Having trouble? Well, allow me to measure up Rainbow’s lesbianness with the patented Total Drama Lesbian Chart…  
 
It appears Rainbow goes between ‘Lesbian’ and ‘Dangerously Lesbian’!

I think that Ponies don’t have such concepts like Straight, Bisexual, Homosexual or whatever. If you love someone you love him. No matter if it is a mare or a stallion.

To be honest, it’s basically just because she’s rainbow colored and a tomboy.
 
 
Also people tend to portray the mane six like they’re a bunch of nymphomaniacs.

She’s Fluttersexual. The fact that Fluttershy’s a mare is inconsequential.

@candrew  
Applauds  
You, sir, are a genius.  
No, really. I’m not being sarcastic at all.  
I mean it. You expressed your opinion in a well thought out and logical form.  
And as a point supporting your argument, very few species in nature mate for life. Most of these species can afford to, by having either a high birth rate and/or a large population of both genders. ‘A Canterlot Wedding’, and numerous other episodes imply that monogamous marriages are more than just common, they are the societal norm. Marriage is basically our take on mating for life. Ergo, ponies either have an almost miraculous birth rate, or the gender disparity means absolutely nothing compared to the sheer number of ponies there are. Seeing as Mr and Mrs Cake have only Pumpkin and Pound shows that the birth rate isn’t profoundly high, possibly closer to our own, ruling out that possibility. This, paired with the fact that Monogamy is the most accepted, leads us to believe we just aren’t seeing the Stallions that are there.

Looking at this conversation, I think we can safely agree that neither of us is in any danger of having their mind changed. That said, it was interesting to hear your point of view even if I disagree with it. Have a nice day Sjogre.

@Sjogre  
No I brought up the stallions from Hearts and Hooves to prove they existed. You said that stallions were rare, I said they found a bunch of them with minimal effort in a short time period who also fit the criteria of being dateless. That was the only point I had, relationships weren’t really a factor. Anything after that was in response to you bringing it up, which lead to my point about scarcity. It appears we both got caught in the responding to what the other guy was saying.
 
 
Also, no they don’t have enough males on screen, and claiming that they use scenarios that don’t make sense doesn’t change that. This is Equestria, with weddings, special someponies, and love being powerful enough to defeat a full scale invasion. They put high prioritization on interpersonal feelings. They have weddings, and ‘Hearts and Hooves’ rejected a suitable pony on grounds of him already dating. This isn’t a herd society. It is not one that utilizes sperm banks or one night stands to keep the population up.
 
I didn’t say that female population is high to sell toys. I said female screen time is high to sell toys. That’s where the Rarity fabric comparison was going. Rarity makes dresses, so she obviously buys fabric, and yet we have one scene of it, because there is no point to showing many such scenes. Saying that a male disparity exists because they aren’t shown is equally as nonsensical. They also don’t mention that trees take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen, but I’m willing to bet that they do.

@candrew
 
If there weren’t any males being show, you’d have an argument about them being hidden somewhere. But they are shown. There’s just less mails than females. That’s it. There’s more than enough to provide for reproduction, even with the gender imbalance. There are less males than females, but that doesn’t mean that ponies are running out of guys.
 
I’m sorry if I expressed myself badly, but my point has been that ponies have enough males to reproduce with the ones seen on screen. Claiming that there are more off screen is an attempt to fix a situation that isn’t broken, and has no proof.
 
To continue a metaphor that you yourself started, we’ve seen the fabric stores that Rarity goes to. We haven’t seen Rarity herself shopping at one, and there might not be as many as one might expect, but there are enough to satisfy all the customers.
 
Everything I’ve said about relationships is in response to something you said. You brought up the unattached stallions from Hearts & Hooves Day, claiming that their status as bachelors meant that there was no gender imbalance. I said that it just meant that they weren’t able to get a date even with a large population of females. You brought up a bunch of rarely seen male background ponies. At the time, I thought that you were saying that they were also dateless. If that wasn’t your point, I apologize for misunderstanding you. I said, or meant at least meant to say, that their absence the Find a Stallion song implied that they were dating. I also mentioned that they don’t change the gender imbalance that much, and that the imbalance is part of the setting. You said that the imbalance wasn’t an important part of the setting, and that if it was, there wouldn’t be any unattached stallions hanging around. I agreed that the imbalance wasn’t as important as I initially stated, and asked why you thought a gender imbalance would automatically result in the rarer gender ending up in a relationship. I specifically meant a romantic, Hearts & Hooves kind of relationship, but I may have been unclear. You said scarcity of economics would result in them being snapped up quickly. I responded that basing a relationship around reproduction was not a good basis for a healthy, long term relationship, then listed a number of ways that reproduction could work with the gender imbalance, without imprisoning the male like I thought that you were suggesting. Then you accused me of bringing it up when I only responded to you. If someone says something to me, I respond. You said stuff, I responded. I apologize if my comments seemed random.
 
