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Great point! I still remember Dominic Deegan (came across him by way of 8-Bit Theater, actually), and I agree – Sunburst’s personality certainly does match with his.
Starlight is, in the words of Abridged Vegeta:
“[S]he’s so cool, but [s]he’s so goddamn dumb!”
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Ah, glad it was just a misunderstanding.
Yeah I’m a bit busy to do my fanfics as well, so I can relate. Partly because I tend to make them too damn long.
Beyond the backstory, I kind of wished they flushed out more of Sunburst’s personality even more then Starlight, showing more then just a bag of insecurities to make Starlight feel more confident in comparison. I don’t know why, I guess his design reminds me a bit of a main character of a webcomic I doubt anyone remembers, Dominic Deegan.
Oh. I misunderstood you. I thought you were suggesting that she already had her cutie mark before Sunburst got his.
Still, as much as I like Starlight and Sunburst… there are certainly some problems with how their backstory was executed. I plan to address a few of these things in some fanfics I’m writing (if I ever get around to actually writing them at least).
You ARE you jerking my chain….. right?
They showed in the S6 premier flashbacks how when given the proper instruction by Sunburst, Starlight’s magical control was overwhelming even as a cutie mark-less little filly, way more impressive then Sunbursts display when he got his cutie mark. Yeah her ingenious spell crafting and instant skill was implied to happen when she got her cutie mark after, but she already had more magical power and potential necessary to join Celestia’s gifted school for children.
Back in S5’s finale, while still a very clumsy backstory, we were under the assumption she didn’t have the power or skill to join Sunburst to Celestia’s school at the time, and she got her skill in magic later. She explained it as such in the finale.
After the reveal in S6’s finale, there was zero reason for her not to join Sunburst immediately when he went to Celestia’s school. She would of been accepted in a heartbeat with her magical power. If there is ulterior reason, it wasn’t implied at all.
(sigh)Look, I know my reply is pointless since you currently have Starlight and Sunburst icon and your stance on the matter is obviously adament, but I’m saying it anyway. Let’s just keep civil about it.
They nerfed Starlight.
“since the whole basis of not getting her talent until later was retconned in s6’s premier.”
Uuuuum… no it wasn’t. Like, at all.
Precisely.
And they are specific about unicorn magic, as sunset’s harmony magic levels are astounding. Which makes sense, since she can’t practice her unicorn magic on earth.
And Starlight is, well….Starlight. They go on to show she’s absurdly strong, but none of the princesses even comment on her being a powerhouse. She’s even a living plothole since the whole basis of not getting her talent until later was retconned in s6’s premier.
Ergo, at this moment she isn’t as strong as Twilight or Starlight are now, that is made very clear, however unless someone involved with the show further clarifies the situation or the story itself at some point states such, no-one knows for sure what her potential “MAX LEVEL”, so to speak, truly is.
And I guess Starlight is strong because… Because.
The last thing I’ll to type to you here: because you accuse me of doing the very same thing you’re doing. I never ignored the rest of your posts, you merely think I did. If you want me to take the time to respond directly, bullet point, tit-for-tat style, to everything you post that even resembles a point, you’re conversing with the wrong person my comrade. It’s a waste of my time and yours, even if you don’t realize it.
@Macaroni C-Pony
I never saw Dragon Ball Z. It didn’t interest me either.
Alright.
No, I’d rather just end it here.
If you think I am using buzzwords, tell me where I’m using them. Don’t just say that I use them, Tell me where they are. And about you ignoring what I say:
@Background Pony #D036
You responded with:
@Josh103
Completely ignoring the main point of my comment and just dismissing it offhand based on a single sentence. People tend to do this when they don’t have a valid argument. I also pointed out your misuse of the word oxymoron which you didn’t respond to. And then there’s this gem:
@Josh103
In my previous comment I explained why contrivance isn’t automatically a flaw, you completely ignored everything I said in that comment and just proceeded to call me a hypocrite without responding to anything else I said. Maybe you’re not doing this intentionally, but you do often dismiss a lot of my points based on a single sentence in my comment and then proceed to attack that while not addressing anything else I say. This is a fact. If you want to try to disprove it, read my whole comment, don’t skim it, and address every single point I make. Otherwise I can’t take you seriously. Also, about the action scenes, after you explained it to me, I did get it, But you had to explain it to me. And my ideas about an action scene are not personal, they are the very core of a good action scene, they are objective. If an action scene doesn’t have tension, it’s just a bunch of things happening at once. You might be entertained by that, and if so, go watch the hobbit movies. There a good example of tensionless action.
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Because the very thing you’ve been claiming I’ve been doing all this time: ignoring some part of your posts, which I haven’t, you’ve been doing to me, which I have stated repeatedly as to why my viewpoint is that way, yet you instead claim that I’m ignoring part of your post and even say I’m using a “buzz word”… which is buzz word, or rather phrase, itself at this point- all the while using plenty of them and ignoring the point of my post, that it’s my opinion that the action scenes are better yet could be improved, which you don’t seem to get, in favor of some sort of personal, literary ideal of what an action scene should be, which is entirely irrelevant.
I got nothing else to type to ya. Not gonna deface a Shimmy pic further.
How am I being a hypocrite? Why do you keep ignoring everything I say?
Much like yourself mate.
A fine showing of hypocrisy.
Contrivance is not a flaw. It is a necessary dramatic device used to create conflict. What is a flaw is unnatural contrivance that creates obvious contradictions. I do wish people would stop throwing around buzzwords that they don’t fully understand the meaning of.
I don’t think you know what an oxymoron is, and once again you completely ignore most of what I say.
I like the early fanon that pegasi weren’t as strong physically as Earth ponies, because heavy muscle structure would impede their flying.
And Earth ponies did everything manually and had a history of working with the land, so they were physically the strongest of the three, with unicorns not needing to do nearly as much physically due to their magic.
It seems the show eventually went in this direction partially, at least for Earth ponies.
Just DON’T be exclusive when it comes to Pony power levels.
Pegasus and Earth Ponies could be just as strong as a unicorn.
It helped them figure out their talents at that moment, but it didn’t give them a “magic boost”.
A “mini-nuke” that was only for comedic purposes, and didn’t even hurt Applejack and Twilight who were about 10 feet away.
None of these are untrue! The Sonic Rainboom jumpstarted their talents!
I DID exaggerate by comparing Katrina. But clearing those kind of storms is her JOB. So I’m sure she could MAKE one.
And it was a nuke. A mini-nuke.
Like the one thrown out of the car in “Terminator 3”
Why are people so biased toward unicorns?!
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Many of those are untrue (giving the Elements of Harmony a magic boost), extremely exaggerated (Hurricane Katrina weather), or only done as a gag (nuclear explosion Rainboom).