@Riveris R.  
the fact that she admitted she was getting all the love for herself, and the fact that she never once attempted to make peace with the rest of the changelings after she was bested.

@darknessRising24  
where is the evedice that she dose not care?

@Riveris R.  
that’s a pretty big assumption, not to mention the fact that your other statements are going into fanfic territory. As it stands now she doesn’t really care about her Hive after she left.

@darknessRising24  
your also forgetting a very important thing. She could be lying about that. If she is a queen of shapeshifters dependent on lying and deceit and general spywork. It would not be a bad idea to prop her self up as a villain so that if things go to wrong. They would blame her and not her people.
 
Think about it. What changelings where kicked out when she lost her throne? literaly none of them.
 
Me myself personaly. I would have it the way where we can see good people do bad things for good reasons sometimes. a good leader cant always do whats right for everyone and when you have people depending on you someitmes you gotta do things that dont seem right with out seeing the bigger picture.
 
Its also seen that changelings can still shapeshift. so if I had to write her back in. It would not be a she reforms and change more like. Gives the full story from her point of view. we get the big picture. Not a reformation. but just seeing everything there. Some change back to the normal form. some stay with the new look. gives some varation lets hasbro keep the old toys and even make new ones to.

@Archonix  
Thank you, as delicious as the irony of two people basically acting out the plot synopsis was, things were getting seeeeeriously wall-o-texty.

Hey, it’s me. A mod.
 
I get the last word.
 
Enjoy your time off.
 
ETA: In case it wasn’t clear, argument is fine, insults are not. Trying to get the last word after repeatedly stating that you’re done also puts you in a bad light.

@Pagan  
I never said I agreed, simply that the comics and show indicated they were like that from the beginning. Here’s the definition of corruption since you clearly don’t understand it’s meaning:
 
corruption/kəˈrʌpʃ(ə)n/  
noun
 
dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.  
the process by which a word or expression is changed from its original state to one regarded as erroneous or debased.  
the process of decay; putrefaction.
 
 
Corruption hinders, purification helps. The changeling still can use their shape-shifting powers but they now no longer have to forcibly take love, and they are no longer constantly hungry. Their new form isn’t a corruption, it’s a purification and an improvement.
 
You seem to forget that again, Thorax simply wanted to find a way to help the hive feed differently. Chrysalis wanted what was best for her children wouldn’t she have had the very least humored him or heard him out? However she made it very clear that she didn’t listen or care, it’s obvious that she doesn’t listen to her subjects when they suggest a better way of feeding.
 
And stop saying I agree with you because I don’t. Their method of feeding is still harmful, they’re intelligent enough to know that and so is there suppose it pray. If they’re intelligent enough to plan and manipulate them it should be intelligent enough to think of different ways to feed. You compared it to a lion eating its prey, however a lion needs to kill its prey in order to eat it, and as I said before, they are wild animals. However the changelings and ponies are smart as humans.
 
And once again, humans being smart and still eating meat isn’t the same thing, we eat stuff that’s already dead. Not to mention the fact that we don’t kill and eat other species that are just as intelligent incapable of intellectual speech as we are.
 
The fact that you’re making excuses for their villainous acts is nothing short of illogical.
 
 
Then there’s the fact that once again, it’s not corruption. It’s purification, corruption would make them worse off than they already are and as I pointed up above they only benefited from the change with little to no negative side effects whatsoever. And before you say it no, their appearance doesn’t count. And it’s not ambiguous as if they chose to join him, mainly because Starlight openly pointed this out after thorax transformed:
 
Starlight Glimmer: This is what happens when you give love freely instead of taking it!
 
We already saw the act of taking loved via Chrysalis, and we saw the method of giving love via Thorax, the rest of the changelings used thorax his method of giving love and therefore weren’t corrupted in the slightest, they were purified.
 
Once again, stop making up lies.
 
I’ve easily counted every single point you’ve brought up by using factual evidence and actual scenes from both the comics and the show to prove my point as well as quotes from certain characters that prove it even further. You on the other hand are relying only on your own biased headcanons which literally make no sense when you stop to think about it. The one who’s getting out of hand here is you. Because you’re continuously throwing around false accusations, making up false facts, and pretending that you’re supposed headcanons somehow hold way despite there being no actual proof to back them up aside from you taking certain instances completely out of context.
 
