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Blilzstar: Captien Prince Shining Armor a put me in charge, this is punishent for a forget abort it! still some of you still want try me?  
all newby guard: No Ma’am!  
Blilzstar: Good!  
Flash sentry: What is goin on?(he see the guard be stook) Again!  
Blilzstar: Oh Captien Flash sentry, can give this to Captien Prince Shininh Armor!  
Flash sentry: of course…why is this idiot a not learn it?  
Scootaloo: Maybe is be a Idiot stop him to learn?  
Blilzstar&Flash:…………  
Scootaloo: What?!  
Blilzstar: No is nothing, i am sure he will finaly get it!  
Scootaloo: If he dont?  
Flash sentry: Well we a no choice to set him kinpost!  
all guard stop moving alter flash it.  
Scootaloo: Why all guard a stop and be scare?  
Blilzstar: Is the worst post ever, even Idiot like him will learn, the Captien who is in charge is a real hell.  
Flash sentry: Not one guards wish to be on his comment and all the training ground is like hell if you compare of those we use!  
Scootaloo: If i become Guard, will Follow Oder to not be set on place!(she shake of fear but try her best to not show it)  
Blilzstar: ….Now excuse me i got some newby to make ready, Bye Little Girl and Bye Flash sentry..have fun with your Princess .hehehehe!  
Flash sentry: (he roll his eye of it, she not the first guard who tease him) Ok Scootaloo, Twilight looking for you and you dont want to be later to eat with Rainbow parent?  
Scootaloo: No and thanks for let me meet Miss Blilzstar, Rainbow a right , she is cool!  
Flash sentry: hehehe yeah, We both become Captien in the same day! We both succeed a lot mission for the Princess but be Sexualharassment is not the first time i see this in royal guard, is worst in the Night guards, Poor fool to messe with those Bat mare!  
Scootaloo: Are you make sure no guard stallion do this in the guards of ponyville?  
Flash Sentry: I do but some Moron still do it, But Dont worry, In the Wonderboth or the Royal guards, not everypony are stupid like this one…I dont want to the one who messe witn Captien Splitfire!  
Rainbow: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah!  
Scootaloo: Rainbow dash, you finish your wonderboth mission?  
Rainbow: yeah and i see this moron do Sexual harassment on Blilzstar and leason everything you say but man, doin Sexual harassment on Captien SplitFire?! HAHAHAHAHAHA, he good for the hospital!  
Flash Sentry: Were i still a newby, i see a moron doin this on Splitfire and Trust me, this is not pretty!  
Rainbow: Ok let stop talk of those Sexual harassment, and let ok to see my parents!(she take Scootaloo)  
Flash senrty: bye you two!
thps48
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@Thorned Rose Ninja  
The term I should have used was “woman’s rights activist”. And by should have used, I suppose I mean, would have used if I had the mind I have currently. God, time is stupid. XD
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@thps48  
It is called being an extremist. Extremists are bad no matter the cause they are fighting for. Feminists fight for gender equality for all, wannabe extremist feminists want to turn the patriarchy into a matriarchy where men are oppressed as a sort of revenge.
 
Denying feminism and calling it out for the latter is only hurting the slow grinding progress towards true equality.
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mfw when people don’t get that Feminists are fighting for gender equality.
No wonder we’re not there yet with all these idiots running around
 
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mfw when people don’t get that Feminists are fighting for gender equality.
 
No wonder we’re not there yet with all these idiots running around
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*Durgon Noises*
I keep seeing the word “Egalitarian” in the comments a lot. Could someone please tell me what the hell that word means? It’s driving me crazy!
Background Pony #5381
@Ertinax  
Well, I certainly disagree with you, but that’s that, huh?
 
I hold all of my positions, but since your interest is rather extinguished at this point, I’ll only say a couple of things. I still think that the data regarding the gender ratio is unreliable, and I still think it’s more likely to be even, especially given them being primarily monogamous. Again with the positions of power, we lack examples in general, so the jury is out there, but it’s a safe bet that there are more ponies, both mares and stallions, that are in positions of power that we don’t see because they haven’t become relevant to the shows storyline.
 