You’ve said that the female population is high to sell toys. I don’t deny that. But it still means that the female population is high, and that the male population is low, without anything shown anywhere that changes that.

@Sjogre  
I haven’t brought up relationships since I mentioned the song from ‘Hearts and Hooves Day’ as evidence of unattached males. Since then you’ve brought it up repeatedly in what I can only assume is an effort to prove that they don’t count for some reason.
 
Basic common sense indicates that if they have a decent sized population, and they aren’t purposely killing one gender while having huge families, then there isn’t a male shortage.
 
Show demographics are why there aren’t many males shown. That’s really it, there is no other reason.
 
Also, Transformers are robots who don’t reproduce through traditional means. Females aren’t necessary to their existence. Ponies, both sexes are, thus there are enough male ponies to keep the species going. They aren’t critical to the plot, they don’t sell toys, so they aren’t shown. Also missing are scenes of Rarity buying fabric to make her dresses.

@candrew
 
I’ve only been talking about relationships because you keep bringing it up. Making a baby requires a male and a female, but that doesn’t mean that the male sticks around or is exclusive. Having existed for untold thousands of years means that pony society has had plenty of time to figure out how to deal with the gender imbalance.
 
Show demographics are irrelevant. What is shown is what is shown, nothing more, nothing less. We’ve seen more females than males, be they just standing around or working, that means that there are more females than males. The outside reasoning is no longer relevant, because the setting has been made. While the series was made to sell toys, and I have no idea of whether or not the male ponies sell well, that does not mean or even vaguely imply that there are a bunch of dudes hiding just off screen.
 
Transformers toys are mostly masculine, which results in Cybertron having a mostly masculine population. My Little Pony toys are mostly female? So be it, Equestria is mostly female. That decision has been made.

I think the G1 males sold pretty okay, but I digress.
 
Just cause you don’t see them, doesn;t mean they don;t exist. Maybe lots of stallions and colts prefer staying inside their houses?

@Sjogre  
No, it means that they don’t show the males on screen. I’m not talking about relationships, I’m talking basic biology and I honestly don’t know where you got hung up on relationships. A baby pony needs at least one male and one female to make. Since this is a kids show, the males aren’t forming herds. There exists a healthy population, all of which sprang from a mother/father pair, and since Equestria civilization is more than a thousand years old, this has apparently been happening for generations. I see no reason to assume that there is a lack of males being born, just a lack of males being shown, and the reason they aren’t shown is simple.
 
They don’t show them on screen because girls don’t want to see them so they don’t sell toys, which is why they cancelled the male My Little Pony toy lines the first time.
 
This is a show designed to sell toys, that’s where the season two finale came from, that’s why they censored Derpy. Things that don’t sell toys, or threaten the ability of Hasbro to sell toys due to controversy, are not something they’re willing to allow. Its really that simple.

@Firelord  
No it doesn’t. You seem to imply that lesbianism is the only alternative to a healthy heterosexual relationship. There is also this thing called chastity.

Anybody else think that maybe they don’t find sex pleasurable, and look at it as a necessity? I mean, humans are the only animal (other than dolphins) that copulate recreationally in the real world. Maybe that carries over. Of course, that’s not nearly as much fun.

Sigh.

You know, It’s kind of unavoidable to have some of the characters being lesbian, considering most of the population is female.

@candrew
 
We do see males. We do see that there are less males than females. That shows an imbalance in the gender ratios. That isn’t implied, it is shown on screen. Even if it was mandated by a toy company, that doesn’t change that there are more females than males. Whatever the out-of-universe reason for that aspect of the setting, the gender imbalance is there now.
 
I don’t think that Hasbro actually said to not put dudes onscreen, but doesn’t really change anything at this point.
 
Needing a male to make a baby isn’t the foundation of a long term relationship. Not a healthy one, anyway.
 
You do realize that rather than being too precious to leave single, males could also be too precious to be allowed exclusivity, right? I did mention stud services in a previous post. There’s also a very real possibility that mares simply share stallions and don’t like to talk about it. Real life horses split one stallion between several mares, after all. Or they could use sperm banks, like humans would in a similar situation, since humans generally treat other humans as people instead of baby-making possession.
 
Well, outside of very dark stories, anyway.

@Sjogre  
I didn’t say that not seeing males implied that they existed, I said not seeing them doesn’t really imply they don’t. Little girls are still the target for this show no matter how big a splash we made. That is the reason there are few male characters. They also occasionally don’t have all the main characters in an episode they avoid having pay their voice actors.
 
I mentioned that they wouldn’t be single for the very simple reason they’d be too precious to be single. Scarcity creates demand, and for things that society needs to survive, such as members of the opposite sex getting together with some regularity, that demand becomes immense very quickly.
 
