Religion general
TheHappySpaceman
Sweet F.A.
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@Selaphiel
Guess if I were a Christian, I would probably be forced to switch hands or condemned from the church. (I’m a lefty.)
@Selaphiel
Guess if I were a Christian, I would probably be forced to switch hands or condemned from the church. (I’m a lefty.)
Commune
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“Hehe if god exists, then why is there so much suffering”
Because it’s our own damn fault, we chose to sin, not him
Because it’s our own damn fault, we chose to sin, not him
DarkObsidian
Smiling Panzerfuchs 2.0
The genesis of the left’s association with evil comes from the Book of Matthew. It writes that on the last Day of Judgment:
“He shall separate all nations one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats; and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left…then shall the king say unto them on his right hand, come, ye blessed of my father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world…then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.”
The result was a belief in the people, some of which continues to these day. In the Middle Ages it found its greatest extremes when left-handed women were burned as witches.
@Commune
With all due respect. This is bullshit. I am also in favor of acknowledging one’s own sins and living with them. That you learn from your mistakes. But which god creates an entire race of intelligent apes and then let them spread all over the world, only to send his son thousands of years later, who is executed immediately without much effect. Except that millions of people were slaughtered in the name of the Christian faith later.
I’m serious. Either God has given us too little love and compassion along the way, then his creation would be damn flawed, or there is no God and our actions are simply self-determined. I tend towards the latter. If anything, I prefer the old gods. At least they stood by their mistakes. All Abrahamic religions are just simply hypocritical.
“He shall separate all nations one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats; and he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left…then shall the king say unto them on his right hand, come, ye blessed of my father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world…then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.”
The result was a belief in the people, some of which continues to these day. In the Middle Ages it found its greatest extremes when left-handed women were burned as witches.
@Commune
With all due respect. This is bullshit. I am also in favor of acknowledging one’s own sins and living with them. That you learn from your mistakes. But which god creates an entire race of intelligent apes and then let them spread all over the world, only to send his son thousands of years later, who is executed immediately without much effect. Except that millions of people were slaughtered in the name of the Christian faith later.
I’m serious. Either God has given us too little love and compassion along the way, then his creation would be damn flawed, or there is no God and our actions are simply self-determined. I tend towards the latter. If anything, I prefer the old gods. At least they stood by their mistakes. All Abrahamic religions are just simply hypocritical.
Commune
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@DarkObsidian
Evil in the world doesn’t come from human nature but rather the nature of how property is structured in society
Before agriculture, we weren’t that violent
I mean, we still did kill each other, but humans also cooperate and feel sympathy for one another much better
Free Will is a bitch
Evil in the world doesn’t come from human nature but rather the nature of how property is structured in society
Before agriculture, we weren’t that violent
I mean, we still did kill each other, but humans also cooperate and feel sympathy for one another much better
Free Will is a bitch
DarkObsidian
That would have to be discussed. First, humanity was less numerous at that time, so the clash of larger groups was rarer, so no clash of interests, resources were more numerous, and so on. But mass graves from early times also show that violence has always been part of human nature. We’re nothing but apes. Even chimpanzees go to war. And they eat their dead.
Why am I mentioning this? Because people in extreme situations always tend to take extreme measures. It’s just a survival instinct. That is why the achievements of civilization and philosophy are so important. They show that humanity can evolve if it is given enough time to do so. You just have to learn to accept good and evil equally. I don’t mean to tolerate it. But not to try to cling to some kind of creator who takes the blame off you. After all, (the Abrahamic) God started out as a scapegoat.
Smiling Panzerfuchs 2.0
Before agriculture, we weren’t that violent.
That would have to be discussed. First, humanity was less numerous at that time, so the clash of larger groups was rarer, so no clash of interests, resources were more numerous, and so on. But mass graves from early times also show that violence has always been part of human nature. We’re nothing but apes. Even chimpanzees go to war. And they eat their dead.
Why am I mentioning this? Because people in extreme situations always tend to take extreme measures. It’s just a survival instinct. That is why the achievements of civilization and philosophy are so important. They show that humanity can evolve if it is given enough time to do so. You just have to learn to accept good and evil equally. I don’t mean to tolerate it. But not to try to cling to some kind of creator who takes the blame off you. After all, (the Abrahamic) God started out as a scapegoat.
Scrabbleman
[screams in German]
Human beings are, at its core, violent. We can also be called selfish, greedy and crazed.
But we have the ability of choice. The power to go against or for our own humanity. We can decide to do bad things, or do good things. That in itself is just amazing. We are not bound by our nature.
We are, dare I say it, evil. But the fact that we can choose to be good… Isn’t that just wonderful?
But we have the ability of choice. The power to go against or for our own humanity. We can decide to do bad things, or do good things. That in itself is just amazing. We are not bound by our nature.
