Pony Venting Thread

@Vivace
One of the biggest perks of G5’s premise is that it filtered a lot of the really “out there” fans who don’t handle change well.

I wish I didn’t hate Jazz so much…

@DerpyFast
Results may vary on the change

I’m using MLP in a school assignment. I’m a senior :D

This is how I’m using it

@SlickBlade
Good luck and make sure nobody in your class teases you or bullies you over it

@Mr.Myoozik
Funny how I openly let people know I like ponies back in school, but no one teases me because being good at English was something impressive in my school.

@Just Wayne
Imagine doing this in Western countries, especially America or England, the result would be opposite.

@Just Wayne
Taiwan must be different from the West if that’s the case

@Mr.Myoozik
Well, it is a country with English not as its native language after all, and we care a lot of about English because well, it’s an international language. I don’t know if it’s different nowadays or if school is just way too different from the workplace as English is now more common than ever, but it was like that to me. (Though I never understand why people find English hard. I mean it’s everywhere on the internet. It’s not just easy to learn. It’s literally everywhere.)

Oh my God, can that poorly made DA foot fetish “art” like, not arrive here and stay over there? Had to filter out the “artist” tag cause I was getting sick of seeing it.

It’s always the fucking foot-fetish people.

If your gonna spam a website with feet pics, at least make sure they’re the best damn feet you ever drawn, last thing we need are more close ups of some of the laziest, ugliest, drawings that you come up with on MS paint

@Mr.Myoozik
Typical DeviantART

@Mr.Myoozik
People who decided to put them here be like “If my eyes had to suffer, so should you!”

It would be one thing if it was just poorly drawn art, but the fact that it’s all stolen assets and even stolen artwork and vectors from other people is what annoys me. That and it’s a massive disservice towards the artists who does that kind of art really well, same thing for the artists for other fetishes and NSFW in general who have skills and talent.

Then again, even people who are above mindless “They changed it, now it sucks” rhetoric could easily disapprove of having everything Twilight & Friends fought for go straight down the toilet.

You know what? After all that negativity up there, I wanna say something nice. My Little Pony has some of the best strong female characters ever. Typical strong female characters like to have them be tough and hardy and emotionless, sometimes downright turning them into a dude instead of keeping them actually female. It’s so typical nowadays to make female characters do manly stuff to make them look tough and strong. They like fighting, hate girly things, and don’t need help. It honestly feels less “progressive” when people takes away the “female” part of female strong characters and instead just turn them into male which clearly indicates they still think male traits are the real “strong” traits.

My Little Pony doesn’t do that. Well, it does but it’s more diverse. We still have Rainbow Dash and Applejack (and even Rainbow Dash embraces a bit of feminity later), but all the other ponies celebrate feminity. And while there is that, the ponies still fight tough in defense of Equestria. It makes the female characters tough and strong while still keeping the feminine parts as important. Dress making and wearing can be cool too. Slumber parties can be cool too. Animal loving can be cool too. (Partially why I like Hitch so much. It’s actually pretty rare to see male characters that love animals in kids media.) MLP balances both toughness and softness really well. Characters can be tough and hardy but they can also be tender and gentle. MLP really overshadows everything else when it comes to strong female characters, and not many people talk about it.

@Just Wayne
Ah, the timeless positive trait of MLP:FiM.

You don’t always need to have a Mulan-like situation for strong females (One Piece, a well-known shonen anime, currently has Yamato, a trans-male, in a Mulan-like situation but with less gender pressure, even so, the series writer used to killed off the only female Logia and only female D. will carrier, and those 2 females were pretty feminine, and the Logia one, Monet is pretty strong, but it feels like the writer himself regretted created her, something the series still need fixing).

The diversity is the positive trait here, rarely found in media.

@DoctorWTF
That’s definitely a it’s a fucking show people moment

What is it about “criticisms” that make people think they have “authority” over other’s opinions? I’ve seen plenty of people (not necessarily just in this fandom) that are like, “nobody should be defending or liking this character/episode; it’s stupid.”

@Megalobronia
I don’t think it’s the criticism part, some people just operate on a mix between “there are always two sides to a story, mine and the wrong one” and “dinner will have to wait, someone is wrong on the internet!” I feel they’d act this way about anything, but maybe criticism is more likely to make them come out of the woodwork. Because something was found ‘wanting’ and ‘needs’ to be ‘corrected.’

There’s a lot of tyrants waiting to happen on the internet, I’ve found. and also people who ‘merely’ need to grow up, haha

Myself, I try not to be like that when I complain about criticize stuff. Again, results may vary. I like conversation but sadly I’m so negative and uninspired I don’t have much ‘feels good’ stuff to talk about. (Doesn’t help that there’s no general/positive discussion thread in the forums versus Unpopular Opinions plus Pony Venting…)

@Just Wayne
Now that you mention it, “strong female characters” do come off as the ‘classic’ male power fantasy, except the character’s female (and usually doesn’t have a top model on each arm).

It is nice that G4 shows that there’s nothing wrong with girls being feminine, masculine or a mix. When they have flaws, it’s never linked to being a woman/tomboy/etc’s thing. Maybe not quite the same on the other side of the gender fence though…

@DerpyFast
You’re right, these are all very good points. I still despise Tempest but that’s good insight.

I guess I was wrong when I said my issue on victims wasn’t linked to the villains. If it was like Kim Possible or Teen Titans, precisely, or even the Smurfs… worlds where harm is never permanent or even lasting. But there’s like a dissonance when the villains are welcomed into the fold, especially when they’re only ‘redeemed.’ Then it feels off and clashing to see the heroes be so chummy with them while their victims apparently don’t remember they even were victims.

About Misty, I’m not into G5 but she’s the one who’d make me interested in watching if I didn’t dislike everything else (save the movie). That said, my point wasn’t concern for the ‘important character/protagonist’ victim. See Fluttershy. My point was concern for the victims no one else cares about in the show (except for saving them from evil in the first place, thankfully… though a lot of that only came from Celestia ordering the Mane Six to confront the problem).

And yeah, Luna’s one of my favorite redeemed villains… because she’s actually redeemed. Or hell, even just actually just nice, see the lavender bit from A Royal Problem.

There’s this thread, but other than my two cents, it hasn’t been active for years.

@Megalobronia
The last non-Megalobronia post in that thread predates Rainbow Roadtrip, in fact.

@Megalobronia
@Wiimeiser
Thanks. That’s what I meant, most (long-going) discussion threads were already dead by the time I joined the site.

Anyway. I think I finally TLDRed my issue with G4’s redemptions. It’s not actual redemption, it’s just going “well, let’s pretend I never did any of all those horrible deeds, then.”

Even Sunset was trying to convince people she’s not the same anymore rather than actually trying to make up for her actions. “My Past Is Not Today,” yeah. I think Luna’s the only exception but my memory’s bad.

@Roseluck
Well, the constant mention of what they did kind of speaks otherwise for me, even if it’s just to poke fun at them. They probably just understand things happened and trying to change the past is impossible so they try to look forward to the future instead of dwelling on the past. Sure the sudden forgiveness feels rushed but I really like the idea of these villains being self-aware and cringe at their past self. Them deciding not to repeat their old way feels like they actually reform. When it comes to redemption, it’s impossible to control how others feel about you and change your past, the only thing you can control is yourself.

Of course, when someone is still doing exactly what they did and lack the self-awareness to realize that despite having been reformed, is a different story altogether.