MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread

I mean, Pipp had something of an arc of learning to do the whole social media thing in moderation.

@evocov
Eh, gonna have to agree to disagree on that - I don’t think G5 has really ever teased that everything will be answered or anything like that - I think that’s more a product of the fandom being up its own collective ass about G4 lore (ignoring the inconvenient truth that G4 contradicted its own lore at multiple junctures) and thinking that G5 absolutely has to answer about what happened that one time Twilight Sparkle stubbed her hoof and Luster Dawn just happened to be around to hear it, or why Applejack’s apple harvest was only 49 trees one year instead of 50.

@Jonny Manz

I mean, Pipp had something of an arc of learning to do the whole social media thing in moderation.

Wasn’t that like in only one episode and never brought up ever again considering how much of a social media junkie she still is.

I did forget she had more character development in the comics. I don’t generally read the comics so it slipped my mind.

That’s mostly pure guesswork and assumptions

• The release schedule, for one.
• Chapter One is pretty mediocre, and it’s still unclear what was going on in the climax.
• MYM takes until Chapter 2 episode 6 to find its footing
• Zipp’s detective work doesn’t actually contribute to defeating Opaline
• A lot of the solutions to problems are just sort of handed to the characters
• While The Root of All Evil is an effective vehicle for character moments, the plot just sort of meanders
• The Rainbow Locket is just sort of there, and Opaline’s defeat should have involved a proper Chekhov’s Gun
• Secrets of Starlight shouldn’t have happened immediately after The Root of All Evil. The ending needed room to breathe.
• We still haven’t seen Comet in Season Two.

I don’t care about a difference of opinions, I care about your attitude

@river mines
The “Lore” may be an utter mess, but the characters themselves go a long way to keeping me invested in this gen. Despite the endless story direction problems and continuity errors, the voice actresses are all clearly doing their damndest to keep these characters fun and strong, with Pipp and Zipp being especially huge highlights. If G5’s got one huge positive to it’s predecessor, it’s that the cast and crew care just as much for the characters and want to see them work no matter how many problems Hasbro drags them into.

@DerpyFast
To throw a bone to 5’s mess of a lore, the Sun and Moon issue does seem to be rather easily explained as just Twilight and the m6 finding someway to automate the world in their absence. The whole “Unity Crystals are Conduits to the Tree of Harmony ‘Togetherness’ “ and stuff like the Automated Weather Factories have been consistently implying that Twilight saw the magical dark age coming and went to Fallout Equestria level planning and backup planning to ensure Equestria would survive far into the future. How she somehow successfully foresaw absolutely everything about Sunny and all is an annoying mystery though.

• Why is the magic so strong in G5? A G4 unicorn could not lift as much as a G5 unicorn. The lightest spells have more extensive consequences than usual.
• Where are all monsters from both G1 and G4?
• Why did Twilight have to disappear? There are many indications that her departure was not wanted by the ponies. The magic was still there after she was gone.

• I like most of the characters. They’re fun, full of life and I usually like watching the hijinks they get into. On a particular note, Posey is a character I feel G4 should have had. A recurring “mean” character who occasionally shows a kinder, more sympathetic side rather than just a one-shot jerk who’s never seen again after their episode. Also her butt-monkeyness is really funny.
• Genuine Earth Pony Magic, and not that vague “stronger and more durable than most ponies” stuff.
• I enjoy most of TYT’s songs, and often listen to them on youtube.
• I like that the world just “is” rather than being run by ponies. While ponies preparing for winter/fall, Pegasi being able to manipulate the weather, and the Princesses controlling the celestial bodies was really cool. I feel the world is more “natural” rather than being artificially run.
• While I wouldn’t say it was perfect, Root of Evil was an excellent finale for MYM. I liked how all of the mane six tried to contribute something to Opaline and they didn’t just keel over and let her take their cutie marks. (I mean, I have some issues with how Zipp and Pipp were handled but eh.)
• Most of the TYT episodes are genuinely amusing and funny. I still think they’d benefit more if they were 10 minutes long instead of 5, but I think they mostly make good with their limited time. I also like that the TYT art style allows for very amusing expressions.

1. TYT Sweep. I don’t like that it’s taking over all of G5 to the point that they’re erasing anything that doesn’t resemble it’s signature style, it’s even in the comics now and funny enough, they’re still holding on to what idw typically does, if albeit in the TYT style that makes every emotion feel artificial.
2. Wasted potential. Loads of them. I’m simply disappointed that whenever they seem to do something big, it’s instantly debunked. Sprout could’ve joined the mane 5 but if he did, he wouldn’t be the lovable jerk he is now and Misty would’ve been more an extra character. Comet looked liked he would’ve been the first 7th member. Nope! He’s just Maretime Bay’s tourist. Allura could’ve been as terrifying as Opaline was before her. Nope! Did absolutely nothing even when she does show up. Which makes me wonder like why is she supposedly a villain anyway? If she wanted to escape however she got to the Ridge in the first place, she could’ve ask nicely because she clearly isn’t interested in world domination, just wanting to go home, so like why be scary? She supposedly would be redeemed but when you’re practically doing nothing evil anyway then all she really needs is a psychiatrist. And there’s also using obvious previous gen ideas to build this new world but none of them are utilised. The ones that are selected are simply for convenience in being able to reuse the pony head. And only IDW is the only one doing it because unlike Hasbro, they don’t have an aversion to zebras. And regarding the shows, some characters I feel are underutilised, Hitch really is nothing more than a stepfather to Sparky when he could be both that and super cop. Super dad, super cop, all time guardian. Zipp seems to want to find out more of the past but we get none of it, if anything she’s becoming less interested in this sort of thing, Izzy, well she’s alright, she hasn’t been Pinkiefied which is a good thing, probably won’t last long though the longer it goes. And Sunny, she’s the biggest offender, the movie has no Misty, so she was pretty much the driving force for it. And it wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t for her parents discovery of her past. I supposed we imagined that Sunny was supposedly interested in finding out more about the past considering the first 2 issues of IDW because even if that was the intention back in the movie and MYM, they seem to have dropped that aspect. What’s worse is that for being the main character, she hardly gets any development beyond ironically, being The Alicorn. I know there’s an episode about that yet they’re proving the BG ponies in the Bay right, that’s really just who she became. And finally, yes Misty’s flaw is ironically her popularity and over usage, the moment she appears, she outshines the other members in comparison, if anything I feel she suffers from overdevelopment, Misty’s already great, she doesn’t need to be greater if it comes at the expense of others. I feel the writers just forgot that Sunny came first. And finally, I do feel one reason I like g4 was that it’s the adventure aspect it has. G5 has it to some degree but it’s not enough, idw is the only branch keeping that aspect with the 2 current storylines, Milkyway and even Black, White and Green. They can expand their horizons but choose not to. Sure comics now have to adhere to the TYT style strictly to the teeth but story wise it feels like a MYM season 2. Overall I just feel that compared to g4 which deteriorated with over-ambition, g5 could benefit from it. But nah, they want to play it safe. In any case, don’t commit if you can’t.

I think they want to avoid a repeat of “This character learned this lesson they are never allowed to exhibit this character flaw ever again!”