I pointed out exactly how it was different, not to mention the fact that you completely ignored the rest of that quote:
 
“That’s different, the Changelings changed for the better and have managed to integrate into Equestrian society, Pharynx is undermining a progressive leadership by demanding everyone go back to the old ways which were a hindrance and alienated them from Equestria, not to mention the back of their Queen was purposely starving them to keep them under her rule.
 
It’s not comparable to Starlights ways because she stamped out individuality and forced everyone to ignore what made them unique and follow a single thought process. And in the end they only continued to alienate themselves from Equestria just like Chrysalis.”
 
So yeah, the liar is still you.
 
And don’t pretend that you’re being civil when you’re basically being condescending. I pointed out pretty much every hole in your logic and even pointed out how the changelings are better off now than they’ve ever been before. You and the other hand are constantly claiming that they were somehow corrupted despite the fact that that’s not what corruption is. Corruption hinders, the changelings transformation helped. I can easily point out that fact by bringing up the fact that despite their change they not only been able to integrate themselves into equestrian Society, but they also managed to maintain a peaceful relation with its citizens to spite their shady past. The reason that they needed to put more effort into peaceful negotiations in the ponies is because the ponies despite a rocky beginning where willing to accept them, all the changelings outright invaded their home with no intent of peaceful negotiation whatsoever.
 
That’s not hypocrisy, that’s stating a fact. You on the other hand have no physical factual evidence that the changelings have been hindered in any way shape or form. Once again they’ve been able to integrate into Equestria very fine after their new transformation, and they still been able to transform at will. The definition of corruption once again, is to hinder, not hell. And this has done nothing but help them. Equestria is now on the road to a more peaceful future with ponies and changelings and getting along, something that could never have been achieved had the changeling stuck to their old villainous ways.
 
Once again, pretty much every one of your supposedly is only chalked up to biased headcanons that can easily be traced back to you simply hating the new designs. You have yet to provide any sort of proof that the change hasn’t been beneficial in the slightest with any facts from the show aside from a few roaches and wanted to go back to the old ways. Which might I remind you, only resulted in them getting their Collective asses kicked.
 
Unless you can point out exactly how the old ways were somehow beneficial to both races and actually helped Equestria while the new ways are simply hindering Equestria, I suggest you don’t reply because by this point you’re just embarrassing Yourself by defending the villain and pretending that they did nothing wrong.

@darknessRising24  
I was pointing out that you are being one sided but you missed the point, again with the assumptions being presented as facts.
 
So you agree with me, they were always the way they used to be and this new form is technically a corruption.
 
Thorax was a traitor who helped the enemy one of which attempted to destroy the hives only safety measure and was ruining the food supply and takeover plan, he was no longer a member of the hive and was basically a terrorist, the fact you are trying to use him as an excuse that he must be how she treats all her subjects is ridiculous.
 
So you agree with me that the changelings should be able to feed as their method of feeding isn’t even that bad, it doesn’t matter if they have more intelligence food is food they have to eat, even if it’s just because of a strong natural urge. Humans are smart but we still eat meat.
 
“So that comparison is not only asinine, but downright stupid.”  
Brilliant counter point, completely infallible argument I must say.
 
Again you are applying subjective opinions, it’s corruption in my eyes as they are worse now than before as far as I’m concerned there is no “factual evidence” your opinion is not a fact. For all we know they saw Thorax glowing and decided they wanted that power as well and the resulting magic bomb altered their minds just like their bodies, it’s ambiguous if they actually chose to join them.
 
“Again, stop making up lies.”  
Where are the lies? Seriously you keep calling my counter points lies even though there is nothing that can be construed as such. You are literally just looking at my arguments disagreeing with them and labeling it a lie because of that. This conversation is going nowhere and you are getting a little out of hand.
 
Except your argument to him was that the change was justified, you weren’t just saying Starlight wasn’t the issue.  
“Pharynx is undermining a progressive leadership by demanding everyone go back to the old ways which were a hindrance and alienated them from Equestria, not to mention the back of their Queen was purposely starving them to keep them under her rule.” That was your argument, that has nothing to do with starlight, you were trying to tell him that the new changedlings are better to someone who clearly doesn’t feel that sentiment.  
So who’s lying now?
 
The majority of your evidence is subjective, you say they are better off now than they were before, that’s subjective, you say Chrysalis was harming them, that’s subjective as we never see or hear her do such a thing. You say the ponies shouldn’t have to put effort in the peace process but the changelings should, that is an opinion not a fact. I’m not saying my stuff is proof or indisputable evidence they were merely counter points to your own. Quit sitting here accusing me of doing things you yourself are doing, hypocrisy is not a good way to try and come out on top.
 