We are, dare I say it, evil. But the fact that we can choose to be good… Isn’t that just wonderful?
ЅℰℒᎯℙℋℐℰℒ
Pomegranates :P
One good way to get everyone onboard with the whole apocalypse belief is to just called it “climate change”
Heh
Heh
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@Selaphiel
We won’t be the the first species to fuck ourselves out of the race.
We won’t be the the first species to fuck ourselves out of the race.
Commune
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@Scrabbleman
No, humanity isn’t selfish, the very basic building block of early societies was cooperation between its members
The hunter gatherer tribes were egalitarian
The problem is thinking of humanity as an individual but as a famous man once said, “we live in a society”
No, humanity isn’t selfish, the very basic building block of early societies was cooperation between its members
The hunter gatherer tribes were egalitarian
The problem is thinking of humanity as an individual but as a famous man once said, “we live in a society”
Scrabbleman
You mean, Joker from Batman?
[screams in German]
@Commune
That’s because early civilization was dependent on cooperation. Those who didn’t cooperate were cast out, and later on died. It was all for the sake of survival. People would commit cannibalism if it became a necessity.
Nowadays, that’s not entirely the case and thus, we get to explore the more fundamental aspects of humanity and their core values, their biology and how evolution has both provided advantages and disadvantages.
Also,
That’s because early civilization was dependent on cooperation. Those who didn’t cooperate were cast out, and later on died. It was all for the sake of survival. People would commit cannibalism if it became a necessity.
Nowadays, that’s not entirely the case and thus, we get to explore the more fundamental aspects of humanity and their core values, their biology and how evolution has both provided advantages and disadvantages.
Also,
as a famous man once said, “we live in a society”
You mean, Joker from Batman?
Zincy
In Vino Veritas
@Scrabbleman
Social ostracism is still alive and well, and has the same negative mental and health ramifications now as it did back in our hunter/gatherer days.
Perks of working with one of the foremost experts in the field of exclusion and ostracism.
Social ostracism is still alive and well, and has the same negative mental and health ramifications now as it did back in our hunter/gatherer days.
Perks of working with one of the foremost experts in the field of exclusion and ostracism.
Scrabbleman
[screams in German]
@Zincy
Neat. Did you watch the latest Kurzgesagt video about loneliness? What do you think about it?
Neat. Did you watch the latest Kurzgesagt video about loneliness? What do you think about it?
Scrabbleman
[screams in German]
@Zincy
I don’t have a TV, so I can’t do those :(
Part of the enjoyment of watching TV is how random it can be, so long if you don’t look at the schedule.
I don’t have a TV, so I can’t do those :(
Part of the enjoyment of watching TV is how random it can be, so long if you don’t look at the schedule.
Death2
YOU WILL BOW TO ME.
@Scrabbleman
Don’t ya just hate it when technology evolves and becomes much more convenient?
Don’t ya just hate it when technology evolves and becomes much more convenient?
Scrabbleman
[screams in German]
@Minshi Woods
Eh, convenience isn’t always a good thing, because someone like me always has a hard time deciding things.
I bet if I had only Netflix/Hulu/etc. during my childhood and not a TV channel like Fox Movies or CN, I’d probably be watching way less shows. Choosing is hard, so I let the network choose for me. If I don’t like it, I change channels and try again.
Eh, convenience isn’t always a good thing, because someone like me always has a hard time deciding things.
I bet if I had only Netflix/Hulu/etc. during my childhood and not a TV channel like Fox Movies or CN, I’d probably be watching way less shows. Choosing is hard, so I let the network choose for me. If I don’t like it, I change channels and try again.
Commune
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@Scrabbleman
Not really, altruism is a core part of humanity
Even Stirner, the famed egoist who was all “nice spooks nerd it’s all about the individual and self interest” had to concede with the union of egoists as, humans typically don’t like loneliness
Even the loneliest person desires some form of human connectivity
Not really, altruism is a core part of humanity
Even Stirner, the famed egoist who was all “nice spooks nerd it’s all about the individual and self interest” had to concede with the union of egoists as, humans typically don’t like loneliness
Even the loneliest person desires some form of human connectivity
TheHappySpaceman
Sweet F.A.
@Zincy
God works in mysterious ways, amirite?
Actually, I’m reminded of a line from “Dear God” by XTC:
Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!
God works in mysterious ways, amirite?
Actually, I’m reminded of a line from “Dear God” by XTC:
Did you make disease and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!
Zincy
In Vino Veritas
@TheHappySpaceman
I sort of laid into creationism a bit in my class the other day. Also antivax and homeopathy.
It was relevant to the discussion at hand.
I sort of laid into creationism a bit in my class the other day. Also antivax and homeopathy.
It was relevant to the discussion at hand.
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