six weren’t perfect and didn’t always make the best decisions. It makes them feel more real. I am tired of kid media always making flawless characters who only smiles and nods. I approve of a more realistic approach to it.
No one said they were supposed to be fawless. I am just expecting them not to be a bunch dumbasses who cannot think straight.
Mikey 
Moderator
Pone of Astronomy
The problem is that Twilight wouldn’t just seal all magic in physical objects. It makes no goddamn sense. Did the writers forget what wendigos are???
Mikey
Moderator
Pone of Astronomy
@Background Pony #26F9
They just went away due to the nature of things, I doubt they went extinct or anything.
They just went away due to the nature of things, I doubt they went extinct or anything.
DarkObsidian 
Smiling Panzerfuchs 2.0
Okay, now I’ve read the comic as well. Essentially, you can already find the main scenes here on the site. There is not much missing and you get the whole picture together. And even if I’m not sure yet how far this plot will make it into the show, I still have to say two things about it:
1.) Discord is not completely wrong with his opinion. But the way he acts is once again typical of him. He says one thing, does another. And vice versa. I have the feeling he believes to be in the right as always. But it also shows an incredible mistrust on Discord’s part in the ponies’ ability to keep Friendship and Harmony going. And as far as that goes, he’s not wrong.
2.) I don’t think Twilight is acting out of character by creating the Unity Crystals. We simply know too little about the crisis that was going on at the time. In Discord’s words, “Then truely things happened, much which is too frightful to describe. Things in Equestia became even more divided.“
Also missing is the entire part explaining why the three crystals were eventually separated. So there’s not really anything to spoil here. Also, a certain character (Shadowy Alicorn) is only briefly hinted at. You can already guess who that is. Not only because of the silhouette, but also the demeanor. But what is REALLY going on with the Great Pony Tribe War 14-18 TA (Twilight’s ascension) before the creation of the crystals and afterwards is not explained. So everything is again as before only pure speculation.
It looks like Twilight’s reign definitely lasted for some time. And I can’t imagine that she didn’t inform the leaders of the other races beforehand, or that she didn’t get permission from them to create the crystals. If it is, THEN this is really a very stupid writing. But we are not yet so far to be able to say that with certainty. If we will ever get certainty about it. The show seems to love its loose ends, cough, cough. ;-)
DarkObsidian
Smiling Panzerfuchs 2.0
Eeyup. I think I’ll write my own timeline for future fanfics. One that is 99% canon and tries to tie up the loose ends that weren’t completely eliminated by retcon. I wonder how many years I’ll need to do that? ;-D
Background Pony #E026
Is it OK to upload pages of the comic that came out today? I mean, it should be fine since it’s been officially released.
TheQuietMan
House of the Arcana
@DarkObsidian
Discord has lost faith, but did he lost hope? And as a lot of people said, it’s possible he isn’t spilling all the beans. More will come. Also fun fact, someone pointed it out, there is in fact another Disney character cameo in this comic. I’ll put up the image soon.
Discord has lost faith, but did he lost hope? And as a lot of people said, it’s possible he isn’t spilling all the beans. More will come. Also fun fact, someone pointed it out, there is in fact another Disney character cameo in this comic. I’ll put up the image soon.
Background Pony #1A6D
@DarkObsidian
Depends, though likely 3-7 years.
Depends, though likely 3-7 years.
@Phoenixflambe
He may have a reason for not spilling the beans.
My gut tells me that the shadowy alicorn is impersonating discord and he actually died.
My brain tells me that he may be hypnotized by the shadow alicorn.
He may have a reason for not spilling the beans.
My gut tells me that the shadowy alicorn is impersonating discord and he actually died.
My brain tells me that he may be hypnotized by the shadow alicorn.
TheQuietMan
House of the Arcana
@Background Pony #1A6D
Or she just took the opportunity of the unrest and nothing else and became their new empress
Or she just took the opportunity of the unrest and nothing else and became their new empress
Icicle Niceicle 1517 
Ocs,Boops,Tickles&Memes
@Background Pony #E026
no, the site rules say you can’t upload full pages of the comics unless said pages have been publicly released for free (EG like a preview)
no, the site rules say you can’t upload full pages of the comics unless said pages have been publicly released for free (EG like a preview)
DarkObsidian
Smiling Panzerfuchs 2.0
Hmm, if you ask me, I’m pretty sure Discord didn’t put all his cards on the table, nor did he lose anything. Faith, okay. Hope, however, certainly not. He will try to manipulate Sunny and the others in the same way he did with the Mane 6. But the real question is: how likely is it that this won’t backfire again? We still remember his “tiniest bubu”, right? ;-)
Eeyup. I guess so too. ^^
Background Pony #E026
Sorry. I thought it would be OK, since the comic came out today.