I’m trying to be respectful and get a compromise with you but instead of trying to provide counter points and have a civil discussion you just keep slinging around false accusations and label all my points as “lies” when they are just different opinions than yours and nothing more, you don’t have solid concrete facts you have opinions that I am providing counters to. If you can’t be civil then I’ll just end this here.

@Pagan
 
The fact that you’re blaming cadence for not doing anything is beyond preposterous, in the first instance she was kidnapped, and then the second instance even if she did come to them with peaceful intent they would have just captured her or chased her away.
 
As for the comics, the show outright confirms that they’re born that way by Thorax’s flashback. And there was never any line that indicates they were corrupted anyway.
 
And then there’s the fact that Chrysalis out right tried to torture and kill Thorax the moment he came back. Tell me, if she simply wanted what was best for her subjects, why would she try to kill him if he only wanted to find a better way for them to feed?
 
Also there’s the fact that a lion kills its prey to eat and eat it Changelings feed on love, an emotion. Something they can take without killing the host. Then there’s the fact that Lions and their prey are wild animals while changelings and ponies are shown to be as smart as humans.
 
So that comparison is not only asinine, but downright stupid.
 
What even more asinine is that you believe that they were somehow corrupted. Once again you are ignoring factual evidence. They only decided to convert after they saw how Thorax’s method was better than Chrysalis’. They still have their free will, they were still able to change, and they are still able to integrate into society while befriending what they once called prey, and if I said before, they made the choice to change. If they really were corrupted they would not have been given a choice or free will period.
 
Again, stop making up lies.
 
 
My response to the previous commenter was over the fact that the way the changelings were converted is not similar to how Starlight ran her Village.
 
And then there’s the fact that I’m not using subjective evidence, I’m using evidence that was displayed within the show, the comics, through text and dialogue that was said by the characters themselves, which confirms several points that I’ve brought up. The only one is using subjective evidence is you, because not once have you brought up any points that can actually need backed up by in show dialogue. You on the other hand are only making assumptions and making huge leaps and logic that don’t really make sense in the grand scheme of things, not to mention that most of your in-Universe explanations contradict themselves at certain points as I pointed out above. And they can all be traced back to you simply hating the new designs.

Again you make assumptions and I never said they didn’t invade lands before in fact I believe they have done it many times but that still doesn’t rule out they might have tried and the ponies certainly didn’t try either. Thorax was an example of another way but again it was the first time and the plan to retake equestria was already under way they didn’t have much of a choice and they had no reason to try and experiment with something they’ve never seen before compared to something they know works. And again Cadence could have tried something as well and they didn’t.
 
If you want to take the comics as canon then that confirms a major plot hole they weren’t cursed like the finale said as they were born that way from the very beginning, they were their own species they were not bug ponies that became corrupted.
 
I didn’t say “it sucks because it sucks” I gave many explinations to the plot holes and contrived moments and how it erased there appeal, you are just tossing my points aside because you disagree and then you try to write it off as if I’m just saying “I don’t know why I dislike I just do” when I’m clearly not and I have given in universe points as well, several in fact so don’t sit there and say I’m not giving you anything.
 
Just because you want to be on top and the most powerful doesn’t mean you hate those you are above, you’re applying forced logic that if she wants to be in charge she must also torture and hurt her own kind which simply doesn’t add up as we’re never shown her hurting them or even raising her voice at them, I would love to be the ruler of the world with everyone doing as I say that doesn’t mean I want them to suffer. Saying she might have brainwashed them is an unprovable assumption and they are clearly away from the hive at times and could do whatever they want, we also have outsider changelings that showed up to a wedding and one showing clear unique thought as it humored Pinkie, you can’t just blanket label Chrysalis as the sole reason for their lack of change, they had every opportunity to do what they wanted they very well could have simply not wanted to and as we see with this upcoming episode that is the case for some.
 
I already explained she would be reasonably suspicious after what happened to her hive right in front of her, they are a race as shown in the comics as always having been that way, do you really think if humanity saw a bunch of it’s people turned into grey aliens and then they offered the rest to become like that or else they would search for us that humanity would just accept that? It’s the same thing with Chrysalis thousands of years as a species you care about just taken away in an instant under the claims of “for the greater good”.
 
