Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@SombrLiz
That said, no French president has ever made himself guilty of "remission of duty" openly enough for that vote to occur. Even Sarkozy's corruption scandals didn't catch up with him until after his term was over.

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My first politically-related memory was the death of François Mitterrand in 1997 (for the minute of silence we observed in school). Election-wise, I was in middle school when Jacques Chirac crushed Jean-Marie Le Pen in a surge of democratic spirit (and from there on, it only went downhill).

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She sure is. Rumor has it that she's planning to abdicate when she turns 95 in two years, but the rumor might be wrong.
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@Ereiam

We all know that Elizabeth is waiting for her kingdom to somehow lead to their deaths enough Innocents so the blood of the wronged can annoit her throne and she can unlock the power to become Arthur Pendragon and usher in an eternity of monarchy. This has been foretold on the ancient British political treatises. This is fact
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While this might not be the case here, a lot of times it's due to police incompetently escalating situations.

Many of them dont seem capable of diffusing or deescalating situations.
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@Zincy
I think police incompetence/escalation might have actually been the reason for the deaths.

Since the police where apparently the first group to open fire, not the robbers, and the police also apparently used cars that still had people inside them as cover for the shootout. Along with them trying to get force the robbers to stop at a busy intersection instead of a more less crowded area.
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I'd wait for the body cam footage before drawing any conclusions here. And Police aren't supposed to wait for the suspect to fire first before using deadly force. Hypothetically, if a gun is visible and that weapon is raised to fire at officers, deadly force is authorized regardless of whether or not the suspects weapon is discharged first.

Either way, body cams will show what really went down.
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Clearly the whole affair was orchestrated by UPS as a way to kill a teamster. We need to supply all our teamster members with full suits of powered armor.
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Pensacola naval base shooting that left 3 dead presumed to be terrorism, FBI says [NBC News]

So the shooting at a Navel Base in Pensacola, Florida that left three dead is presumed to be an act of terrorism, according to the FBI. The shooter, now identified as 21 year old Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, was a second lieutenant in the Royal Saudi Air Force who was in the Training program at the Navel Base. The official motive has yet to be declared.
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It's gonna be hard for certain people in power to admit that the murderer was a Saudi, same as they keep trying to make people forget the mass murderers of 9-11 were Saudis, same as so many try to bury how the Saudi leader ordered the assassination and desecration of Khashoggi (and thousands of others we don't hear about). Lots of money over there, lots of oil and power.

Tangentially, one of the murdered at the navy base was "one of us", >>2214626
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Can the "Mentally ill" and/or "Lone wolf" deflection be used on non-white shooters? Or is just because the shooter is Saudi this time the news will just try really hard to not draw attention?
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eventually the two extremes of the right wing were going to start going after each other, hating brown people and women can only unite you for so long before your other differences explode,
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Although I agree that I can't wait to see Macron gone, I don't think I'm willing to trade him for Trump just yet (or, most likely, ever)…


Trump declared annexation of France. All French citizens to vote in 2020 by fluke.
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Good luck with that, 80% of the French wouldn't have him as president either.


Of course, I wasn't expecting that to happen. I'm more entertaining who they might vote for as president, or who might try from France.

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