Maybe I was looking at different concept art leaks than you, but how exactly were the old plans to redesign Twi as an earth pony, Pinkie as a pegasus, and Flutters as a unicorn a sign of Hasbro concedeing to “social justice bullshit”? I think these redesigns were focused more on introducing a new spin on characters that the writers were clearly running out of ideas for, rather than somehow trying to score points.

I agree though that the issue here is Hasbro often getting caught up on tge superficial details of the characters rather than the actual depth of the character (Flutters being a unicorn instead of a pegasus likely has no effect on her personality or worldview) but I hardly think that can be pawned off entirely on “social justice bullshit”.

The Gen 5 we did end up getting is definitely worse than gen 4 in terms of both story and characters, with the possible exception of Izzy and Hitch, but we shouldn’t assume that a continuation of G4 would really have survived any of the same declines in quality. G4 was already showing degradation in its themes by its last few seasons when characters inceasingly began to treat friendship as some nebulous concept instead of the physical interaction and genuine bond between characters in the earlier seasons. A reimagining of the G4 setting could have helped alleviate this issue by allowing the story and characters to recalibrate themselves back to when friendship was a more complex yet practical component of ponies lives. This could’ve allowed writers to tell stories about Daybreaker and Chrysalis that weren’t held back by needing to be twenty minute short stories with an aesop’s and marketing gimmick shoved in at the end. I guess we’ll never know though…

@Scorpion
Conservatives conserve, and a fascist dictates; the meaning behind each term can usually be summed up nicely within the first half of that said word; try to pay attention to the language we’ve all agreed upon. Progressives progress, but to what and where? Progressive implies that they have a destination in mind.

This message was intended for Queen_Chrysi, or whatever his name is.

@Queen_Chrysi
You must be really dimwitted if you think a Conservative equals a fascist. Go read a book mate. Inform yourself before you speak such bullshit.

Typical Conservative dribble. Go away fascist.

@xombiekilla
Same thing with me. I had pretty much commented on the gen 5 early concept leaks of the redesign of the main six that it was idiotic to change them and “reimagine” them. Why throw away such great potential for a shitty looking gen 5 that basically brings the whole “social justice” bullshit into a show. Its not even shooting yourself in the foot, but more taking the shotgun in the mouth and firing, while wondering how gunpowder tastes. What I mean is that it was so easily predictable even back than, that it would flop hard.

Alone the horrible character design is a reason for why I personally never going to forgive hasbro. So many fandom artists showed how easy it is to fix them to at least make them look like actual ponies rather than the next little petshop series.

@Scorpion
They’ve had way too many characters that they’ve just wasted for nothing that had so much potential. Their success was like a gravy train that never ran out; they knew that; clearly, the numbers don’t lie. They were making so much profit off of Gen 4 alone; for an understandable reason, everyone loved the characters.

Essentially, this transition to gen 5 was not only a big middle finger to their fanbase, but it’s also, in a way, them shooting themselves in the foot. It just doesn’t make any sense why they’d do this. There were plenty of characters they could have worked off of, and that would have been fine.

I hate to say this, but I saw this coming ever since I first heard about the idea of a Gen 5 with the redesigned concepts for Twilight and the Mane 6. Somebody better pick up that phone cause I fucking called it.

@xombiekilla
yeah for example she could have probably filled plenty of episodes. Just having a different viewpoint for the villains would be sick. Alone the time before gen 4 when Luna was turning into nightmare moon first. Thats a point in time I am interested in.

@Scorpion
Yeah, like maybe an origin to Chrysalis.

Amazing, Beautiful, Especially the stars in her wings

@xombiekilla
agreed. Alone each villain of gen 4 could have had a new show in the same artstyle (call it spin off) and we would have watched the shit out of it.

Gen5 with its wokeness just cant compete with the genius that was gen 4s stories.

@Derwol
Agreed. Hasbro does pretty much everything wrong at this point. They should go back to making toys because animation clearly isn’t their thing. I don’t know if anybody has ever told them this, but there’s more to a good show than just stellar visuals. All they’re doing is flexing their l33t animating skills right after murdering the most successful cash grab they’ve ever had. In my humble opinion, there will never be anything better than Gen 4.

The show didn’t do nearly enough with Daybreaker. What a sad waste.

Way to go with such a first picture on derpibooru!

Badass bad mares