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Meanwhile, in a University of Peru…
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+-SH safe2185171 +-SH spike92699 +-SH twilight sparkle359401 +-SH dragon86107 +-SH pony1614297 +-SH unicorn542994 +-SH g42041651 +-SH college175 +-SH exam55 +-SH irl83769 +-SH mathematics in the comments34 +-SH peru109 +-SH photo96992 +-SH physics268 +-SH spanish5428 +-SH translated in the comments3541 +-SH unicorn twilight33774
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When I went through college (yay for the US educational system…) we did problems like this in the intro to physics class, presumably in case students didn’t learn it in high school or had forgotten it by then. I took physics in high school, but the refresher was nice. Also at my high school, students had to take a science class but got to choose between physics, chemistry, and biology (and think one or two others, i don’t remember)
I dunno: I’m not Peruvian.
My little bro learned this at about your age, too. Not me: Physics were not my thing, I “learned” all this a year later then you and then took a Humanistic Sciences educational path in order to avoid any kind of maths. I think I suffer from dyscalculia.
Kudos for being the one who solved this, and for the effort of explaining it so simply and plain.
If this is a university question, I don’t know how good Peru’s educational system is. NUS High taught me how to tackle these problems in year 2 (13 to 14 years old, 8th grade). Let me tidy up the problem:
For now we can treat Spike and the box as a single 68 kg mass. If Twilight’s movement is east, the forces on the box/Spike combination are:
-> Gravity (20° west of south)
-> Normal (north)
-> Twilight’s pull (east)
-> Friction (west) at 0.2 of the normal force
The gravity is a force of (58 + 10)g = 667.08 N and resolves to a south component of 626.85 N and a west component of 228.15 N. The normal force is therefore 626.85 N (the second question’s answer) too since only gravity opposes it - everything is in equilibrium here - and the friction is 0.2 of the normal or 125.37 N. Hence Twilight is supplying a force of 125.37 + 228.15 = 353.52 N (first question).
For the last question, the forces acting on Spike are:
-> Gravity (20° west of south)
-> Normal (north)
-> Friction (east)
The south component of the gravity - and normal force too - is 10g * cos 20 = 92.18 N and the west component is 10g * sin 20 = 33.55 N. The minimum static coefficient of friction possible is therefore 33.55 / 92.18 = 0.364.
That was easy, wasn’t it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(force)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass)
There are two kinds of pounds. I’ve never heard of the poundal before. Interesting unit, but it doesn’t negate to fact that there is a unit of force that is called a pound.
Pounds measure mass; poundals measure weight.
One: I’m an American.
Two: Mass is not the same thing as weight. Mass is the quantity of matter in a thing. Weight is the force applied to a mass by gravity and therefor can fluctuate based on location.
Three: while the pound-mass is a thing (which I had forgotten it was) you need to specify that otherwise there’s going to be confusion and most people are going to assume you mean pound-force as that is the most common usage of the pound.
Four: I think the conversation between kg to pound-mass and kg to pound-force assuming 1g are different. The wikipedia article for pound-mass lists 1 lbm as being 5/11 kg and also the ~2.2 conversion in US.
Yay for numbeted list to organize thoughts
It’s the “mass (weight)” comment that concerns me.
Pounds, not poundals…
Mass and weight are not interchangeable. Again, weight is force, mass times acceleration. There are different units at work.
@FanOfMostEverything
@Drasvin
I know; I was just converting the two masses to pounds. Oh, and FYI, pounds are used to measure mass (weight) in America.
AUTO-FIXED. Sorry. I’d like to add the problem to the description if the OC has no inconvenient.
Yeah. The Imperial unit of mass is the slug.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug_(mass)
Also, pounds are units of force, not mass. Your poundage changes depending on the strength of the local gravity.
You never use pounds in physics problems; always use SI units or units that easily convert to SI units
58kg = ~130lbs
10kg = ~20lbs
Sorry. You didn’t show your work. So you get a B instead.
Further evidence for her expression.
“‘Follow the script,’ they said. ‘Nopony will learn anything otherwise,’ they said. And they’re right, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.”
Now it works.
I’ll take my A now.
Oh right :-)
My little bro (26) says he can solve this.