The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)

@Penguin Dragneel  
That’s Druckman for ya.

@Penguin Dragneel  
I’m already pissed. I love the father-daughter relationship between these two. It’s the best in video games.

@Scrabbleman  
That’s honestly what angers me the most. They take two of the most beloved characters in gaming right now, and they kill them because they think it’s deep or some s***.
 
Not to mention the character that did the deed is… eyebrow-raising, to say the least.

@Penguin Dragneel @Scrabbleman  
SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS

@Cyborg_pony  
Well sometimes, subverting expectations makes a franchise worse.
 
Thundercats Roar tried to subvert expectations, and it’s hot garbage.

@Penguin Dragneel  
Yes… that’s exactly why I said it.

@Cyborg_pony  
I know.

This probably sums up the fall of NaughtyDog pretty well.
 

 
Keep this in mind when people enviably start defending NaughtyDog for having Representation

@Cyborg_pony  
Man, what happened to Naughty Dog? The same Naughty Dog that gave us the Crash Bandicoot series, the Jak & Daxter series, and even the Uncharted series. How the fuck did they fall from grace?

@SombrLiz  
By the timeline, hiring Druckman.

@Cyborg_pony  
Why is he still hired anyway if all he did was mess up?

@Scrabbleman  
They pretty much made him a CEO. So he’ll pretty much stay there till the company is on the verge of skuttling.
 
It’s the Kojima effect.

@Scrabbleman  
If Bobby Kotick can keep his job after all the s*** he’s done, so can Druckman apparently.

The actual plot, according to Reddit, is actually a lot worse than the leaks imply.
 
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Good news is that Ellie lives. Bad news is that we’re still controlling the one who beat the crap out of her and for some goddamn awful reason, the game (and subsequently Naughty Dog) wants us to sympathize with this horrible person who went on a rampage to kill the only two characters that mattered in the series (and successfully killing one).
 
Fuck this, I’m not even touching this game with a ten-foot pole.

@Scrabbleman  
God that is an awful plot. Why would you brutalize the two characters that everyone remembers and actually cares about from the first game?

Neil’s Lesbian Loli Game
 
Japanese games = Must be censored
 
English games = fine
 
Why? Because reasons.

@SombrLiz  
Naughty Dog showed signs of decay very early. A big focus of Crash Bandicoot’s development was an attempt to create good-looking 3D graphics on PS1 hardware. As the series went on, ND inserted many gimmicky gameplay styles because they felt that doing their 2.5D platforming was getting stale. Jak and Daxter was an attempt to create a bigger 3D platforming experience for new hardware. While none of these things are necessarily bad, they show that ND didn’t have as high of a priority on making good gameplay, instead having more of a concern about innovating with their hardware.
 
Naughty Dog’s death becomes apparent in the making of Jak 2. Jak and Daxter didn’t sell to expectations. And what was their reasoning as to why this was? Was it not making a good gameplay experience? No. They pointed to two things: one, that the character design of Jak wasn’t relatable enough, that it wasn’t a stereotype that any market could identify with. The second excuse was that 3D platformers were on the way out. Yes, it’s definitely the fault of the genre, and not that you put more of a focus on making a big world, rather than make exploring that world fun.
 
But the next part is the dev’s true death: that they decided that to make the next Jak game more appealing, that they would take inspiration from Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, what a good idea. All of their talk about wanting to innovate, but then they go ape one of the least creative ideas in the industry. It’s at this point that their ‘innovation’ they talk about actually means making their games more closely resemble reality.
 
This becomes most clear when Uncharted comes along. Take the typical concept of an action movie and make a game of it. Again, this kind of idea is not necessarily bad, but it puts a priority on making something resemble reality over making a good gameplay experience. But what kind of innovation is that? A third person shooter with hitscan weaponry, and watching your character slowly move along a ledge while you hold the control stick? It’s only an innovation in the minds of people who think that the thing holding gaming back is technical limitations not allowing us to simulate reality. What a joke.
 
None of this is a judgment on how good the games themselves are. I like more than half of them. But Naughty Dog have never had the right priorities when designing games, and as technology improves, these types are going to focus more on making a realistic experience than making a good gameplay experience. They’re not entirely mutually exclusive goals, but they do oppose one another. Worse technology meant that designers were more willing to compromise reality, since they weren’t very close to begin with. But the more games can simulate reality, the more designers will focus on reality, to the detriment to everything else.

@Plain Pony  
And the development of Last of Us 2 was going so well with the progressive dogma Druckman was pushing that 70% of the staff quit to be replaced with hack interns. Although, how many will just go work at another studio and the same thing happens?
 
Honestly, looking at the Uncharted games is Drake’s character and charisma carried the series, when Druckman took over, there was nothing of what Amy Hennig gave to the character, and of course, had to replace him with Chloe and Nadine and no one even remembers that game.
 
Crash is only popular because of the 3 old games and the racing, they didn’t even add anything that interesting, like giving more unique death animations to, especially to Coco, most of hers is just ghost and so she’s not real interesting to play, she’s just kind of there because there was already a model. They also could of added costumes, like even give Crash a Drake skin, but they didn’t bother. Hell, Druckman removed skins from Uncharted to no be “offensive” Same thing with Spyro.
 
They’ll probably try to cash in on Nostalgia with a Jak Trilogy next to recoop from LoU2’s dismal failure, and it’ll sadly sell, due to many games like it being very scares.

@Plain Pony  
@Cyborg_pony  
Were any of these complaints about the studio common / well documented before this leak? I’ve never cared about the studio given I’ve never cared about PS.

@The Frowning Pony  
I believe these issues were building up in the community, but have since exploded with the recent leaks.

@The Frowning Pony  
YoungYea covered it in a video months ago
 
It apparently had been the case since Uncharted 4, when Druckman took over that.
 
Bioware was the same story when Andromeda and Anthem were being made. There’s a lot in common with those studios .

@Background Pony #BB2E  
Woops. damn anon button.

 
In other words, if you don’t like it then you’re a bigot. Yeah, we’ll see how that will work out?

@SombrLiz  
Isn’t that supposed to be “If you’re a bigot, don’t buy our stuff”?
 
I see a lot of these kinds of posts on Tumblr, usually asking people not to interact.

@SombrLiz  
I told you they’d jump to that defense.
 
What’s even more hilarious And makes Druckman look even worse. Is, Kurt never said that. Look at the words; “People of color” that’s a very modern phrase. No one said that in the early 90’s, not only is Druckman using a dead man as a puppet, but also putting words in the mouth of a corpse.
 
What a total scumbag.