The Anti-Censorship DNP Pledge

@Inucroft  

 
You can’t make a claim like “I’ve been telling Nazis to fuck off your YEARS” if from what we can see of your public discourse records suggests otherwise. Your public record suggests you didn’t actually think any of this was a genuine problem because nowhere in your public record have you made any attempts to even start talking about these issues until 5 days ago. Not a single suggestion in either a comment or a forum post.
 
You have no proof that you’ve been “telling them to fuck off for YEARS”. The only proof that exists is that, again, publicly you haven’t brought this up once, until 5 days ago.

@Background Pony #40B0  
And?
 
Moreover, I can’t seem to check your comment history, as your posting as an Anon.  
See the issue here?
 
I’ve just had enough, and I’m happy to peg my actual name to this issue. And not hide behind the Anon check box, nor keep it to Dms or emails.
 
So how about you uncheck the anon-box and show your support for the Anti-censorship crowd?

@Datte-Before-Dawn  
Downvoting fetish stuff instead of filtering is an old problem and we’ve had to wipe people’s votes and ban them for it many times, it’s just that recently there appeared to be coordinated efforts to downvote certain images for political reasons.  
As to Aryanne, I don’t think there’s been anything similar on such images, in large part because they’re relatively uncommon and generally liked by the crowd that’s likely to view votes as the way to go after things, I think. And it definitely would be a cause to ban someone if they kept downvoting Aryanne images instead of filtering, even after warnings.

@Princess Luna  
I mean, that also defeats the point of the upvote/downvote system.
 
Because, filtering ignores the issue.

@Inucroft  
You can’t be a hero all the time. Trying too hard makes you a villain.

@Skoon  
If that is how you interpret it, kay.
 
Sorry for being British and calling out issues aye?

@Inucroft  
They gotta point, chief… And uh, not gonna lie. You’re falling for some MAD obvious bait right now.

@Inucroft  
I’m just saying, there’s a reason I changed my mind.

@Loopers  
Open honesty is the best solution.

@Princess Luna  
Would you ban a group of users that constantly downvote Aryanne art, or would you give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren’t coordinating their actions?  
Do you ban people for upvote bombing or just downvoting?

@Background Pony #13F1  
And how would you tell if a group are coordinating their actions?

@Skoon  
Careful now. Them’s fighting words.
 
 
Imjokingdonthurtme

@Inucroft  
How do mods usually tell?

@Inucroft  
The same way they can tell that people downvoting BLM art were coordinating.

@Loopers  
WHY YOU! A WISE GUY, EH?
 
Sorry I love the three stooges too much. haha

@Inucroft  
Good question, and the burden of proof lies on the accuser.

@Skoon  
Don’t apologize for having top tier taste, I used to love that shit as a kid!

@Inucroft  
Probably by seeing if its like the same addresses always downvoting the same thing all the time
 
It doesn’t prove coordination but it at least proves these people just aren’t filtering something to downvote it instead

@Princess Luna  
>Coordinate attempts  
OR  
People don’t like shitty art and it gets downvoted, and then artists clutch to “t-they’re just racists” because their shitty art happened to have some politically correct message copypasted on it  
Care to explain why dilarious is a VIP? Why is the guy who tried to fucking burn derpy to the ground a first class citizen all of a sudden?

@Princess Luna  
“Coordinated effort”, eh? What an interesting way to spell “hundreds of users consider these specific images to be obnoxious, while not minding the not in-your-face/crime-promoting ones anywhere as much”.
 
Oh, and “use filters” is inapplicable because users tend to not care or even want to see non-obnoxious images under that tag; and the appropriate tag to put on such images tends to not be applied, or be removed by people in erroneous belief it’s unapplicable.

@Loopers  
I still do! Arguably even more now as an adult since I understand their history, time period, and some of their more nuanced set ups.

Hey look, how crazy!  
 
Black lives mater and good art that has includes its themes into the composition and… positive score. 119 favs 120 points. Comfortably within Engel’s average scores.  
But no, it’s nto that so much of it is shitty. It’s the evil nazis.

@Inucroft  

 
It’s indicative you didn’t think this was actually a problem (despite claiming you thought it was a problem for years).
 
@Inucroft  

 
No, because I am not advocating for the removal of anything. I’m advocating that Derpibooru just goes back to what is was like a month ago before people pretended there was a problem. I’m also not trying to take some kind of “purity” stance. I’m not trying to discredit your argument by saying “Oh he likes [x] content, don’t listen to him!”. I’m discrediting your claim of “I’ve been complaining about Nazis for YEARS” by blatantly showing that to be false through your own actions.
 
I’m not trying to moral police anyone. I’m trying to show that moral policing is bad.

@Cammera
 
@Barhandar  
Ironically probably because people didn’t use their filters instead…thats actually funny if that is the case

@Skoon  
Timeless humor, blessed. The wonders of slapstick will always hold a special place in my smol brain.