And, it’s worth remembering that the show is ultimately more focused on it’s female characters, because of the original target audience. Doesn’t mean it portrays one gender as superior, or more influential in Equestria’s society, but it can mean more screentime and thus development.
 
And yes, my apologies for using the word delusional, as that was perhaps insensitive, but I couldn’t think of another word to use.
 
Either way, I suppose we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I will say that you were attempting to extend to goalpost of the argument to egalitarianism in general, when in fact my argument only covered gender-egalitarianism, or in simpler terms just gender equality.
Ertinax

@Background Pony #80DD
 
“you’re very much delusional?” Hah. Well. I don’t think you know people who are actually delusional, those with diagnosed mental illness, or you’re using the term very liberally and not in the medical or legal context. No matter.
 
The facts remain the facts. If we do any quantitative analysis, we do see a population distribution that is more female than male, and if we look at positions of power, they are also heavily or entirely female. The alicorn issue is further muddied by “historic” alicorns in story, such as in the Valentines episode, where again the Princess is depicted in-episode as an alicorn and the male as a unicorn. We have no evidence that male alicorns can or ever have existed. In fact, what I try to do is to minimize assumption… so until, for example, we are told that there are female royal guards or that there can be female royal guards were are simply left with an all-male guard and to draw our own conclusions. My conclusion is that it is male-only by design and not male-only by coincidence or animation error. I’ll gladly adjust my view of things when the show makes the adjustment.
 
Equestria is, as we’ve seen, a stratified and hierarchical society with uneven levels of wealth and distribution of labor, further complicated by elements of biological determinism. It is further removed from being egalitarian because, since season one, it has become an ever closer reflection of our society - with all the negatives that come with it. This is not how we traditionally view an egalitarian society. But then, bear in mind that a utopian society need not be egalitarian.
 
Anyway. You seem emotionally invested in this. I can’t quite understand that. But to each their own. Consider my own interest in this topic expended.
Background Pony #5381
@Background Pony #80DD  
And just because this post wasn’t long enough, I’ll add a couple of extra points. Also, again, my apologies for being more blunt than I usually am.
 
You mentioned the idea of Equestria being a utopia… I don’t think it’s totally perfect, but I do think it’s a pretty benevolent and nice place. Friendship and love and other great positive values are held in very high regard there, and many of those values are actually tangible forces of magic. With all that in mind, plus the other things we’ve seen, I think it’s safe to say their society is pretty good-natured. Again, not perfect, but certainly pretty nice in general.
 
One thing to consider though, is the fantasy setting, which means magic and creatures that can be quite disruptive. On the other hand, problems are usually sorted out pretty quickly, and it seems like most of those potentially dangerous creatures like Manticores and Hydras tend to stay away from large population centers.
Background Pony #5381
@Ertinax  
That’s not a long post, THIS is a long post, haha.
 
We have very few examples of ponies in positions of political power, regardless of gender. There’s the princesses and princes, the mayor, and a few others, but otherwise you could probably count them on your fingers, or at least almost.
 
I did say you can technically say they have a matriarchal government, just not a matriarchal society. The matriarchal government thing would only really be at the top levels though, and it’s ultimately a technicality rather than a restriction, because the current alicorns are female. We don’t know much about the lower levels of government, so the jury is out there, but considering we’ve seen influential ponies of both genders everywhere else, I’d say it’s quite safe to assume that the government is also staffed by ponies of both genders.
 
I don’t think that gender would be relevant to who can become an alicorn either, so the simplest conclusion to reach is that the two best available candidates for ascension (not counting Celestia and Luna since they were apparently born alicorns, going by the books) just happened to be mares. Certainly, I think it’s safe to assume that the alicorns have their positions because they are the best suited individuals for the job, and that their gender is irrelevant. Starswirl would have likely become an alicorn, but, and I’m quoting Celestia here, he apparently didn’t properly understand the magic of friendship, which was critical.
 