I’m in no way lying when I say I think they are corrupted, It’s subjective and therefore can’t be a lie. Just because you see it as a good thing doesn’t mean everyone does and a force that envelopes and changes something is a form of corruption from one state to another and I have listed off reasons why it was a bad change, you can disagree with it but calling it a lie is beyond pretentious.
 
Again not wanting to give up control does not = hate.
 
You just proved my own point, she said “Ridiculous! The hunger of changelings can never be satisfied!” that means she believes it’s how her kind works and it’s been that way since the beginning and she would have every reason to believe she knows more than a unicorn who only recently even interacted with one of her species. She believed she was doing what was best for them she believed her leadership was what has been keeping them alive and she has no reason to trust Starlight anyway. Starlight was losing, she had no backup left she would say anything to turn the tables and Chrysalis is right on the verge of victory why would she risk compromising everything for what she would honestly believe is just a tactic to get the upper hand by her enemy?
 
“s for the ponies being responsible, they at the very least have an excuse; the changelings invaded their home. They on the other hand have every right to be suspicious of them”.  
And the changelings have a right to feed on their food source. Should a lion be forbidden from eating it’s prey because it’s not a symbiotic relationship? No of course not, the lion theoretically doesn’t have to kill it’s prey to survive but it does it’s their nature, it always has been just like it always has been for the changeling’s, they were born with the need to feed on love so to say it’s okay for the ponies to not do anything but the Changelings should is like saying the lion should change it’s ways of hunting but the prey shouldn’t have to, it’s incredibly one sided. And that again feeds back into my statement that after all that time they never fed on each other or gave love to one another in their species entire existence? It’s insane.
 
Now you are just being ridiculous, Kraus merely stated how he feels about the situation and your response was “That’s different, the Changelings changed for the better” Which is completely subjective yet you are trying to tell him and by extension anyone who shares that opinion that they must be wrong despite the fact you are using subjective evidence. And your claim that because you provided your own points means the other person can’t be right and that you must try to change their opinion on the matter even though I have provided more than enough counter points against it. I don’t tell people who say why they think the new changedlings are better that they are incorrect because it’s subjective you don’t need to do try and correct someone just because they have a different feeling about it, which is what you did, you’re the one who started the argument and tried to “correct” them over their opinion.
 
I have provided many in universe references in my previous post and this one, stop saying your the only one who has.
 
“I’m not trying to force you to like the designs, it’s fine if you don’t.”  
Except that’s exactly what tried to do with Kraus.
 
“But if you’re going to just make up excuses on why you hate it then I’m going to defend the actual reason why it happened.”  
I can see your not going to pay any attention to what I’ve posted, no matter how much I give you what you ask for I’m just gonna keep getting called a liar (even though that makes no sense I’m giving actual points) aren’t I?

@Pagan  
Considering the fact that the first time we’ve seen them was when they started invading and the fact that Chrysalis openly states that Equestria is full of more love than any other land she’s been too, it’s easy to say that this isn’t the first time they’ve done this. At the moment the only backstory we have is from the comics whether you consider them canonical are not. And until we actually get some backstory in the show, it’s the only real info we have on their history, and Christmas is clearly shown willingly invading without a single attempt to make peace with any other species. And before you say that they shouldn’t be tipping off their prey, I remind you that there are other ways that they could have gained love other than stealing it, as Thorax showed. Hell Cadence is the princess of love, if anything trying a peaceful Solution by going to her would have been a more logical strategy instead of just outright kidnapping her and giving her and by extension the rest of Equestria no reason to want to help them.
 
Simply saying “it’s impossible because it’s poorly written” is another way of saying “I don’t care about any in-universe explanation, it sucks because it sucks”, if you’re not willing to at the very least try to find a decent in-universe explanation aside from immediately going for the meta reason, why should your opinion be taken seriously?
 
As I stated before, she was hoarding most of the love to keep herself stronger and by extension keep the hive more dependent on her. Considering they’ve been around for a while it’s possible that she forcibly forbade her children from sharing love and instilled the idea that stealing it was the only way to survive. Once again, I ask you, why would she have rejected Starlight if she would be willing to try another way if she knew about it?
 
