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What if Rarity was Spike’s age?
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…okay. The “60 Minutes” thing? Slightly hyperbolic reference to a mid-90s news program, intended to highlight the idiocy of imposing the general fandom’s 21st-century Western biases (including plushies of friends being ‘stalker-y’) upon characters in the show’s context. It might be creepy for older American humans, but they’re neither American nor human. Or even hominid. The pones may have superficially comparable mannerisms, but that doesn’t indicate a one-for-one equivalence of cultural values or taboos. If it ain’t creepy for anypone at the table (at least one of whom would’ve seen Spike & friend), then all that’s left is shore-horning inhuman beings into a human frame of mind.
Furthermore, fun as it is to beat each other over the heads with, how much does this ‘enlightened’ fandom-lens matter to the target audience? Not one whit. Cute plushie, end of story. Claiming a ‘real-life example’ analogy for twentysomething cynics takes precedence over the writers & animators’ intent seems patently facetious. And since I have zero desire to make this a multi-pager, good day.
I never said you personally/specifically said or inferred that, I was talking about some fans, collectively. What made you think I did or was trying to argue that with you? I didn’t even know you and I were supposed to be arguing about Sparity being “canon” or not. I wasn’t trying to.
If you’re talking about me, I’m not an anti shipper. And I don’t really get what you’re talking about with the 60 minutes part either. I was just trying to simplify for you how, depending on the context we are looking at this doll from and talking about it, it’s either going to be “creepy” or not. Because you didn’t seem to get that, accusing me of “backpedaling” when I was talking about two very different things the whole time (in show context and how the doll was likely intended, as a cute innocent throwaway joke, and from an over analytical fandom perspective with how some people are trying to argue it as ship reinforcement, and how if this was a real life example of someone having a toy version of their unrequited crush it would raise more than a few eyebrows).
The only reason my replies have gotten “bloated” is because I’ve been trying to clarify to you what you’ve clearly been misunderstanding. Obviously unsuccessfully, lol.
I already said, I get what you’re saying about Rarity. Can we assume that she saw, or should have see it? Probably. But can we say for sure she did, did we see her look up and witness it? No. “Probably did” and “unquestionably did” are very different things.
Mind telling me where I inferred the doll was a SPARITEE CANERN HINT? And frankly, the relentless zeal and ballooning length of this exchange argues much for the unhealthy fixation of anti-_shippers in turn. As does “Well, seen from a 21st century American perspective such gestures are totes _60 Minutes material.” They’re technicolor magic horse-things in a world that runs on friendship who hug & nuzzle compatriots at the drop of a hat & engrave hearts in every other doorframe. Perhaps it’s time to find some other piece of so-called Crap Under the Radar(C) to bicker over.
@Background Pony #CDE1
Rarity. At table. Fifteen-or-so-feet. From doorway. With plushie. Assuming she has the magic of peripheral vision…
There’s no “backpedaling” here dude. In context, in show (which I think I specified pretty clearly more than once) I think it’s a cute throwaway gag. Rarity didn’t react to it and neither did anybody else, negatively or otherwise, and I’m pretty sure we would have gotten a negative reaction or at least a follow up gag(like you said spit take or something) if it was supposed to be. Spike’s a little kid, he still sleeps with plushies, he has an innocent crush on Rarity and has a doll of her. Even if this wasn’t cute (I guess that could be subjective) I’m pretty positive it’s supposed to be.
Cue fandom and how a lot of us react to things, over analyze everything ad naseum and blow most things way out of proportion. Especially when it comes to things like shipping that’s a huge deal for most people who are into it and how you see people with shipping goggles finding and arguing “hints” or “proof” all the time. From a real world external point of view, when people are looking at the doll or trying to argue it as shipping proof or a hint or something yeah it is creepy. Because again, like I said imagine it in a real world situation. These are two totally different situations here, I don’t think it’s really that hard to understand (or shouldn’t be).
And yeah I get what you’re saying, and it’s reasonable to say that she should have seen it. But there’s still no way to say for sure that she did because we didn’t see her, so to say she had or would have no reaction to him having a doll of her may or may not be true. We can’t know with what we’ve got.
Checked a screencap, and not only did he drop that thing right in the doorway, Squiggley was on the closer side of the table. She’d have to be near-blind to miss it.
Which of course ‘vindicates’ the external putzes squalling for toon dragons to be slapped with a restraining order. Sad thing is how often we bite that bait & chew it all the way into the boat.
I don’t call “backpedaling” too often, but you might want to replace those heels.
I don’t think we’re supposed to find it creepy in context, I think it was just meant as a cute throwaway gag. But I think the odds are slim to none that the writing team didn’t at least consider how some people would react to it and over analyze it.
All I’m saying is, there’s no way to say for sure she saw it, before or after he left, since she never reacted on screen. In fact, now that I think about its possible it wasn’t even written in, it could have been a joke added in by the animators. I think it’s safe to say they like trolling us too sometimes.
She probably at least glanced that way when the door opened-Squiggley doesn’t monofocus on food like RD or the Pie. And by the logic of sight-gag, you’d think a spit-take or hard swallow would’ve been involved were we ‘supposed’ to consider the plush iffy.
Because Pinkie yoinked her through the Fourth Wall and showed her the fandom’s projection of 21st-century paranoia upon their interactions? Sure can’t surmise anything else.
Obviously it’s just a gag, like I said. But still 4 years in at this point I’m pretty sure these writers also know how this fandom makes a big deal out of everything and probably expects to see everything read into, even simple visual jokes. I’d be shocked if at least sometimes they don’t do things like this just to see the response.
@gorkspewdium
Well, since they didn’t actually show it we don’t know if she actually saw it or paid attention or not, she could have been eating or something. And why would she complain about him?
@FloydPinkerton
Also, gotta love how our “deep thought” trumps the character in question’s utter lack of response. Whatever Squiggley thinks of Spike, she’s had four seasons to complain about him.
That’s just the thing. We’re not supposed to think about it more deeply. But fans do.
For the plushes, there’s a big difference between sleeping with a generic stuffed animal or plush of a fictional character of something to a toy version of a real person you actually know, and knowingly have a crush on even more. I get its just a joke and it was a cute one (Spike’s just a little kid) but I’ve even seen some Sparity shippers agree it’s a little creepy when you think on it more deeply.
‘Actual compatibility’ is such a subjective thing from person to person I’ve never seen much point in stressing it anyway. Oh, and please repeat the “sleeping with plushies is creepy lel” line to everybrone & pegasis who’s ever had one customized. Besides that one Lyra with the extras, natch.
Of course they do. I’m just saying that making Spike and Rarity the same age or closer in age wouldn’t validate Sparity any more. If one was seriously trying to argue in favor of it in terms of actual compatibility. Because obviously, if it’s just for liking two characters together, some people are happy to ship pairs that have never even met or that don’t even exist in the same canons. Anybody can ship for shipping’s sake. Not saying there’s anything wrong with either.
As if the family’s actual marshmallow needed more psych issues on top of all that parental abandonment.
As if peeps don’t play the “nuthin’ in common” or “opposites attract~” cards re: every ship they argue for/against.
Because sleeping with a Rarity doll isn’t creepy for him to do. Lol.
What be creepy for Spike.