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cloudkicker108
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday

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@TexasUberAlles  
Applejack and Twilight might be debatable, but Pinkie had an upper hoof on Dash entirely because of her Pinkie Sense. Even if Dash’s failures were largely the result of her own poor decisions, that still doesn’t change the fact the mane 6 were seemingly overlooking the very factor that spurred them to action in the first place. It should have been obvious to them that Dash would never consider blaming herself whenever Mare Do Well proves to be a better hero than her, especially given how inflated her ego already was.
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@cloudkicker108  
because Pinkie, Twilight, and Applejack had abilities that Dash did not
 
None of it required any kind of extraordinary abilities she didn’t already possess, she was just too busy being amazed by herself to actually use them. Cherry Berry nearly crashed because Dash was signing autographs instead of flying up and catching her; the tourist wagon nearly crashed because Dash spent so long introducing herself that the passengers were calling her out on it; Dash only saved one construction worker because she applied her talent for self-aggrandizement to the situation rather than her talent for clearing the entire sky in 10.00s; the dam broke because Dash was literally patting herself on the back rather than holding it together and calling for help.
cloudkicker108
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday

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@rdibp  
Also a good point.
 
@TexasUberAlles  
The whole point of them resorting to drastic actions was because Dash had her head way too high in the clouds. They should have understood that the only thing Dash would have taken away from seeing somepony outperform her isn’t a lesson in humility but new competition in town. And when they had the chance to explain to her the humbleness that Mare Do Well was displaying, they end up completely blow it and only making Dash more agitated. I am well aware RD usually learns by drastic actions, but that doesn’t her emotions need to be toyed with in the process.
 
Whether or not she was showing off or not, rdibp’s point still remains. That move only served to make Dash feel even more inferior against Mare Do Well. Nothing about it evoked any sense of humility.
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@cloudkicker108  
the way the mane six went about doing that was needlessly cruel
 
No, it really was not; they put on a costume and performed some civic-minded rescues. That’s it. Rainbow Dash was the only asshole in the episode, and she got over it, thanks to her friends giving her a lesson in what has been solidly, canonically established as the only way she is capable of learning lessons.
 
@rdibp  
Fluttershy’s only purpose in being Mare Do Well WAS TO SHOW OFF
 
At no point did she “show off”; all she ever did in costume was… fly by in a straight line. The point of her being part of the caper was to keep Dash from falling back on “Well at least I can fly”– which is in fact exactly what she was doing when Flutter Do Well buzzed her– and falling even further into insufferable smugness.
cloudkicker108
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday

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@Durabiznik  
While drastic measures might have to be taken, openly upsetting them isn’t necessarily the only solution. I understand Rainbow needing to be knocked down a peg, but the way the mane six went about doing that was needlessly cruel. Not only do they subtlely imply humility through Mare Do Well to an individual already established as hard headed (they should have known all Dash would pick up from that is somepony one-upping her), but they also muddle their point during the Sugarcube Corner party. Although they do bring up Mare Do Well’s humbleness, the message quickly gets lost when they start making fun of RD for for her supposed jealously of MDW, despite her being visibly upset.
Durabiznik

@TexasUberAlles
They were well aware Mare Do Well’s constant outdoing of Rainbow Dash was making RD more and more frustrated.
 
That was the idea. When your friend won’t listen to reason because they let their ego get the best of them (and because they just generally aren’t the kind of person who will sit down and have a rational discussion about an issue they’re convinced doesn’t even exist), you might need to do something that will upset them in order to make them look at the whole thing from a different angle.
 
The issue was that doing good isn’t about you, or the bragging rights, nor should it ever become a competition, and after the true nature of MMDW was revealed, Rainbow was finally in the state of mind to look back and understand that. Sometimes being a good friend means hurting someone a little in order to avoid them being hurt a lot in the future, rather than pretending everything is fine to avoid a conflict. Imagine Rainbow’s ego trip went on unchecked, with her convincing herself that the safety of everyone in Ponyville is her responsibility and hers alone, and then one day someone inevitably got badly hurt or died. What do you think that would do to her, what with the already mentioned glass jaw confidence of hers?
 
@Background Pony #CBFC  
Case in point for what I said here.
cloudkicker108
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday

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@TexasUberAlles  
They were well aware Mare Do Well’s constant outdoing of Rainbow Dash was making RD more and more frustrated. And while they did lead her into a more secluded area for the big reveal, Dash would have unmasked Mare Do Well even in the presence of the public.
TexasUberAlles
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@Background Pony #CBFC  
fullfull
 
@cloudkicker108  
they nearly destroyed her self-confidence just to teach her a lesson about humility
 
No, they never did that. Any ball-tripping she did was out of their view until she ragequit the after-party at Sugarcube Corner, and their next play was to lead her on a merry chase through Ponyville until they got her someplace out of public view to reveal the wacky caper. AJ and Twilight and Old Yeller didn’t need to all show up in costume for the event, they only did it for the big reveal.
Background Pony #60A2
The problems with mare do well were not about the moral of the story, even if RD deserved all the braggings rights.  
Just the fact that the other mane 5 decided to stalk her 24/7 in order to steal all the credits she could receive by helping other ponies is utterly retarded on it’s own. Like the fact that they were so butthurt about the fact that RD was actually saving lives and shit, and being proud of it.
cloudkicker108
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday

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Her realization that she’d been an ass was real and unforced
 
She literally went from furious enough to physically confront Mare Do Well to apologetic within a minute or two.
 