Also stop lying, the chaingelings weren’t “corrupted” as you say, they were changed because they found a new way to feed that didn’t involve stealing love. Starlight herself pointed out that Thorax and found a better way to share a love without them being constantly hungry and considering that his power overthrew that of Chrysalis’ it worked a lot better than her method. Not to mention the fact that another quote from her indicates that she didn’t want their hunger to be stated since it would mean giving up control over them:
 
Queen Chrysalis: Don’t mention that traitor’s name in my kingdom! He was a fool to leave and even more a fool to return!
 
later
 
Starlight Glimmer: What if you didn’t have to?
 
Queen Chrysalis: Ridiculous! The hunger of changelings can never be satisfied!
 
If she really did have any interest in her Hive finding a different way to feed wouldn’t she have said some lines of “I’m listening?”, For the very least indulge Thorax’s idea of making peace with the ponies?
 
Again, stop making excuses and trying to paint Chrysalis as the victim in all of this.
 
As for the ponies being responsible, they at the very least have an excuse; the changelings invaded their home. They on the other hand have every right_to be suspicious of them, doubly so if we go by the comic book canon as well where’s indicated that the changelings have terrorized Equestria for _years without any indication that they want peace whatsoever. And while it took a bit, Spike managed to convince them that changelings could change their ways and they almost immediately extended the hoof of friendship to one of them, so they have the very least get points for trying, even if it did take a dragon’s song to get them to see otherwise.
 
You say that I’m shaming you for feeling the different way, if that’s exactly what you’re doing considering the fact that you’re basically saying that my reasons for why the scenario was possible don’t make sense, even though I pretty much elaborated on exactly why they would make sense in the grand scheme of things while you are simply painting the villian of this scenario as a victim despite the fact that she’s the one who instigated most of the conflicts to begin with.
 
Once again, I’ve been able to easily explain exactly how this could happen in-universe, however you seem to like deviating to The Meta reason or simply ignoring the point in favor of complaining about out of the designs or Starlight Glimmer in general. I’m at the very least sticking to the subject and focusing on the changelings in general. We’re not talking about the meta reason for their choice of design, new are we talking about how the writers just wanted to shill Starlight Glimmer, so stop trying to shift the subject. Either stick to the in-universe side of the argument or stop arguing altogether.
 
 
I’m not trying to force you to like the designs, it’s fine if you don’t. But if you’re going to just make up excuses on why you hate it then I’m going to defend the actual reason why it happened.

@darknessRising24  
They feed off the love of other living creatures, conquering lands and having a lasting food supply is what they are likely going to choose over tipping off their food supply to a potential attack if the ponies decide they don’t want peace, besides we don’t know their past they might have tried peace once but it didn’t work out or they were denied you can’t just say “they never tried peace” because you have no way of knowing.
 
You’re the one throwing the argument out the window, it’s nearly impossible to use in universe scenarios because they were so poorly written, there’s more holes in the plot of the finale than the changelings themselves, I already mentioned how it made no sense she would hoard love over making her army stronger for an attack and how she would have no way of knowing they could change as we never see one like that and if she knew about it she would likely have wanted it for herself. And you’re going to tell me the changelings never gave each other love once in their entire time as a species? That’s beyond ridiculous. You practically have to be meta when talking about this because the plot does everything it can to take you out of the experience. It was a pointless and unnecessary decision to change them, they removed everything that made the changelings interesting in the first place, they stood out from colors of mlp and contrasted well with the setting, they had interesting anatomical structure such as the holes and fangs and they fed on love from other creatures to survive which created a morally grey area for motives as well as a dynamic to the other species of equestria and the finale gutted all of that and removed everything that made them fun and interesting to watch, now they blend into the background like everything else due to the bright pastel colors they now have, they no longer have interesting or unique features the fangs are gone and they are solid (the only thing that stands out is Thorax’s antlers and dears and moose’s already have that stuff in mlp) and now they just feed off each other removing the dynamic they had with the rest of the world, they might as well eat regular food now.
 
Starlight was the focus of the entire finale and they made a forced and contrived plot for the changelings for her to work around, they changed a classic species to work off of her. Of course Chrysalis didn’t accept Starlight’s “offer” she just watched her entire species get corrupted and changed before her eyes, something they chose not to do in the past of course she would have reasonable suspicion and hate towards Starlight after that.
 
They became slightly bug like versions of the ponies and now they are actively seeking out those that aren’t like them to change them, that is conversion they are wiping out a species and completely changing them into something else. You say it’s for the greater good but the ponies never tried a peaceful solution either something you accused the changelings of doing so apparently it’s okay when the ponies don’t try but it’s not when it’s the other way around? They could have done something in the years the changelings were cast out of Canterlot, they new Chrysalis and her army would return and they did nothing about it and they used a magic bomb deus ex machina plot device to change them. So your claims that they deserve to have this happen because they didn’t try hard enough for peace is just as easily directed at the ponies.
 
