@Derpy Whooves  
Ok, I’m very sorry. Thank you for correcting the mistake and informing me of what I did wrong. Wasn’t really sure or not.

@Schorl Tourmaline  
Please keep your off site drama off of the site, and don’t share your personal conversations with others in public posts.

@Background Pony #290E  
I wonder to what degree the first sentence of your posting is actually projection…
 
Well, I guess we’re about find out.

@Schorl Tourmaline  
I honestly don’t think you have the self-control to stop commenting, but I’d be delighted and very happy for you if it turns out you can.
 
And only death will stop me from drawing adorable little fillies, so don’t worry about that! I’ll have to say no to the prattle though: there’s piles of textbooks on my desk for when I feel like spending hours staring at giant walls of text ;)

@Eggonaught  
Oh hai there Egoonaught. Long time no see ^_. Actually, no, this isn’t what I do all the time. I have two stories that I am currently working on. One of them is even FoE related. I know that reading the stories was never your thing, but here’s a link to my current projects if you’d like to give them a read.
 
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/240413/equestria-trainers-society-recruitment  
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/356020/after-fall-of-equestria-weak-and-powerless
 
I know I haven’t updated them in about a month… but hey, that is still 1/12th the time of any canon FoE story update.^_
 
Aside from that I work, play overwatch, have the occasional stream session (currently I’m doing an LP of Disgaea 2, and it’s just as fun as I remembered =P), and chat it up with the fans of FoE in skype, and run a group for said fans which allows them to speak their minds freely about the setting, unlike NCN’s group which censors anyone who wants to talk a little common sense about the setting. here, you can have a link to that too if you’d like, along with a pat on the head. Always happy to have an opportunity to promote my stuff and stroke my Eggo^_^)
 
http://www.fimfiction.net/group/211790/the-real-fall-of-equestria-fan-group
 
But let’s get down to the real reason you are here, and how you must have a fairly poor memory. I mean I WAS part of NCN’s group, so I know the sad and petty games you like to play. How you just like to try and rile up people who say “neigh” to the porn you like, and harass them because you think you can get away with it. To be honest that might be the case, but if your goal here is to attempt to waste my time by having me go back and forth with you… I have to disappoint you. Honestly, you are the least of my concerns when it comes to FoE.
 
I’ll concede that you are a talented artist, but your work doesn’t do anything for me in the rage department. It’s simply too… tame, or clich’e. I mean don’t blame me for this review. It was NCN who first brought this to my attention, and unless his opinions have changed, he told me he doesn’t even like the idea of Twilight and Shining hooking up because “It’s been done to death”. But, he had no issue with “fan art” hinting at the notion. And that’s another reason why I think your art is simply… quaint. It’s technically non-canon, and thus has no affect on the lore, which is all I really care about. Though I would have to say, I personally do think your current image, and the images before hand, would have been better as non-FoE works. It would have been less constricted by the setting, and would have allowed you to draw all those little fillies you like so much.
 
But ok, I digress. All I’m saying is that if you wish to say things about me from this point on, don’t expect a response. I mean you don’t care about negative opinions, so why should in return? And if I did, I probably would have never did what I did. However, if you’d like to talk about something constructive in the future, I will gladly have a prattle with you. Might even be willing to give you some sexy ideas for images, because again, I have no issues with your art.
 
TL;DR: Cat’s Rule, Dog’s Drool.

Super cute pic Puff! Can’t beat kitty paws and a cat cock <3
 
@Schorl Tourmaline  
Holy shit, is this all you do now? It’s really sad and petty to be so obsessed by weird personal grievances.

@Aristagtle  
Oh yeah… here is a link to my story: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/227547

@Background Pony #54C9  
Well, my stories actually focus on the caribou. This isn’t to say that the ponies are unimportant, but I have many caribou OCs in the stories, including a few cows. I arguably came up with more different caribou OCs than any other individual writer, and I try to make them all individual characters instead of cardboard cut-outs. My current story for the most part takes place during the Dainn regime. It’s about a bunch of caribou and ponies who form a resistance. They will face threats and challenges in the later chapters, but there’s also a lot of relationshipping and world-building going on. Right now I’m still writing the earlier chapters, and they’re mostly about how their resistance group is set up, and about why the different caribou characters are even in it. Once everything is set up, Vestri will serve as their main antagonist for the most part of the story - although there will be a certain twist in the last chapters. The sequel will then take place in one of the camps where the caribou are imprisoned after Dainn’s death and the end of the regime.

@thps48  
I thought at this point I made my motivations pretty clear, but if you haven’t heard I would be glad to explain in excruciating detail in a more private place like FIMFiction’s private messages. No need to bother everyone else with stuff they probably already know.
 
However I’m here this time because someone talked about the Ambris images/story, ,of which I played a major part of because the person who started it didn’t want to finish it, and I was dragged in. So to that extent, I felt it important to clarify the intent of the story, that it was purely propaganda put in front of images that anyone could get from any mare, willing or otherwise. I mean it talks about the Zebra living in meager huts and having a conveniently placed abusive couple as an example of why the caribou are so freaking awesome. I thought it would be clear that all that was a lie. No, just the caribou being incredibly racist while at the same time trying to preserve their image, because remember… they are the good guys in all this as far as NCN is concerned.

