Gun Discussion

Rifle refers to the barrel. If a gun with a rifled barrel fires a pistol round it’s still a rifle.

Apparently AK47’s are the most produced gun in existence.

It’s as if any major shooter game that excludes them only does so out of spite.

Also what are guns called that fire out both Rifle Bullets and Shotgun Shells, if those are actually real and not just something that Shooter Games pulled out of their ass.

Hi! Could anyone please show me pictures of Russian or Chinese green tracer rounds? Like, the tracer as they’re fired? It’s almost impossible for me to find out those tracer lights the Eastern block bullets leave; I just find Western ammo with red tracers like these:

Also, anyone here knows how many tracer ammunition colours are there? I’ve heard of red and green, and I think also a blue one, but so far I don’t know anything else.

Hi, I’m not entirely sure what you exactly mean (Like, I’m imagining you’re referring to some sort of awkward M-16+AA-12 Frankenstein kind of thing from a game that fires both rounds from a single drum magazine), but there are guns that can fire both shotgun rounds and rifle rounds; they’re called Combination guns, they’re often break-action and you have to manually load the shotgun shell and the rifled bullet after firing, which I’m not sure it’s the thing you’re asking for.

Aside from that, I think you can technically fire shotgun shells from rifled guns, as far as this Quora question and it’s replies implies.

Other than that, there are underbarrel extensions for M4s and M16s that are basically ancillary shotgun weapons, the M26 MASS is probably the closest I know to what you might be thinking, and there’s also others like the KAC Masterkey, which is like a Remington strapped under a rifle.

And well… There are slug rounds for shotguns, which might kinda look like regular bullets because unlike other shells this thing is a big, single bullet that smashes things. So I’m not sure if you might be talking about some gun that fires these.

So, it’s not technically unfeasible I think…

@FliegerFaustToP47
Fun fact: rifled shotguns exist. https://remingtonusaguns.com/product/remington-870-express-12-gauge-fully-rifled-deer-pump-shotgun/

Still, they are meant to fire slugs, not rifle ammo.

Tracer colour differentiation between NATO and Warsaw Pact countries was more due to the chemicals used to create the tracer rounds, with the former using strontium compounds and the latter using barium salts, hence the red and green tracer colours, respectively.

@FliegerFaustToP47
I just searched for “green tracer ammo” and found this:

There’s also this FPS Russia video: https://youtu.be/6dYX-h-5HDQ?t=238
And this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF3wbbcV_eo

What’s the point of tracer ammo? I assume it’s not to make them look like laser blasts?

Shot tracking, or tracing, if you will. It means that both the shooter and their fellow soldiers know where the bullets are going without having to rely upon either guesswork or playing telephone with one another or their commanding officers.

@Goku Black
You can see where your shots are going. It allows you to see how accurate you (or others) are. You can have a machine gun belt where every let’s say fifth round is a tracer.

It also allows you to “point out” targets to other people.

Emulating Star Wars is a valid use case too.

What are the Pistol and Shotgun equivalents to the AK47 Rifle?

As in being just as widespread and recognized.

@CaptainXtra
For pistols, I would say the Glock. Not sure about shotguns, though.

@CaptainXtra
Likely the 1911 Pistol.

@NitroFury
That, too.

@CaptainXtra
Pistols: Glock 17, M1911, Browning Hi-Power, Makarov (PM), Tokarev (TT-33)
Shotguns: Remington 870, Mossberg 500, Winchester Model 1897

Yeah I’ll second you on Browning Hi-Powers, since they were damn near everywhere, and an awful lot of guns crib from it.

@Ebalosus
Helps that 9mm is stupid common and Hi-Powers are stupid simple.

Also, FGC-9 V3 when?

Without JStark around, I don’t think there’ll be one distinct FGC-9 Mk.3. Having said that, the people working continuing the project are all focused on a similar objective: the buffer tube must go.

It’s not so much because they can then make it more compact (which would be a definite benefit), but because the buffer tube is the most difficult part to print correctly without issues. There are multiple different people working different ways to achieve this, with people either copying Mussy with a telescoping bolt, or using a single block with lead inserts to get the weight right, or bullpup designs that include the former.

As such, we’ll likely see 3-5 different FGC-9 successors, rather than the one we got last year.

Oh thank you so much, I was looking out for a video like the last one, thank you! And the image is good too.

Ah, thank you for the information, had no idea why they had different colours, but I assumed it was because of the composition.

Just a question, are those (And yellow) the only tracer colours out there?

Talking regionally, seems like everyone in my country identifies a pistol as a ‘Deagle’, a submachine gun as an ‘Mac Uzi’ (Lol), assault rifles as ‘Ak-47s’ or ‘FAL’ and shotguns as ‘Benelli’ or less-known as ‘Soberana’. Hope that helps.

(No kidding, was drawing a Hk-7 PDW yesterday and some old guy said ‘Oh, you’re drawing a Micro MacUzi! Cool’)

Yes, there are other colour tracers out there, because remember that they function similarly to fireworks, thus no reason you can’t have purple, blue or white tracers. As for their usage, I don’t think other colour see much use in the military due to economies-of-scale when it comes to ammunition production, but I could be wrong.

Oh okay, makes sense then, in that case I really want to see a picture of Rainbow Dash firing a M134 with rainbow tracers, lmao, would be awesome. But still, thank you for reply my question ^^.

(And well, I think I saw a M2 Bradley firing some blue tracer like thing, but it might be just an optical illusion of sorts.)
Edit, found it:

Wtf is wrong with Derpibooru messages

@FliegerFaustToP47
Yeah, that Bradley is actually firing practice tracers from its 25mm cannon.

Other than looking cooler, what advantage does a revolver have over a pistol?

@CaptainXtra
Fewer moving parts, which saves on maintenance costs.

And if built properly, are more reliable too.

@CaptainXtra
When using revolvers, cases are not deformed and not ejected automatically, so it’s easier to reload ammo. Semi-auto pistols can deform casings (google “Glock smile”), making it necessary to fix these deformations before reloading ammo.

Also, you don’t have to care if ammo is loaded really hot or really weak. The revolver cycles anyway. Meanwhile many semi-auto pistols will not cycle properly with unusual loads.