And that Wacky Scheme™! That was vintage Twilight Sporkhole! Her go-to solution for any situation she can’t solve by quoting trivia at it is to concoct a wildly inappropriate caper
 
An explainable decision does not indicate it was a good decision. For instance, Starlight’s motivations as a villain can be explained in part by her past, but I think we can all agree the inception of Our Town was a bad idea.
 
The storyboarding and directing were just aces from top to bottom, with fast-paced action scenes and seriously thrilling and exciting calamities; the collapsing building was like a nerve-wracking level from a video game, and the whitewater log ride was a whiteknuckle seat-of-the-couch ride that looked exactly like actual Black Diamond rafting footage. The music throughout was also top work, going full Elfman/Walker during all the MDW scenes.
 
Nice rose-tinted glasses you have there. Because while those aspects certainly weren’t bad, I’ve yet to meet anyone else who thinks they were the pinnacle of perfection that you believe they are. Not even other individuals who liked the episode have made claims as audacious as yours. More importantly, though, none of that serves as an excuse to handwave the story, which at best has confusing logic and at worse makes a mockery of the remane 5.
 
Bucky McGillicutty and Kicks McGee was one of the funniest gorram things the show has ever done, it was just so dumb and funny and total Applejack, and the way Cherry Berry tried to get back at Dash for almost letting her get gibbed in the busted balloon by “accidentally” dropping a rainbow-seeking potted plant out of an upstairs window was subtly brilliant. That was the second occurrence of Pinkie Sense in the episode, marking one of the earliest S1 callback continuity moments.
 
I agree those small details are nice touches, but they’re supposed to complement the story, not make up for it.
 
MMDW had everything that makes a great episode— action, drama, pathos, growth and development, continuity, goofy gags and subtle comedy, great design and animation— and for a new writer, was a brilliantly insightful look at the inner workings of a character who’s very easy to get wrong.
 
Again, you really should take off those rose-tinted glasses. Right now you’re ignoring all the not so stellar elements of the episode. Need I remind you they taunted Dash after they had accused her of being jealous when she was already visibly upset? Or that they nearly destroyed her self-confidence just to teach her a lesson about humility? Look, if you honestly enjoy MMDW, all the more power to you. But that episode is hardly a “masterpiece”.
 
@Durabiznik  
@TexasUberAlles  
I’m not a fan MMDW, and I’m neither an RD fanboy nor someone who’s never watched the episode.
 
@rdibp  
@Durabiznik
Rainbow Dash was the best thing in MMDW. The episode just had a really botched moral in how they decided to tell it.
 
My thoughts exactly.
cloudkicker108
Birthday Cake - Celebrated MLP's 7th birthday

かたわれ時
Her realization that she’d been an ass was real and unforced
 
She literally went from furious enough to physically confront Mare Do Well to apologetic within a minute or two.
 
And that Wacky Scheme™! That was vintage Twilight Sporkhole! Her go-to solution for any situation she can’t solve by quoting trivia at it is to concoct a wildly inappropriate caper
 
An explainable decision does not indicate it was a good decision. For instance, Starlight’s motivations as a villain can be explained in part by her past, but I think we can all agree the inception of Our Town was a bad idea.
 
The storyboarding and directing were just aces from top to bottom, with fast-paced action scenes and seriously thrilling and exciting calamities; the collapsing building was like a nerve-wracking level from a video game, and the whitewater log ride was a whiteknuckle seat-of-the-couch ride that looked exactly like actual Black Diamond rafting footage. The music throughout was also top work, going full Elfman/Walker during all the MDW scenes.
 
Nice rose-tinted glasses you have there. Because while those aspects certainly weren’t bad, I’ve yet to meet anyone else who thinks they were the pinnacle of perfection that you believe they are. Not even other individuals who liked the episode have made claims as audacious as yours. More importantly, though, none of that serves as an excuse to handwave the story, which at best has confusing logic and at worse makes a mockery of the remane 5.
 
Bucky McGillicutty and Kicks McGee was one of the funniest gorram things the show has ever done, it was just so dumb and funny and total Applejack, and the way Cherry Berry tried to get back at Dash for almost letting her get gibbed in the busted balloon by “accidentally” dropping a rainbow-seeking potted plant out of an upstairs window was subtly brilliant. That was the second occurrence of Pinkie Sense in the episode, marking one of the earliest S1 callback continuity moments.
 
I agree those small details are nice touches, but they’re supposed to complement the story, not make up for it.
 