@rylasasin  
The former. And I wrote that in a bad way, I didn’t mean I want it to be like Satam without Sonic, I meant that’s what fall can be like as it is now. No serious opposition means no serious conflict. And slice of life segments almost never get featured in stories.
 
 
@Aristagtle  
Do your stories deal with actual threats or are they about picking up the pieces? Cause after that defeat the good guys seem more in control than the bad guys ever were.

@Background Pony #54C9  

 
You mean Satam? … or god forbid, Sonic Underground?

I keep on forgetting one of the former contributers continuously causes trouble for no discernible reason. <3<

@Background Pony #54C9  
I don’t think Schorl’s story shares all the glaring flaws of the original. It takes over some of the issues that come with the setting, sometimes due to NCN’s meddling, sometimes simply due to the fact that it took up his canon, but it also builds around them in ways that are often quite clever. Often even in very subtle ways.
 
Also, while Schorl apparently doesn’t want to take up the caribou in stories that take place after their defeat any more, there are caribou survivors in her finale. Others can write stories about them. I plan to do so myself, for example. In my stories, not all caribou are villains though. And incidentally, as far as I know, Schorl also plans continue writing FoE stories that take place during the regime. I’m fairly certain caribou will appear in them.

@Schorl Tourmaline  
Here’s the thing, if your vision shares all the glaring flaws of the original plus an ending where the extreme kink gets done away with (and yes, dammit I liked that but it’s not the only thing or everything!), plus it’s a platform to attack and or vent (which I hate, I can’t stand Gordon Ramsay’s show either even if he’s a good cook), plus you exclude any way it could be written to evolve into a more balanced version, then why should I like it?
 
If I am judging your version unfairly cause you were boxed in by ncn, fine. No more hiding behind that for either of us.  
What WOULD your version of fall be? I only got the one out there to go from. Your eqt universe is too different to count. Let me better understand.
 
Me, I like when it’s outlandish and over the top, and dark and evil and funny. The problem is that it only goes one way. The caribou and their pony allies need something to contrast them, they’re like the Joker without a Batman. DC tried that, it gets old really quick. Or that Sonic show where Eggman already took over the world, but without, you know, Sonic. That would be my ideal.

@Background Pony #54C9  
I’m sorry if I made you feel that way, but I sensed a bit of bias to your statements, which seemed like a common complaint to material such as mine. That it is okay to do all the things you listed, so long as it doesn’t interfere with the person’s erection. If I was wrong, then I’m sorry, but when you bring up these complaints while these are sins of FoE in general, it just feels bias. I am not ignoring your criticisms, just saying that these complaints are nothing new to FoE, so why judge my story as worse than the ones standard to FoE?

@Schorl Tourmaline  
No, that’s not all. Did you miss the point about a middle ground? Or was it easier just to ignore that? I even admitted the original is more boring than your version. Not by much for me, but there it is.
 
You claim to know what I’m thinking, but you don’t. Please, in the future, don’t be so dismissive. Yeah my first post was flippant and dismissive as well, but that is in part cause I don’t ever see anything other from you. And now I feel I am also wasting my time because you will just reduce any criticism to people wanting fap and making excuses for it. Meh.

@Background Pony #54C9  
ok, if I may address your issues real quick. Firstly, the red collars. I was never saying that there would not be red collars, or a that every red is a fake, but lets just look at this objectively. Out of the cast of characters we have in MLP, who out of any of them would be likely to prefer this kind of life over having their lives without the caribou. The correct answer is that very few would have reason to want their lives reduced to being nothing more than jizz receptacles. MLP characters are either more driven than to submit to slavery, have a high sense of responsibility for their actions to want others to suffer for such a life style, or in the case of female villains, are far too egotistical to ever obey a bunch of cock guided deer. You might have the rare few that could be easily cowed into submission, but they could never truly enjoy such a life. So if you want a red collar, and one that is legit, you look to the OCs, the ponies designed to have no will of their own, or are the kind of evil bitches that would thrive in such a scenario. Your Sunset Shimmers and Paiges, and to a lesser degree your Wishy Washys. The only problem with that is that very few of these OCs are really all that interesting, because all they do is give up on the spot and give us no reason to like them, or that people tend to not care about OCs to begin with.
 
As for predictability… well that might have been true for my story, but you have to remember that NCN approved of all but the very end of my story, and as such I was simply using a bunch of red collars that were fake to prove a point. At the time at least, the way they were displayed were how the were. If you have a problem with that, then you have a problem with FoE. Sorry, but every red collar was represented exactly as they were suppose to be.
 
Speaking of things being represented as they were suppose to be, I have to inform you that NCN and Twipet had direct influence over the caribou characters (Twipet herself writing the bits for Vestri in one chapter), and often changed things to better suit their ideas of them, even when it came to my own character, Gunne. So if you find that the caribou are stupid, then it’s because the caribou are stupid. Also, I must ask if this is a one sided argument, because you have to see the irony of that statement when the pony characters are often treated as stupid when it comes to FoE, even more so than my portrayal of them, which I must say again, was mostly done with NCN’s interference and approval.
 
