@The Smiling Pony  

 
This.
 
I just wanted t post a funny meme my friend showed me ;w;

Remember when this image was about making some levity out of how big corporations drop the rainbow iconography the instant pride month is over?
 
Christ.

@Macaroni C-Pony  
Your first video isn’t the debate, in which he literally told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by”; so there is one lie. Next, the video you linked literally has him lying and equating the left to the Nazis who attacked and killed a protester.
 
That’s two lies.

@Background Pony #B5B5
 
How about you watch the full video and read the comments to hear the context
 
 
TWO LIES

@SilverTongue  
That link is series of blogs by NBC, my friend. I don’t know who Jason Abbruzzese is, but he seems very misunderstood:  
Given Trump had literally done the EXACT opposite at that very same debate
 
 
So that’s one lie

@Macaroni C-Pony  
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/us/domestic-terrorist-groups.html

@Macaroni C-Pony  

If by “every time” you mean belatedly and half heartedly. And we ignore that whole “good people on both sides” comment where one of the sides was an actual full fledged group of white supremacists.
 
 
@Macaroni C-Pony  

I can promise you, he absolutely didn’t.

@Macaroni C-Pony  
Oh please, Trump balked and dragged his feet at every chance to denounce White supremacy and tried characterizing BLM and Antifa as a bigger problem,including after Charlottesville and the presidential debate:
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/first-presidential-debate-trump-biden-n1241282/ncrd1241493
 
This is why I really don’t want to engage, because you’re so full of shit that it makes engaging you a waste of time.

@SilverTongue  
If your “done, fam” why are you still replying without citing your sources?
 
Show me where you got your information

@SilverTongue  
I don’t like Trump, but last time I researched, he disavowed “white supremacy” every time he got the chance AND has done more for the black community than you’d even WANT to claim as “false”
 
You can’t disprove my “lies” or “claims” if you DON’T engage, so drop the self-righteous act and cite your sources, because I will start citing mine

@Eggonaught  
“Acting horribly to people” = negating them the use of platforms that do not belong to them every time they want to use them to discriminate, dehumanize or attack vulnerable communities.
 
Also, all terrorist attacks in 2018 were perpetrated by Right wing terrorists, according to the FBI and the SPLC. So it’s far from “imagined”.

@Macaroni C-Pony  
So to recap:
 
“Nazism and White supremacy don’t exist or aren’t a problem despite what the FBI says”
 
“Antifa and BLM are the real problem and are killing people”
 
“The real violence and discrimination is the one straight people and conservatives are experiencing”
 
Yeah, I’m done fam.

@SilverTongue  
I think this speaks for itself, honestly. No, the “LGBT community” is not under threat by a giant government conspiracy of secret moon nazis. When you’re arresting people for leaving tire marks on a rainbow crosswalk, you have total cultural hegemony to the point you need to imagine threats to justify acting so horribly to people.
 
And this kind of obnoxious behavior is why so many people get turned off by your messaging.  
It sucks more to be gay now than in the 90s, because I have to reassure everyone I’m not some joyless commissar like all these hate-spewing “activists”.

@Macaroni C-Pony  
Trump helped mainstream Nazism, hampered efforts to combat Right wing terrorism, tried to crack down on anti-fascist protestors and even had one extra-judicially executed. But off you go with your lies.
 
Like I said, I’m not going to engage in a serious argument with someone who is willfully ignorant at best, or a bad faith actor trying to uphold bigotry and discrimination at worst.

@SilverTongue  
Oh My God… what does Trump have to do with anything?
 
I don’t give a damn about what the FBI or CIA say when Antifa and BLM are literally burning down and killing people since 2019 in Chicago, Seattle, Minneapolis, Atlanta, New York, And Detroit
 
Have you been to these cities?

@Eggonaught  
If listening to the entities in charge of monitoring these threats is equated to “propaganda”, as opposed to listening to actual verifiable propaganda outlets (Fox News, Breitbart, OAN, Newsmax) then I’ll declare myself guilty as charged.
 
Then again, I do get out and I’ve seen the overton window shift as a result of the efforts of these people to mainstream Nazism. You will find a hard time trying to gaslight me into ignoring reality.

@SilverTongue  
Can you imagine if I made the same recommendation?
 
What if I were to assume you were “Alt left Communist Marxist terrorist” and started telling people on this site to stop talking to you because I don’t agree with you?
 
Is that not what you assumed about me and my arguments?

@SilverTongue  
You really, really need to get out more, my friend, and stop reading propaganda.

@Eggonaught  
Both the FBI and SPLC agree that Right wing domestic terrorism has been on the rise for quite a while, and spiked under Trump’s presidency; with many bad faith actors in his administration, including Trump himself, undertaking efforts to hamper the government’s ability to fight said threat. This even includes two FBI reports of efforts by Neonazis and White supremacists to infiltrate law enforcement (which are dated 2004 and 2015 I believe).
 
Whether or not you agree with them is irrelevant, it does not cease to be reality whatever your arguments are.

@Eggonaught  
I second this. Are we going back to 1950’s where bigotry and Omni-phobia was the norm?
 
It’s been “decreasing” since the 90’s! Not erased, yes, but really?

@SilverTongue  

 
Can you hear yourself? What part of any of this is true, in any way?

@Macaroni C-Pony  
I am allowed to make a recommendation based on my own observations, just as they are allowed to observe, and agree or disagree with me. I also find it ironic that you are concerned about what is “unfair” to you, whilst minimizing what amounts to an ever increasing, observable and quantifiable threat to LGBT people and other vulnerable communities. But off you go, I guess.

@The Smiling Pony  
If he gets to deflect all criticism with “are people killed for being straight yet?!!”, things can just keep getting more ridiculous forever. So what’s the goal?

@SilverTongue  
As long as you don’t tell OTHER people not to engage, because that would be unfair to me

@Macaroni C-Pony  
Cool story bro. But I don’t engage with people who can’t even agree on an observable reality that is smacking them in the face, either because of their own willful ignorance or vested interest.