Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

Zincy

In Vino Veritas

I love when people go “rawr free market, competition, reeeeeee” and then recoil like a vampire from garlic when presented with the idea that generous pay and benefits would make complete sense within the market.

All because they’re afraid their favorite cheese burger will cost a little extra.

They rarely admit that it’s because they think that certain workers just deserve to be paid less in their eyes. So they’ll veil it in free-market side speak.

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Meanlucario

Time to get spooky

@Zincy
People like being rewarded, not threatened.

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Zincy

In Vino Veritas

The carrot is always more attractive than the stick.

You want talent? You market your business to attract talent. Pay, benefits, incentives, recruitment bonuses, and just good old-fashioned positive work environments.

Then you should invest in appropriately managing that talent, making sure that success is rewarded and failures learned from. Those are the basic keys to a successful business.

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The Smiling Pony

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Besides, pointing out a systemic problem with tipping doesn’t mean I won’t tip, it’s incredibly bad faith to suggest that(unless you really interpreted “don’t believe in tipping” as “I don’t tip”)

I think almost everyone that isn’t some libertarian or ancap realizes tipping is bullshit. And while I didn’t believe that applied to you, since as far as I’ve seen you actually do have human empathy, the language of “I don’t believe in tipping” often correlates with twitter/facebook/YT/etc. psychos going out of their way to not tip, both in the name of ancap fart-huffing and leninist dicksucking.

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Zaknel

Mods-Ezekiel 33:11

It is absolutely idiotic to compare between jobs as every job receives things that other jobs do not.

Oh, you mean like how waiters tend to get tipped in lieu of higher wages?

Are you saying there mught be a reason for that?

And right now, the reality is that hospitality and food are struggling hard because workers do not want to work for slave-wages and rely on tips/commissions. We are seeing a record number of restaurant closures. It’s not because of covid, or the “evil government and their regulations”, its because of staffing.

This isn’t a socialist perspective mind you, I am coming at this from a purely capitalistic perspective on this subject. And the market demands competition right now.

Yes, the market does demand competition right now. And if they wanna stay in business, they will find a solution. That’s what a competitive market does. It innovates and evolves.

@Zaknel
Workers aren’t businesses. Competitive work environments are bad because it slows down progress.

A competitive market has an incentive to pay its workers more when their industry turns a higher profit, and lower its prices when it can so ot can attract more business.

A not competitive market is literally just a monopoly, that has no incentive to give fairer wages or lower prices, and may even do the opposite. Why do you think that’s better?

@Zaknel
Maybe the issues is tips and not wages than. Tips are used and abuse by corporations to not even pay minimum wage.

What I have been saying is that we have to choose between tips in lieu of higher base wages and higher base wages with little or no tips. Not having it both ways.

@Meanlucario

I love when people go “rawr free market, competition, reeeeeee” and then recoil like a vampire from garlic when presented with the idea that generous pay and benefits would make complete sense within the market.

All because they’re afraid their favorite cheese burger will cost a little extra.

I really don’t like this. Particularly that last line. It makes it sound like it is the consumers’ duty to support a business and its workers by paying extra for it all. This is not how business works. At all.

It is the business’ duty (any business, not just restaurants) to sell a product that people want at a price that they can afford, while paying all of their bills. And if they cannot do that, then the industry will fail, and it is not the consumers’ fault.

They rarely admit that it’s because they think that certain workers just deserve to be paid less in their eyes. So they’ll veil it in free-market side speak.

The free market only pays what it can. I know sometimes that are underpaid workers, but the market isn’t completely filled to the brim with nothing but underpaid everywhere.

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Commune

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A competitive market has an incentive to pay its workers more when their industry turns a higher profit, and lower its prices when it can so ot can attract more business

That’s not how wages work, a competitive market for workers decreases wages just based of the principle of supply and demand(competition means higher supply than demand leading to lower wages etc.)

And companies making higher profit does not correlate with higher wages, in many cases the higher profit comes from lower wages

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Zincy

In Vino Veritas

I would argue very, very strongly against that last point. The market is absolutely filled with underpaid workers, and you can look no further than stagnant wage growth. It took one of the most unique events in the last 100 years to push wage growth up by a tick, and it is still well below what it should be when accounting for historical inflation. Wages have remained mostly flat for decades while top end earners are constantly on the upswing. Not only keeping under inflation values, but under valued by terms of pure market growth.

