Unpopular opinion time (super alpha no pony edition)

@QuasarNova  

 
Spelling mistakes aside, I agree with this. This is why I can be quite critical of nihilistic views on things, like immortality, transhumanism, et cetera.

I hate it when mod authors confuse realism for immersion.  
You know’s really immersive: being fun and easy to access

Realism as a goal strikes me as masturbatory, and not even the fun kind of masturbatory.

@Whatevs
 
@gasmaskangel
 

 
MrBtongue would like to have a few words

@Ebalosus  
I’m not referring to literary realism. That I merely dislike for the most part for being an exercise in bleakness and mundanity that I’m expected to fine deep just because it doesn’t play to the cliches that everyone is supposed to hate upon becoming an adult for some reason.
 
I’m referring to the way most game developers seem to use the word, in the literal sense.

@gasmaskangel
 
Yes I know, I’m being facetious :P
 
Granted, when it comes to videogames, I thought that the tradeoff for realism was playability…

@Ebalosus  
This is often the case. Looking at you, Wither and Witcher 2. Also Dwarf Fortress, but in that at least it can mostly be played for laughs.

If you are over the age of 12 and can’t wrap your head around the idea that boys and girls are sometimes born with the wrong physical form, And should be treated with respect for their true gender, Then you are a bad person.

Gender and sex are two different things. Gender can be changed: you feel like you were born a male? Great, you’re a male now. You feel like you’re neither gender? Go with that. Sex, however, is the number of chromosomes you have. That can’t be changed: if you have XY chromosomes then you have male chromosomes. Doesn’t mean you can’t still be a woman, though.

@And Brother I Hurt People  
Sad thing that not many people get this

It’s why people don’t like calling them “sex changes.” You can’t change your sex, just physically alter your body to look like you were born as the opposite.
 
I’ve heard the comparison as if you woke up one day and were in the body of the opposite gender and hated it.
 
I don’t give a shit about what people do with their body, what they cut off, or what they put on.
 
But gender is a social construct, right?

@Background Pony  
Well gender roles and gender expression are social constructs but gender identity is at least in part a psychological trait.  
In other words gender identity is a lot like sexual orientation.

@ender1200  
Gender roles are fairly ubiquitous across humanity with generally the same ideas behind them.  
So I’d argue they’re more than arbitrary constructs. I realize you aren’t saying they are but lots of people do.
 
I see them as generalized guidelines

@Whatevs  
Gender roles are mainly shaped by economic forces. (but also by ideology) The ones we are familiar with a lot less ubiquitous if you look outside the big Eurasian civilizations (which have a very long history of sharing ideas and philosophies with each others), but so are other economical and social concepts.

@ender1200  
Well you’re right, I am only looking at big societies.  
China, Japan, Europe and I’m sure various others have basically the same general roles

@Whatevs  
Thing is, if you study clotures such as the ones that existed in preColombian America, or any society that was not affected by cultural effects of China India Mesopotamia and Greek and Rome and you will find some very big surprises. (Not just in regard to gender)

@ender1200  
I’m sure that’s true.

Cracks knuckles
 
Moral and ethnics are constructs used to get satisfaction and further our own objectives. The only truth is that there are choices and people who won’t accept those choices because they contradict their own.
 
Both come from a base were doing something that gives you a satisfactory reaction from someone or gives a personal boost is always something you seek.
 
Why do I help other people? why am I nice to them? Because subconsciously, that puts them on my good side and they get an ego boost (as in “Someone helped, I matter to someone”) and that happens with myself as well (“I helped someone. It felt good), therefore, enhancing that conduct to the rest of the people around.
 
“But Quasar you paragon of stupidity” I see you writing. “Why if I feel better beign a jerk to some?” or “If that’s true, what about internet trolls and racist people, biggots, homphobes and so on?”
 
Same reason as above. You get a personal satisfaction from doing this or try to get praise by doing this, if you don’t get it, you may think you’re not trying hard enough. Depending on the situation, it can go with the person either stopping it all together because he got what he wanted, or he continues doing it because he gets personal satisfaction from it and doesn’t look for praise.
 
 
Even as you read this, theres a high chance this is what comes across your heads: “This guys has no idea what the fuck is talking about” or “I agree with this because I feel the same way/seen this in other people or places”.
 
One side does not agree because they don’t get an ego boost from this, therefore something must be wrong. The other feels it right because they have experienced this personally.
 
tl;dr: Right or wrong are defined by how good it makes us feel inside after doing it

@QuasarNova  
I would argue that groups form a collective example of right or wrong on top of all that.  
After all, rape is seen as bad because the majority agree it is bad. But rapists do not agree.

@Whatevs
 
It would still apply with that example.
 
What does a rapist want? Sexual satisfaction, so in his mind he is doing something he considers right because it makes him feel good.
 
As for the large groups. It also works, the weaker look up to the stronger because in their mind what he wants is what they want as well, and he can bring it to them

@QuasarNova  
And the large group values the safety of its own over the satisfaction of someone so violent and exploitative.

@Whatevs
 
Now you get it. The rapist makes them feel bad, so they need to dispose of him since that will make them feel better, the rapist on the other hand, feels they have taken something away from him, ergo, he feels they are the bad guys.

@QuasarNova  
The rapist is the bad guy, I don’t care how i came to posses my basic morals, hurting others is wrong, and anyone who thinks other wise is evil, end of story, no grand debate no grey zone, Hurt others for own benefit=bad person.

@QuasarNova  
well I got it from the start, what I said was an addition.
 
And the rapist’s morality is directly harming another, which also invalidates his claim in the eyes of the group.

@Thanotos Omega
 
And that’s the world you decided to see or you were tought to see.
 
It’s neither good nor bad, it’s your own way of seeing things and you like it that way.
 
@Whatevs
 
Because you know it as well, nothing is important if it doesn’t have someone backing it up. How do you win the crowd? appealing to their needs and urgency,as well as their morality to win their sympathy