And yes, the point about them all working made no real sense, kind of like them not existing at all.
 
I can guarantee that every mare regardless of age we have seen had a father, I see no reason to assume that this generation suddenly skewed the gender curve so much that males are a rarity.

@candrew
 
Alright, the gender disparity isn’t an important part of the setting, as not everything revolves around snagging a guy. It is still a part, however far in the background it may be.
 
How does a gender disparity mean that everyone of the rarer gender will automatically end up in a relationship? Unless they all have an overpowering need to have children, personality compatibility and what not should still apply. Even if they really want babies, they’d just get pregnant and go back to avoiding the guy.
 
Why does not seeing males imply that they exist? We haven’t seen as many males as we have females, even in the crowd scenes where dozens of toyless, and therefore unsellable, characters appear. If they are busy working, where are they working? With the exception of the Royal Guard, every time we’ve seen a workplace it has at least as many females as males. We’ve also seen that the mares on screen do have jobs, so what kind of job do the guys have that is keeping them shackled off screen?

@Sjogre  
Actually, ignoring that does nothing. It plays no part in the interactions among the main characters, who outside of Rarity and Spike have no interest in romance, it has no bearing on pony reproduction as Baby Cakes showed a fair amount of newborns for a village Ponyville’s size, and if it were an issue, even those stallions in ‘Hearts and Hooves Day’ wouldn’t have been available, especially Big Mac who would be quite the catch apparently.
 
I mentioned the song solely because it demonstrated that they could find a bunch of unattached stallions with minimal effort very quickly, I mentioned the others because we have no knowledge on way or the other on their relationship status. They don’t give screen time to stallions because they don’t sell toys nearly as well, that’s all there is to it. While I suppose you could argue that this means they don’t exist, I could make an equally plausible argument that they don’t get seen much because they’re busy working all the time.
 
On a side note, I agree with you on Sweetie/Spike. Beyond the whole ‘She’s just like a little Rarity’ thing a lot of its fans seem to espouse, I just can’t see Spike being as young as the CMC.

@candrew
 
Those stallions were, presumably, attached. You brought up the unattached ones from Hearts & Hooves because you were trying to say that that proved genders were in parity, which it really doesn’t.
 
We do see males working in the construction crew and at the bowling alley. We also see females there, so that alters the gender ratio little, if at all.
 
Regardless of the reason, Equestria has been shown to have significantly more females than males. It’s canon. How it affects Equestrian society hasn’t really been addressed, so it is a place that can use exploring. Ignoring that ignores part of the setting.
 
Incidentally, I’m not really into shipping and don’t have any kind of headcanon about it. I don’t really mind what sexualities people attribute to the characters, but I do think that people tend to take it too seriously.
 
About the only shipping thing that bugs me is insisting that Sweetie Belle should be shipped with Spike. Everything about that ship is either a little or a lot skeezy.

@Sjogre  
There were twelve that we were shown during the scope of a brief song. Not shown males include the construction crew from MMDW, which was predominately male, the bowling ponies based off the Big Lebowski from ‘Cutie Pox’, or even all of the male background ponies that have shown up throughout the series limited though that number may be. They tend to not show them because they don’t sell as well, that’s absolutely no reason to think they don’t exist, especially since ponies have to come from some where..
 
My point still stands, the female population is high to sell toys. Like you said, that’s the way MLP has always run. If your fanon is that Dash and the others are gay/bisexual because of situational reasons, that’s fine, but don’t expect anyone to take you seriously.

@candrew
 
In all honesty, I’d be more weirded out by a MLP project with even gender representation than a project with no males at all. One of the franchise’s hallmarks is having almost exclusively female characters, and that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
 
Actual horse populations have more females than males, anyway. Has to do with horse behavior.
 
Anyway….
 
The unattached stallions from Hearts & Hooves were shown to be unattached because all but one of them were unappealing. There were also still more females than males hanging around. The Crusaders were also specifically looking for males on that occasion, which means that they were going into the corners of Ponyville looking for them, not that there are actually tons of guys lurking just off camera. All that shows is that the mares have standards, not that the genders are in parity.
 
Also, there were twelve. Twelve dateless dudes in all of Ponyville. Including Mr. Waddle, Time Turner, and Big Mac.

@Sjogre  
You’d think they were trying to sell toys to little girls or something with all the female characters they have. They had a song in ‘Hearts and Hooves Day’ about how they have a lot of unattached males in Ponyville, the only reason they don’t show up more often is that this is a show designed to sell toys.
 
On a more on topic note, Rainbow Dash (like all characters who aren’t married, Spike, or Rarity) is an asexual. She has shown no interest in romance, and is unlikely to ever do so. If she does, it will be in a member of the opposite sex.

Yeah? well I like shipping Rainbowpie and there’s nothing you can do about it so NYEH!