50 years ago a family could buy a house on one income. Now, even combined incomes are not enough for large sections of the population depending on their industry. That is not solely due to inflation, which seems to be the go-to response lately, and I swear to the gods if you say it is I will discount everything you say from this point onwards.

The “free market” has indeed found a way to adapt, at a terrible cost to the average worker. Your labor is worth far, far less now than it was 50 years ago. And yet the number of hours worked, and the number of people holding multiple jobs has increased.

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Dustcan

Dogs

Not sure why we, as a culture, decided that tipping was a thing we should do. But we did, and now here we are.

If you don’t like the idea of tipping in lieu of a full wage, then you should first try to get rid of the tipping in culture before demanding restaurants raise their prices to support hugher wages. Especially since high minimum wages already have a track record of increasing unemployment, and that will be oh so very true if implemented on tipped workers before tipping is already gone.

Adam Ruins Everything did a skit on the history of tipping. Prohibition saw restaurants losing a massive source of income, so they basically shunted the responsibility of paying their workers onto the customer. Even after Prohibition ended and restaurants saw their profits shoot straight back up with their alcohol sales, they “forgot” to start paying their workers again, so here we are today where customers pay for an employee’s labor instead of the employer.

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Zincy

In Vino Veritas

The 128th mass shooting has occurred in the one “first world” country where over 100 mass shootings can occur before March ends.

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NitroFury

Nitro Cat Bad!

@Zincy
I take it’s from that latest mass shooting in Nashville.

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Zincy

In Vino Veritas

Yep.

3 children, 3 adults, shooter was a 28yo female.

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NitroFury

Nitro Cat Bad!

@Zincy
And police manage to shoot and kill the female shooter.

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Hali the Emoji girl

Goth Cinnamon Roll

Will it’s not like there could be obvious and sensible laws put in place that could stop or reduce these mass shootings that our kind hearted elected officials can put in to place to protect people lives….guess we have to get use to the high probability that everytime we go someplace that we will be filled with bullets and put in black bags.

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SleepySteve

Apples and Pears

In Israel Bibi has authorized the creation of a “national guard” under the oversight of National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.

Those who know how much of an unpleasant human being Ben-Gvir is should be horrified.

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Background Pony #1F81

According to reports, the person behind the Nashville shooting was transgender (trans male) with leftist/socialist views, and the victims were part of a Christian school.

Right-wing politicians and the “anti-woke” crowd are already trying to use to add more fuel to the fire that trans people are mentally ill and a “danger” to society, and i feat this shooting is only going to make things worse for trans people.

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Beth

In digital purgatory

Well trans folk aren’t well tolorated in Tennessee, they’re even passing anti drag laws too.

Some dumb ass doctor kept pumping her with phycotropic drugs, even Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene said SSRIs where likely involved alongside illicit drug abuse and mental illness.

The man was unhinged and drugged out. This isn’t a trans thing, but societies treatment of trans is likely a factor.

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BlitztheDragon

No doubt the anti-trans fanatics are gonna try to make this their Reichstag fire.

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Beth

In digital purgatory

@BlitztheDragon
Maybe all the new anti trans and anti drag laws pulled someone’s support system out from under them.

They got involved with a doctor who tried up treat dysphoria with a bombardment of physch drugs to make this man accept being a women.

Not justifying no shooting, I just want to know the truth of what happened.

No self respecting trans person would hurt kids to support their cause. This man was whacked out of his mind, in a medical system that won’t allow him to exists. They’ll give him all the phycotropic drugs, but not the hormones and some basic respect.

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Background Pony #1F81

Apparently they already had this shooting planned out ahead of time, police reportedly found a manifesto along with blueprints of the school itself.

IDK how long they had this planned (or if the trans laws were the motive or not) but this was clearly pre-planned instead of just them suddenly deciding to shoot up a school.

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lonewolf

U mad?

@CaptainXtra
Should’ve known the Tik Tok thing was a screen so they could pass a bullshit law like that.

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Vivace

“ShimSham my GlimGlams”

@CaptainXtra
It better die in Congress.

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lonewolf

U mad?

Unfortunately according to one article I saw it’s been getting bipartisan support.

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Vivace

“ShimSham my GlimGlams”

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CaptainXtra

STOP KOSA!

@lonewolf
The main sponsor is indeed a Democrat.

It would be wise to get Moderate Republicans with actual braincells to oppose this.

Also I’m sure that VPN companies will be voicing their opposition eventually.

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AaronMk

Sky funeral

We really did miss out on seeing Uday and Qusay Hussein’s Twitter accounts didn’t we

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