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“Seriously, half of the questions I hear in my theater can be answered with Because then there will be no movie.”
Now that Rogue One is out, you could argue that they did that on purpose to screw The Empire over…
Ultimately the industrial capacity of the United States– rendered functionally invulnerable by General Arctic and Admirals Atlantic and Pacific– made Allied victory in all but the most science fictional WWII inevitable, but several thousand Japanese civilians were dying from starvation and disease every week by the summer of 1945 due to the near-total American blockade, and tens of thousands died in every air raid on a major city once USAAF General LeMay switched from high altitude “precision” bombing to low-level firebombing; especially if the difference had come early enough to allow the Imperial Navy to build more carriers and better protect naval supply lines, and the Imperial Army to reinforce the territory it had already captured, “extended for a little longer” would have made for a dramatically different Pacific War, and dramatically more horrifying endgame and postwar period. One of the main historical justifications for the endgame use of atomic bombs was that the contextual alternative was not in fact “Japan surrenders anyway within a few weeks”, but “the war drags on into the Spring of 1946 after combined U.S./Soviet invasion, and Japan ultimately loses several million more civilians and possibly ceases to exist as a nation”; anything that made early American successes in the Pacific more difficult– or even impossible– would have drawn out that horror by a considerable extent. The original goal of the attack on Pearl Harbor was to prevent American intervention in Japan’s plan to seize most of the Western Pacific and Southeast Asia, and the loss of USS Lexington and USS Enterprise at Pearl would have left USS Saratoga as the only U.S. carrier in the Pacific and almost certainly meant the loss of the Battles of The Coral Sea (and subsequent Imperial invasion of New Guinea and The Solomons, and possibly even northern Australia) and Midway (and subsequent occupation of Midway as a forward Imperial Army/Navy base).
The outcome of “Allied victory” may have been more or less predetermined, but it could very easily have come at a far more nightmarish cost, and one that would have left the world far more primed for WWIII in the 1950s and global nuclear war in the ’60s. WWII was the worst thing to happen to the Human Race since the Toba Catastrophe 70,000 years ago, but in terms of a strategy game, we still got one of the good endings.
I don’t know. Japan would have a better advantage for a while (Due to those carriers being destroyed) but in the end, I think the outcome would be the same (Just extended for a little longer).
What’s so different about the 4th one?
All three aircraft carriers of the US Navy’s Pacific Fleet were still docked at Pearl Harbor on the morning of November 28th; it would have been a… completely different war if they’d been caught at their berths.
What’s so different about the 4th one?
I don’t get…AIEEEEEEEEE!
WHY DIDN’T I GO FOR, “IT’S DARKEST AT THE FOOT OF THE LIGHTHOUS-”
[grimdarkish]
Can’t see the forest for the trees…
CAREFUL OF THOSE TREES MAN, THEY LOOK PRETTY PISSED OFF
I’m kicking myself for not seeing the obvious. I was wracking my brain for movies, games and cartoons, and it never occurred to me to recall things from FIM itself.
sigh Can’t see the forest for the trees…
I’d say trying to break the unit cohesion of the Element Of Loyalty’s designated avatar by playing on her greatest single desire was a pretty darn good plan; even if it didn’t work outright– and Dash was totally considering it for a moment– it puts a seed of doubt in her head that might have kept her from “synchronizing” or whatever with the Element. Maybe it’s just because I’d recently seen the tree scenes from Evil Dead that the scary face trees in the Everfree seemed scarier than just “scary face trees”, but evil trees what grab you and make crunching sounds are generally considered pretty scary things in most horror and fantasy stories.
Yeah, Mister Magnet and the manticore were kinda softballs, but hey– you throw whatever you got at the evil wall and see if it villainously sticks. I still think the cliff thing was pretty outright murderous, and she was no doubt trying to kebab Twilight at the end there; Twilight playin’ her like a big black fiddle with that blink spell remains one of my favorite moments of the series.
Well to be fair her others ideas involve upsetting an campy sea serpent, putting scary faces on trees and a lousy attempt at lurig a pony to the dark night. Not exactly scary or clever plans
I don’t recognise that last one, but it sounds familiar
I always laugh whenever anyone talks about how lame a villain Nightmare Moon was for supposedly not being very dangerous; the first thing she tried to do was murder four of the Mane Six by knocking them off a cliff into a gorge, and the last thing she tried to do was impale Twilight on her horn.
Red Alert
Scientist: Uh, Einstein? Don’t you realise if you do this, you’ll cease to exist too since the timeline you came from won’t be there anymore?
Einstein: …good point! Shuts the Time Machine off
Star Wars Episode IV
Gunner: Sir, lifeforms or not, we can’t let any escape pods get away. They might contain info for the enemy!
Lieutenant: …good point! Orders the gunner to shoot the escape pod
I don’t recognise that last one, but it sounds familiar. Help?
“…Yeah, okay– we won’t eat The Fruit.”
“Sure, Moses– take off. We have plenty enough public works laborers to finish the project.”
“Herr Hitler, your application to the Vienna School Of Art has been approved; you may begin classes immediately.”
“Yesterday, November 28th, 1941, a date which will live in infamy…”
“Hold on– if a proton torpedo were fired directly down this vent shaft here, wouldn’t its magnetic containment field stabilize on the walls of the shaft just like a launch tube, and allow it to pass all the way down to the main reactor cooling unit? Get the design team back in here.”
“What the Tartarus? That purple kid just bust in here and stole the Homecoming crown!”
“General, we’ve received the target coordinates from Hogwarts– shall we launch the strike squadron?”
“I can’t believe that purple mist just came out of nowhere and killed our new Librarian!”
That works if the villain’s ability to pursue is limitless, or at least is greater than the heroes’ ability to run.
Here, sure, Sauron’s got everything he needs for the limitless pursue, but this detail is something to keep in mind for other similar stories.
Star Wars Epiode IV: A New Hope:
The movie would’ve been over quicker if the gunner was allowed to fire on the escape pod (Containing R2-D2 & C-3PO) that came zooming by them.
I can name a movie that ceases to exist before it even starts.
Minority Report has its entire plot and everything that happens in it entirely constructed around the legal and ethical concept of being able to charge someone for a murder they haven’t yet committed, but WILL commit. This is utterly spurious and completely pointless since it’s already possible to charge someone with ATTEMPTED MURDER, meaning the whole concept of the film makes no sense.
Like, I dunno, a romantic movie that could’ve been avoided by picking up the bloody phone?
People always come up with other outcomes, not knowing that they didn’t matter, ‘cause the outcome that already happened is the only outcome that’ll succeed. Jeez……. People are so stupid sometimes….
Most importantly, the ring is magic. It can only be destroyed in one place, by one particular method. No ifs, ands or buts. It must be melted down in the flames of Mt Doom. So the only way to stop Sauron is to take the ring to him without him knowing about it. Somehow.
Not boring, but it’s useless. You can’t run forever, so either you get rid of the thing by destroying it, or the bad guy wins.