Mario Discussion

@Prof.NightJack
 
Well, back when Bowser Jr. first appeared in Super Mario Sunshine back in 2002, the Koopalings hadn’t shown up for a long time, and in between 2002 and 2009 the Koopalings only showed up once, in 2003’s Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, and were originally going to be the bosses of Super Princess Peach before being cut from the game and replaced with Sunshine bosses and a couple original ones, whereas Bowser Jr. appeared far more often in that time frame. For 7 years, it looked like Bowser Jr. pretty much HAD replaced the Koopalings, to the point where the reveal of their new designs for New Super Mario Bros. Wii was a genuine shock to a lot of people.

@Jades  
Funny thing, that can also applied to the Koopalings. Some people are seeing them being overused, most complaints goes to Mario Kart 8 for filling in so many slots and replacing favorable characters.
 
I personally believe the Koopalings are starting to get in the way of mainstream Mario platform as bosses a little too much. Instead of expecting new boss characters or other returning bosses, the Koopalings took over their places for 3 games straight.
 
At least they brought back Boom Boom for fortress battles in NSMBU, but I wished they did more for fortress boss fights like the final fortress for the Boss Sumo Bro.  

@SuperDEF  
Koopalings and Boom Boom. Are the main stream bosses.

@SuperDEF
 
…What?

@SuperDEF  
Luigi, stop giving the death glare, you will never get in a relationship if you keep doing that!

@Jarkes  
I just thought it was funny.
 
 
@Prof.NightJack  
Lolwut? Everybody knows that girls want bad boys. Luigi is going to get laid multiple times for this.

@SuperDEF  
But this is Luigi, his death glare isn’t him being a bad boy, it means DEATH.

Y’know, Bowser gets some pretty kick-ass boss themes.
 
@SuperDEF  
One of my favorite scenes in that movie.

Y’know, in regards to the Koopaling discussion, and about them filling to many character/boss slots, I actually thought it was clever how in the new SSB games, they use them as alternate color/costume schemes for Bowser Jr.‘s clown car. It was a nice way to include them without taking to many fighter slots.
 
Plus, honestly I always liked them better then Jr. (Remember him being an overused boss in NewSMB 1. as well.)
 
Also, I can understand some missing the Koopalings’ original orgins being Bowser’s kids, but you know what else isn’t canon anyone either? The Mario Brothers being plumbers. A guy at Nintendo Power years back said Miyamoto never even considered them such. Though, it gets confusing sense some of the RPG games refered to them as plumbers, and the intro to “3D World” shows them doing plumbing work with a warp pipe. So I don’t know if it’s canon, or not.

@Solitude
 
What movie is that scene from?

@Jarkes  
Terminator 2

@Beau Skunky  

 
It’s more likely canon than Mario being a licensed doctor. Miyamoto did claimed that Dr Mario isn’t canon to Mario’s profession beacuse he finds such a concept silly. It’s not hard to believe that someone like Mario, a man who can literally do anything, can also be a doctor. But if ‘ol Shiggy thinks it weird…then okay?
 
All I have say about the Koopalings, if this is what Miyamoto wanted to portrayed them in their relationship to Bowser, at least give a much better reasonable excuse for the change and a backstory about their origins to help further make that official.
 
If Bowser Jr is going to be Bowser’s only son who came out of nowhere, at least claim that Jr was once delivered by the Stork at some point.
 
If the Koopalings are going to be High Ranking Generals of the Koopa Troop with no other relations to Bowser, at least say the Koopalings work under him and their mom and dad enlisted them to join, or they joined on their on free will, or whatever. Anything is better than what Miyamoto and Nintendo provided. That’s one of the main reason many fans aren’t taking it seriously.

@SuperDEF  

@igotnopicks  
 
Heeeere’s Weegee!!

@SuperDEF
 

 

 

 
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…when was Mario ever NOT silly? Did I miss the memo that listed which Mario games were supposed to be taken seriously? Some of the oldest, most abused jokes in gaming culture center around the silly aspects of the Mario games. The Sonic games are less silly than the Mario games, and that’s saying alot, considering they revolve around a blue anthropomorphic hedgehog with the same gimmick as Speedy Gonzales, a head at least twice as large as his torso and a pair of eyes that looks a failure in mitosis. Hell, I didn’t even think Nintendo took their own flagship seriously enough to keep an official canon; I thought they just scribbled out whatever they thought the game in question could get by on and focused on what they allegedly do best: the gameplay.

@archestereo  
Well, he didn’t make Dr. Mario, which might be why. As much as I love Miyamoto, he doesn’t seem to regard the Mario games he didn’t make himself much. (Except the Kart & SSB series.) In fact he didn’t make the “Super Mario Land” games either, which is why features, areas, and characters/enemies from them never appear in the main action Mario games. (Even though SMG would’ve been the perfect opportunity to bring back Tatanga.)  
Aside from Wario & Daisy appearing in the sports/kart/party games, but they’ve never appeared in any main action or RPG games.

@SuperDEF  

@archestereo  
Miyamoto tends to filp-flop with his knowledge on the Mario series as a whole. I rather think its best for him to not touchdown on the subject of what’s canon and non-canon. I don’t think I’ll appreciate the results of his final word-in.
 
@Beau Skunky  
I’m starting to get a understanding of Miyamoto’s decisions and meddling with development on certain aspects of Mario games; if he didn’t make it, he cares little for it…with some exceptions, but that’s far in-between.
 
@Solitude  

@ColdhardSilver  
Wow, that’s pretty entertaining and educational.
 
Even more wow, there’s already rule34 base on that video. Amazing.

@SuperDEF  
Dude’s figured out how to do some crazy shit

Get hyped!
 
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 is coming to the Wii U Virtual Console tomorrow. And it will have ALL of the e-Reader levels available from the start. Though I do wonder if you’ll also get access to the non-level e-Reader cards, like some of the power-ups or other things that changed the mechanics of the game.

@Jarkes  
Pretty neato considering the fact that NA only got a few of the levels and the EU got…none.

@ColdhardSilver
 
…Well, I at least presume it’s going to have all of the e-Reader levels and not just the ones that were originally available in the US.