MMDW had everything that makes a great episode— action, drama, pathos, growth and development, continuity, goofy gags and subtle comedy, great design and animation— and for a new writer, was a brilliantly insightful look at the inner workings of a character who’s very easy to get wrong.
 
Again, you really should take off those rose-tinted glasses. Right now you’re ignoring all the not so stellar elements of the episode. Need I remind you they taunted Dash after they had accused her of being jealous when she was already visibly upset? Or that they nearly destroyed her self-confidence just to teach her a lesson about humility? Look, if you honestly enjoy MMDW, all the more power to you. But that episode is hardly a “masterpiece”.
 
@Durabiznik  
@TexasUberAlles  
I’m not a fan MMDW, and I’m neither an RD fanboy nor someone who’s never watched the episode.
Durabiznik

@TexasUberAlles  
I suspect the people who started the MMDW hate snowball were the kind of die-hard unquestioning RD fanboys who felt outraged at the very notion she could actually make a mistake, or ever lose sight of what’s important and need a reminder. Now everyone just takes it as a matter of course that MMDW is shit, because everyone says so. I bet half of the people perpetuating that axiom haven’t even watched the episode.
TexasUberAlles
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Rainbow Rocks 10th Anniversary: Aria Blaze - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of EQG Rainbow Rocks!
Celestial Glory - Helped others get their OC into the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Nightmare in the Moon - Had their OC in the 2024 Derpibooru Collab.
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.

To begin with it was a poopton of desperately needed character development for Rainbow Dash; it not only expanded on her glass jaw confidence from Sonic Rainboom and willingness to get over herself from Fall Weather Friends, it also reinforced that her default mode is Do What’s Right And Needs To Be Done Right Now, but that for all her flying prowess she still has hooves of clay and can be blinded by the limelight into forgetting What’s Really Important. When she heard a foal crying for help, she didn’t hesitate a moment, she just charged right in with no regard for her own safety– like she showed when charging into a similarly tight space in Wonderbolts Academy– and saved the kid without stopping to think about how dangerous it was. I regained all the respect I’d lost for Dash after The Cheaterpony Episode with that one scene, because it meant she was, deep down, a genuinely good and selfless person regardless of her ego and public braggadoccio. For all that she started out blowing her own horn with her fan club in the intro, she shied away from the spotlight when she was being praised for something she had done reflexively just because it needed to be done. Seeing her succumb to the adulation was a grueling yet utterly believable fall from grace, because man, how many times has that happened to actual superstars? Her realization that she’d been an ass was real and unforced, and it was obvious that it really cut her when she understood the lengths to which her friends had been willing to go to get through her thick skull.
And that Wacky Scheme™! That was vintage Twilight Sporkhole! Her go-to solution for any situation she can’t solve by quoting trivia at it is to concoct a wildly inappropriate caper, and Mare Do Well was a doozy of a dopy debacle, one that got us some feckin’ brilliant riffs on Batman: the Animated Series and Darkwing Duck. Having all of them be MDW at different times was really clever, and the sort of thing Target Audience might have been genuinely surprised at. The storyboarding and directing were just aces from top to bottom, with fast-paced action scenes and seriously thrilling and exciting calamities; the collapsing building was like a nerve-wracking level from a video game, and the whitewater log ride was a whiteknuckle seat-of-the-couch ride that looked exactly like actual Black Diamond rafting footage. The music throughout was also top work, going full Elfman/Walker during all the MDW scenes.
I love all the weirdly anachronistic technology that any well-realized magical fantasy universe would logically accrue– like microphones and DJ turntables alongside crank phonographs, or airships and pedalcopters alongside steam locomotives– so I loved the hydro dam and the construction Ponies using a magic-powered crane to erect a girder frame building… with timber. And that has to be a hydro-thaumic dam, since they use spot-magic to power their appliances instead of electricity, which is a whole new line of worldbuilding extrapolation.
Episode was funny, G.– Dash has always had a Bugs Bunny vibe about her, where it’s hilarious when she falls flat on it because she usually wins all the time, and she fell on it hard– and comeuppance is a lot funnier when you know the one with the swole head is gonna learn something from it. Bucky McGillicutty and Kicks McGee was one of the funniest gorram things the show has ever done, it was just so dumb and funny and total Applejack, and the way Cherry Berry tried to get back at Dash for almost letting her get gibbed in the busted balloon by “accidentally” dropping a rainbow-seeking potted plant out of an upstairs window was subtly brilliant. That was the second occurrence of Pinkie Sense in the episode, marking one of the earliest S1 callback continuity moments.
MMDW had everything that makes a great episode– action, drama, pathos, growth and development, continuity, goofy gags and subtle comedy, great design and animation– and for a new writer, was a brilliantly insightful look at the inner workings of a character who’s very easy to get wrong. The only sour note in the whole thing was that cornball wink at the end, but Dash is the sort of dork who would do that anyway, so it’s not much of a slight.