Female royal guards likely exist, but DHX just hasn’t taken the time to create art assets for them. The core of the show is a lot of work, so not a surprise that they’d slack in creating art assets for the details like that.
 
Speaking of art assets… the gender ratio? That’s still quite the matter of debate, in reality. Background pony crowds are filled with clones and generally DHX doesn’t bother with them so much, so there’s no way you can call them a reliable source of data for any sort of census. The gender ratio could easily be even, and considering the ponies are primarily monogamous like us, I’m going to assume that it is. Or at the very least, MUCH closer to even than what some people seem to believe.
 
I’m sorry to be blunt, and this whole post is a bit more aggressive than usual, but you’re very much delusional if you think that there is “much less evidence for it being egalitarian”. We’ve had a whole four and counting seasons to observe Equestria, limited as our window may be, and just about everything we’ve seen points towards it being pretty egalitarian in that regard. Not just the lack of direct discrimination, but also the fact that there are plenty of ponies of both genders who are influential in Equestria’s society, economy, and so on. Also the fact that you can see both mares and stallions with just about all sorts of careers.
 
Meanwhile, the notion that it’s a matriarchy has little to no real evidence. A matriarchal government is again something you can definitely argue for, but a matriarchal society is a seperate thing, especially with the particular definition of a matriarchal government that I’m referring to. I’ve seen no reason to believe they have a matriarchal society.
 
But while I certainly don’t buy the whole matriarchy idea, and I firmly believe there’s far more reason to think it’s gender-egalitarian, you can headcanon whatever. I will say that it being anything other than mildly matriarchal is simply quite incompatible with the canon, so the idea that it could somehow be ‘intensely matriarchal’ is nonsensical. It seems quite clear that they have a good level of gender-equality, but if you want to headcanon that they’re mildly matriarchal regardless, then suit yourself.
Ertinax

@Background Pony #80DD
 
You’re right in that we’ve seen no signs of systemic discrimination, yet we have and do see signs of segregation and stratification that can be viewed through gender lines.
 
A real world example:  
We see that there is an overwhelmingly large number of white/black/asian/whatever men in positions of power in X. Though there may be no institutional discrimination going on, we typically and nonetheless conclude that there is de facto rather than de jure causes that result in this imbalance in representation. Biological determinism is generally dismissed as well (men innately prefer this, women innately prefer that) for certain reasons, when talking about social roles, though with an alien society and population this is a big assumption.
 
Given the above, the fact is that two years on, we still haven’t seen any males in positions of political power (all four Princesses are female, though we did get some second-tier males to do with Blueblood in Equestria Games). Instead, we see them in security roles, as recently as the return of Sheriff Silver Star in Appleoosa.
 
We also have yet to see a female royal guard, to my knowledge.
 
While there is only superficial evidence that it is matriarchal (analysis of political hierarchy, the observed gender ratio), there is even less evidence that it is egalitarian. Only giving Equestria the benefit of the doubt, which is less appealing now than in season one when it was a common fanon belief that it was a utopia. Really, it could be intensely matriarchal and we’d never know since it isn’t a theme that needs exploring in the context of the story.
 
Feh, what a long post.
Background Pony #5381
@Ertinax  
Oh boy, replying to a 2 year old comment, how exciting.
 
There’s little to no basis for the notion that their society is female dominated, as well. From what we’ve seen Equestria is gender-egalitarian, not matriarchal or patriarchal. There’s simply no indication of one gender being advantaged over the other, socially or economically. We’ve seen both mares and stallions doing all sorts of stuff, and both genders seem equally influential in Equestria’s society. There’s no sign of gender-based discrimination.
 
You can argue that they have a matriarchal government, since the current lineup of alicorns is female, but their society? All evidence seems to point towards it being gender-egalitarian.
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She’s hot. Totally hot. If i were that guy who slapped her, i were saying something like this:“Man, i’m totally fall in love!”