And yes, I’m probably not going to have the caribou make any kind of comeback. Villains lose sometimes, and in the case of the caribou there is no reason why they should recover after losing control, because they are, as you stated, pretty freaking dumb. As for others following in their footsteps… well I don’t see much of a reason why anyone would want to follow their self destructive path. Maybe my opinion, but I don’t think any of the MLP characters have that much power and command while being that stupid.
 
And the last bit, the play story. Was it a knock at FoE’s standard writing? Yes. It was not directed at all of them though, simply one of them, the worst of t bunch, of whom I think everyone writes better than. There are plenty of good FoE writers, like Sirius, and most of them are personal friends of mine. If anything, it is amazing they can write good stories despite NCN’s meddling. However, it is fairly easy to see how subpar Twipet’s work is, both on levels of ability and creativity. Two of her stories were rehashes of existing MLP episodes, and her main story is just a personal attempt to thrust herself into an important part of the setting… poorly. Might be my opinion, but I strongly stand by.
 
Will my future stories continue to bring up the issues with FoE? Most likely, as there is much to bring up. If you don’t like that, that is fine. I’m not saying that any of your points are invalid, just misdirected at me when some of these problems are universal when it comes to FoE. It’s predictable, people are written stupidly to make the plot work, and it often ridicules the source material because the people making it seem to have no real respect for it. The only issue that matters to you though is that NCN’s version gives you fap material, and mine does not. Again, that’s fine, but I wish you would have narrowed down your response to just that. Would have saved me some time explaining how you’re complaints are just a tad hypocritical. Anyways, please keep enjoying FoE in any form you choose to. I will likewise be doing the same. ^_

@Schorl Tourmaline  
Ok. So, one thing was the red collars. With you, they were almost all of them just acting. You took out most of the conditioning or brainwashing having any effect or the idea some of the victims might break and come to enjoy it. Nope, all acting. Whether or not that is “realistic” is less relevant to me versus is it “interesting”. Those things are all staple in fantasy and sci fi writing. Superhero or sci fi or fantasy comics, films, and books often use them to create interesting and suspenseful scenarios. If they’re all acting anyway save maybe two or three, then it’s not interesting anymore. Characters don’t have to worry meeting a new red collar, we already know they are basically rebels in waiting. It’s predictable. And you then have a boring resolution when the rebels eventually win since the evil badguys weren’t allowed to use any of the tools fantasy bad guys would normally use. Maybe not as boring as them being invincible and stomping everything, but come on, there is no middle ground there?
 
And I often felt your bad guys were written to be stupid. I know you say they are all stupid, but the choice comes down to what you give them. You are the author. And making them all stupid is also just boring. Victory doesn’t mean much when the enemy is made up of morons. You don’t have to be sane to be clever either. There are a lot of people who justify the craziest things to themselves and still manage to be competent and smart. The only smart characters I remember in your story were rebels, or about to be rebels. On top of that they often didn’t come across as stupid characters but rather characters written to look stupid.
 
All that might not even be important anymore cause your fall setting isn’t fall anymore. It’s done. The things I liked are over. The only way it could be interesting to me again is if it turns out there is still enough of the original fall of equestria around. Look at force awakens for example. The rebels had won, they killed the emperor and blew up the death star. But it’s not over, the danger is still relevant. The empire came back, much much smaller, but also meaner and better. Nothing tells me this could happen in your vision or that you would give someone blessing to write where it happens. And we are talking about your vision here, the one were all the zebras are all acting with their red collars and couldn’t possibly ever be not acting.
 
And okay, I don’t know all your work cause I stopped looking at it after that story about the play. That was too much author tract about how the writers who aren’t you suck. If that is what you want to use the setting for that’s your choice. But then it all just becomes a vehicle to slap people you or others don’t like in the face. I already wouldn’t know if would even want to try a new story in fall from you because what if it is just another middle finger?

@Background Pony #54C9  
That’s fine, though I must ask you something. What exactly is it you don’t like about my version? That kind of data would really help me out in the future. I always love feedback, positive or otherwise.

@Schorl Tourmaline  
No offence, but I really don’t like your vision of it. I’d rather it be someone else.

@Background Pony #54C9  
you’re welcome. But then again it should be up to someone to set things straight. I mean NCN makes no effort to dos so, so who better than someone who actually had something to do with the setting aside from sit back and let everyone else do everything for then ^_-.

@Background Pony #3F1D  
No reason then. Good to know an authority on fall tells us what to think. Especially one that says the opposite about doing so with others.

@Background Pony #3F1D  
Annnnnndddd…. forgot to log in first.

@thps48  
Being the one who wrote the second part of the Ambris story (because Twipet was too lazy to do it herself), I would like to openly express that the book was a farce, and that there is not, nor would not, be any reason the zebra would serve the caribou except out of necessity… or perhaps just as a means to lull them into a false sense of security in order to take them down later. Basically, this stuff with Zecora, like most FoE content, is just porn based BS that has no real founding in anything MLP.