Icicle Niceicle 1517
Ocs,Boops,Tickles&Memes
@Background Pony #E026
Yeah with the comics it’s best to just upload a few panels of it and not the whole page.
Yeah with the comics it’s best to just upload a few panels of it and not the whole page.
It’s the same reason why we can’t upload full episodes of the show here. We don’t Habros legal team on our ass :p
Background Pony #35C2
Some people can’t take racism being a topic again, can they? They might realize someday that that not everything goes the way we want.
fredsworth
@DarkObsidian
That’s actually a good point. Why are we taking Discord at his word, anyway?
That’s actually a good point. Why are we taking Discord at his word, anyway?
Background Pony #D8B2
Okay, now I’ve read the comic as well. Essentially, you can already find the main scenes here on the site. There is not much missing and you get the whole picture together. And even if I’m not sure yet how far this plot will make it into the show, I still have to say two things about it:1.) Discord is not completely wrong with his opinion. But the way he acts is once again typical of him. He says one thing, does another. And vice versa. I have the feeling he believes to be in the right as always. But it also shows an incredible mistrust on Discord’s part in the ponies’ ability to keep Friendship and Harmony going. And as far as that goes, he’s not wrong.2.) I don’t think Twilight is acting out of character by creating the Unity Crystals. We simply know too little about the crisis that was going on at the time. In Discord’s words, “Then truely things happened, much which is too frightful to describe. Things in Equestia became even more divided.“Also missing is the entire part explaining why the three crystals were eventually separated. So there’s not really anything to spoil here. Also, a certain character (Shadowy Alicorn) is only briefly hinted at. You can already guess who that is. Not only because of the silhouette, but also the demeanor. But what is REALLY going on with the Great Pony Tribe War 14-18 TA (Twilight’s ascension) before the creation of the crystals and afterwards is not explained. So everything is again as before only pure speculation.It looks like Twilight’s reign definitely lasted for some time. And I can’t imagine that she didn’t inform the leaders of the other races beforehand, or that she didn’t get permission from them to create the crystals. If it is, THEN this is really a very stupid writing. But we are not yet so far to be able to say that with certainty. If we will ever get certainty about it. The show seems to love its loose ends, cough, cough. ;-)
I think it’s not all the magic in the whole world, just the pony magic, Discord may have been wrong - and he is also associated with the pony magic itself by being partly pony, and can not use his chaos magic as a result. It is certain that Twilight had informed the other world leaders - and since many centuries have passed without them reacting, it may mean that only the ponies were affected.
“Great Pony Tribe War 14-18 TA”? Are these facts? Also, it seems that there were external factors behind the unrest that had occurred among the ponies, and then tried to take advantage of this, only to be stopped by the Mane 6 and the other heroes. It is possible that Twilight even had to use military force to bring order to the ponies, just as others had done before her. But here it seems that this happened because the magic had gotten out of control, with the same storm clouds as in MYM.
In the end, the Mane 6 won, but the damage was done, they had realized that the emotional instability in the pony magic has become so strong, that it must be prevented. The non-ponies that may have entered into a loose world order with Equestria will undoubtedly put the Mane 6 under strong pressure, along with large parts of the Ponykind who only want peace and security. Twilight may have tried to remove the problem only to realize how profound it will be when dealing with the very essence of the Ponykind. Then this had to be sealed away, with a kind of “dam”, and together with her friends she took the magic from the ponies.
What happened was that the focal points of the magic of the ponies, had been moved and united into a single focal point - the Unity Crystals. Thus, all magic became subject to a collective. The Unity Crystals can act not only as a door, but also a dam where it is possible to counteract the harmful effects. It was not the best solution, and the spell that was probably Twilight’s masterpiece in her life was an emergency solution. But the Mane 6 had no choice, for this surpassed all they had encountered.
It was not a good ending, but it is the writers behind G4 who must be blamed for making such a scenario possible, especially by making the magic very fragile, erratic and far too easy to manipulate as when Cozy wants to remove all magic. There are underlying tendencies towards anti-magic where the magic is denied by fear, and this had repeatedly emerged, most recently in S10. A “mature” magical world was deliberately made as unrealistic as possible.
The G5 will thus be about repairing the pony magic and making it safe again to continue the course of civilization for better or worse. Although Mane 5 would like to continue to have magic, Zipp is skeptical about whether this can be justified in the face of possible disasters, and Sunny in mind may have thought that it is a bit reminiscent of coercion aimed at the ponies. Like Mane 6, they need to think about their people and their world in relation to magic.
A human being will automatically give up magic if it is not possible to reconcile with human nature. Star Wars with the emotional division of the Force comes to mind, everyone saw what the consequences of this were in the SW universe with constant battle without stopping in the millennium after the millennium, the “light” against the “darkness”. In MLP, on the other hand, it is a question of having, with the risk of doom, or not having and surviving.
The magic needs to be fixed. There is no other way out.
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