Seriously I’m fine with people liking the new changelings I’m not gonna say anyone’s wrong for liking what they like but when I see that courtesy can’t be returned it’s frustrating, you don’t have to try and justify everything because someone doesn’t share the same likes as you, just because I liked the old changelings and found the new ones forced doesn’t mean it’s your mission to try and prove me and anyone else wrong especially since it’s not possible to prove any of it. I don’t want to argue about this shit and I shouldn’t have to defend my stance all the time because someone thinks “hey their thoughts don’t align with mine I better try to explain to them why they are wrong for liking something old and not liking something new even though there’s a valid reason to not like it” if you like ‘em fine have a blast but you don’t need to try and shame other people for not feeling the same way.

@Pagan  
You’re obviously not seeing the full picture here. Chrysalis herself admits this:
 
Queen Chrysalis: So I could feed, of course! By replacing the most beloved figures in Equestria, my drones will be able to store all the love meant for them and return it here to me!
 
Not to mention the fact that she never once tried a peaceful negotiation with the other races and simply invaded, nor is it ever indicated that she was turned away if she was ever trying to be peaceful with them. So stop pretending that she’s somehow a victim in all this, if she really wanted to feed and care her subjects she would have tried peaceful negotiations with the Princesses instead of just invading right off the bat. And you also seem to be ignoring the fact that when Starlight offered her a chance to live in a more peaceful way she outright rejected her and the rest of her Hive, she gets no excuse.
 
Also, don’t use the whole “the writers wanted to make glimmer look like a hero” excuse. It’s basically the same as giving up the argument. We’re talking about in-Universe reasons for why the situation occurred, not meta reasons. If you can’t stick to the in Universe scenario then don’t bother complaining about it, using the whole “the writers wanted this” excuse doesn’t hold any weight.
 
And finally, they didn’t wipe out a species, Newman was it a convert or die scenario, they simply converted to a different way of living that was more beneficial and resulted in a more peaceful relationship with the rest of Equestria. Not to mention the fact that the remaining changelings only decided to convert after they saw the results of Thorax sharing his love instead of just taking it. So that lot it falls flat on its face as well.

@darknessRising24  
“He’s undermining the new leadership” the fact you don’t see the problem with that statement is a little scary. “the queen was purposefully starving her subjects” I love how people keep stating that as if it’s a fact even though it’s just a headcanon a few fans created because we clearly see her try to take over Canterlot and she tells them all to feed, even in the finale she states they bring her as much love as possible to build up her strength but at no point does she say they don’t get to feed and it doesn’t help that she would have no reason to not let them feed as she likely didn’t know about the change because if she did then she would likely have lifted her “curse” herself. We also see it doesn’t require the queen to make the change meaning the changelings could have done it at anytime but never did Chrysalis couldn’t have had anything to do with that as they are not a hive mind.
 
Wiping out an entire species for the sake of an alliance with them is pretty much text book convert or die mentality. And meta wise it was just a stupid decision on the writers part to ruin one of the best species in the show all so Starlight can look like a hero when they could have had the changelings switch sides without transforming them and making it ambiguous as to whether they actually wanted it or not.

@DanielTepesKraus  
Its going to be about trying to change conservatist views for more liberal ideas and the message will criticise the muslims too, hopefully.

@DanielTepesKraus  
That’s different, the Changelings changed for the better and have managed to integrate into Equestrian society, Pharynx is undermining a progressive leadership by demanding everyone go back to the old ways which were a hindrance and alienated them from Equestria, not to mention the back of their Queen was purposely starving them to keep them under her rule.
 
It’s not comparable to Starlights ways because she stamped out individuality and forced everyone to ignore what made them unique and follow a single thought process. And in the end they only continued to alienate themselves from Equestria just like Chrysalis.

translation: cave into peer pressure and change everything about yourself just to please others. that some of this pressure is coming from a cultist who believed in stamping out individuality is neither here nor there.

@Keith Mowz  
From what Thorax was babbling about, Pharynx could also have a problem with him, personally.

@Stotter  
Can you see the future?  
Are you a wizard?  
Because that sounds like a plausible description of the episode based on what we heard in Triple Threat