Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@Meanlucario
Agreed.

Oh no I am not saying that it has not happen, but it’s possible that it could happen. Which if it does, it’s like what @CaptainXtra said. The thing about MAGA is that they want you to live in fear which is their idolism way of winning in every single election they see fit. They feel as though pump more and more of this on the internet, the more ways they are going to win elections unfortunately.

@Background Pony #5B93
That’s doubtful, in all fairness.

I mean yeah, good on her for passing the lowest bar ever: not being an America-hating traitor. I’m not taking that away from her, that is an accomplishment for Republicans anymore.

But sheesh.

I see your point, but to the ones who completely uneducated, it will work on them. It will even work on the ones who have not paid any attention to politics at all and will find misinformation on those type of things coming from MAGA. Elon is the prime example of that.

@Background Pony #5B93
Serious question, but why is it that out of all the Trump assassination attempts, it’s ALL been Trump voters/supporters doing it? (Or at least, very Right leaning people)

@Background Pony #1F81
Well in order to be a Trump supporter you need to be an asshole, stupid, or crazy. Most murderous types check all three boxes.

That said, the first shooter was just a run of the mill school shooter, but class was out. The second was a complete mental case and should have been interred over a decade ago. And this guy we don’t know much about yet, but I don’t think he meant to kill Trump (or he planned things extremely poorly). For all we know he just wanted to off himself in his dream car in front of the most beautiful place he could imagine.

Seeing folks “joke” that the definition of the word “useless” should just be a picture of Merrick Garland.

They “joke”, which really confuses me when it’s just plain fact.

@The Smiling Pony
I don’t know about you but I’m sick of the far-right having a near-complete monopoly on violent radicalization and extremism. There aren’t really any far-left types aside from maybe Luigi, and even his inclusion is debatable.

@IWTCIEM
That’s a very american problem to have, where I was raised people had to deal with far left radicals bombing shopping centers and kidnapping and executing journalists and public workers.

I’m curious, what’s been the position of average Christians on Gaza?

When I say “average” I mean normal citizens that aren’t lying politicians.

@The Smiling Pony
UK or Ireland I assume? I do know left-wing extremism was rife from the late 1960s to late 1980s before the far-right had it all to themselves.

@IWTCIEM
Italy (with the Red Brigades), West Germany (with the Red Army Faction aka the Baader-Meinhof group), and Spain (with the Maoists of GRAPO and the separatists of ETA) also had similar problems, among others.
France also had some troublemakers, but none that reached the same heights in terror as the right-wingers of OAS during the Algerian Independence War (although Carlos the Jackal might’ve come the closest).

@IWTCIEM
I’m sick of there being violent radicalization and extremism, their political views be damned.

@Background Pony #5B93
Elon had a great PR team that worked night and day to keep him quiet. Than he bought Twitter and their hard work fell apart.

That right there sounds similar to Trump saying “very fine people on both sides.” The far-right and far-left are NOT the same.

The far-right has killed hundreds of innocent children, minorities and POC. The far-left by contrast has never managed to kill that many people, but when they do their targets are corrupt CEOs and fascists.

The far-right’s end goal is to perpetuate a state of endless war and genocide like the Major in Hellsing, whereas the far-left wants to end capitalist exploitation and destruction of the environment.

Again, they are not the same.

@IWTCIEM
And I never said they were. I was saying that extremism is bad period. I’m well aware most are on the far/alt right, but I’m also saying the left being just as bad wouldn’t help anyone than those who want to see people suffer. And if anything, you saying that the left should be more like the right’s violent radicalization and extremism is closer to trying to make them the same than what I said.

Pleas shut the fuck up and stop spewing utter nonsense.

@The Smiling Pony
I’m much more familiar with things here in the USA. Think you can tell me recent fucked up actions of the left?

@Meanlucario
In Spain, ETA, a far-left terror organization, terrorized the civilian populace for decades. They may have started out as being against Franco’s regime, but long after he was dead and the country was fully democratic, they still enjoyed bombing shopping malls, killing children, executing journalists and random civil servants. And they never repented.

They’re not unique, at all. Europe was full of these sorts and several groups still linger. More globally, you have the FARC and Shining Path slaughtering whoever they please in south America, and the middle east has been littered with rolling terror groups that declare themselves far left, not just jihadist or islamist.

This isn’t a “both sides” thing; people that think mass murder is justifiable don’t do it for some ideology, they do it because they want to kill people and the ideology is the excuse. Violent leftist rhetoric has been popular worldwide, so the psychos gravitated towards that. Now that the US is the center of the world and righties there are insane, the violent psychos naturally go for that.

@The Smiling Pony
Using left-wing rhetoric to justify violence, wasn’t that Stalin’s MO?

@The Smiling Pony
Thanks. And yeah, people who want a massacre aren’t inherently right or left, but will side with those who enable them. As the saying goes, “man or woman, straight or gay, black or white, left or right, anyone can be an asshole.”

@ᎶㄖҜㄩ 乃ㄥ卂匚Ҝ
Wouldn’t surprise me honestly. I recalled that he used communism as an excuse to be a dictator.

It reminds me of an inside joke among the the community for the Hearts of Iron IV mod The New Order: Last Days of Europe.

It was a running gag of certain ideologies in-game to get boiled down to “killpeopleism,” a term that stuck.

The House is now voting on the next Speaker.

And Johnson has already failed to get enough votes. We don’t have a Speaker yet.

@Dustcan
Didn’t we have this happen a few months ago?