Background Pony #1D40
@Dustcan
Why docops marshals even need guns if they refuse to confront armed criminals? Give guns to SWAT only and leave regular cops with only tasers and pepper spray.
Why do
Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)
Mikey 
Moderator
Pone of Astronomy
I’m more in favor of background checks and restrictions and making everyone go through hoops than an all out ban.
Meanlucario 
Time to get spooky
@Mikey
Meaningful age limit and a strict training requirement would be a leap in the needed direction, though that would still require taking guns away from those who aren’t fit or refuses to do the training.
Meaningful age limit and a strict training requirement would be a leap in the needed direction, though that would still require taking guns away from those who aren’t fit or refuses to do the training.
Background Pony #D717
@Meanlucario
And make it a regular thing. Maybe have gun owners go through refresher courses and mental health checks at least twice a year.
And make it a regular thing. Maybe have gun owners go through refresher courses and mental health checks at least twice a year.
Meanlucario
Time to get spooky
@Background Pony #D717
I was thinking of a yearly test to make sure they are still fit to own a gun.
I was thinking of a yearly test to make sure they are still fit to own a gun.
lonewolf 
U mad?
Gomez said that she was only one of several parents at the school demanding that officers stop waiting around and go into the school. It was then that “federal marshals approached her and put her in handcuffs,” the Journal reports.The marshals told her she was being arrested for “intervening in an active investigation.” Gomez was able to convince local law enforcement to free her, but said she also saw a father pepper-sprayed, and another tackled and thrown to the ground by law enforcement as he tried to go to the school. His 10-year-old daughter was massacred in the slaughter.Once freed, Gomez moved away from the crowd, broke into a run, jumped a fence, and ran inside to rescue her children. “She sprinted out of the school with them,” the Journal reports.She lived by the way.We pay these people with our tax dollars, and all they do with it is cosplay as Master Chief, merc every black they see on sight, and then handcuff and/or pepper spray and/or tackle anyone who dares to tell them to do their job.
WHAT THE FUCK?
And yeah I heard the cops hesitated because he was wearing a vest. So take a damn head shot then or anywhere else the body isn’t protected.
And yeah I heard the cops hesitated because he was wearing a vest. So take a damn head shot then or anywhere else the body isn’t protected.
Background Pony #D717
@Meanlucario
Nah, give them more hoops to jump through. Better safe than sorry.
Nah, give them more hoops to jump through. Better safe than sorry.
Background Pony #6B50
@Meanlucario
It is estimated that their are 81.4 million gun owners in America. If a law is passed to confiscate these you would be criminalizing millions of Americans (as we saw in Connecticut most people won’t turn them in). You would need to then have the police pursue these people, arrest them, possibly kill them. These same people who were previously law abiding citizens.
It is estimated that their are 81.4 million gun owners in America. If a law is passed to confiscate these you would be criminalizing millions of Americans (as we saw in Connecticut most people won’t turn them in). You would need to then have the police pursue these people, arrest them, possibly kill them. These same people who were previously law abiding citizens.
When the “right and necessary” thing means criminalizing millions of people and then sending armed cops after them I think you need to rethink the position.
Penguin Dragneel
Don't Stop Fighting
@Dustcan
Did the shooter happen to be white?
Did the shooter happen to be white?
If so, then that would probably explain why the police didn’t do s##t about it for AN ENTIRE F###ING HOUR.
Meanlucario
Time to get spooky
@Background Pony #D717
I’m not complaining about bumping it to twice a year.
I’m not complaining about bumping it to twice a year.
Background Pony #D717
@Meanlucario
Ah, misunderstood. My fault. But yeah, I feel that more frequently, the better. Cause you may never know what kind of things send people over the edge. Sooner caught, the better.
Ah, misunderstood. My fault. But yeah, I feel that more frequently, the better. Cause you may never know what kind of things send people over the edge. Sooner caught, the better.
Meanlucario
Time to get spooky
@Background Pony #6B50
If they are actually “law abiding citizens,” than they will have no issues turning in their own guns and taking the test to earn their right to bare arms. Or do you think it was criminal when the law was passed that made owning slaves illegal as well, since it made those “law abiding citizens” criminals?
If they are actually “law abiding citizens,” than they will have no issues turning in their own guns and taking the test to earn their right to bare arms. Or do you think it was criminal when the law was passed that made owning slaves illegal as well, since it made those “law abiding citizens” criminals?
Background Pony #6B50
I can’t send millions of innocent Americans to jail and kill plenty of others today because the law hasn’t passed
But tomorrow they will be criminals, therefore it’s ok to do it!
The point is today, right now, their are millions of innocent Americans who are not harming anyone who will then be turned into criminals. They are not any more dangerous. Comparing these people to slave owners is a joke.
Mikey
Moderator
Pone of Astronomy
@Meanlucario
I said “nearly”. The US has a strong geographical location advantage, it’s situated miles from any non NA or SA country, not to mention the military power, and the diverse terrain in this country alone makes trying to invade a fool’s errand.
I said “nearly”. The US has a strong geographical location advantage, it’s situated miles from any non NA or SA country, not to mention the military power, and the diverse terrain in this country alone makes trying to invade a fool’s errand.
Meanlucario
Time to get spooky
@Background Pony #6B50
Again, no one is stopping them from turning in their guns other than themselves. Why try to act like these people will only do good when you don’t have enough faith in them to follow the law you claim they will upheld?
Again, no one is stopping them from turning in their guns other than themselves. Why try to act like these people will only do good when you don’t have enough faith in them to follow the law you claim they will upheld?
Dustcan 
Dogs
Well how are they supposed to merc unarmed black people on sight? Beat them to death with nightsticks?
That’s just so barbaric.
Speaking as someone with Criminal Justice education/training, “just shoot them in the X” is the wrong way if thinking. You’re trained to shoot center mass (ie, the chest) since it’s the biggest target. Trying to shoot tiny targets like the hands, feet or head - especially on a moving target - just leads to missing your shots
Not that the cops would’ve ahead of the time but the shooter was Hispanic.
Now, history has shown that knowledge probably would’ve made the cops get trigger happy a lot sooner, but at the time it was likely all they knew was that he was armed and actively shooting.
Background Pony #1D40
@Meanlucario
I don’t think by “law abiding” they meant “will respect any law no matter what”. I think a strict definition of “never did and never will break any law” is not useful at all. Many people abide by law in general, but might be willing to break laws they consider unjust. Would you say that Rosa Parks was not a law abiding citizen because she broke a law?
I don’t think by “law abiding” they meant “will respect any law no matter what”. I think a strict definition of “never did and never will break any law” is not useful at all. Many people abide by law in general, but might be willing to break laws they consider unjust. Would you say that Rosa Parks was not a law abiding citizen because she broke a law?
Meanlucario
Time to get spooky
@Background Pony #1D40
We’re talking about guns, not civil rights. And that’s different from my slavery comparison how?
We’re talking about guns, not civil rights. And that’s different from my slavery comparison how?
Background Pony #6B50
@Meanlucario
Again, these millions of people are not a danger to society, and implying that because they choose not to obey this law means that they actually are makes no sense. Just to confirm your saying that it would be ok to arrest millions of Americans?
Again, these millions of people are not a danger to society, and implying that because they choose not to obey this law means that they actually are makes no sense. Just to confirm your saying that it would be ok to arrest millions of Americans?
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