Mario Discussion

@archestereo  
So what your saying is if you don’t change a lot then it’s like changing nothing?  
Because that’s how you are coming off, like any changes they make mean nothing if it’s not lot.
 
Because that;s the thing, they change things enough to where it;s NOT the same game, but you seem to claim it’s all the same.

@igotnopicks
 
…again, Mario Maker is pretty much just a stripped down version of Little Big Planet?
 
So you can make Mario levels. Big Fucking whoop. People have made everything from pinball tables to twin stick shooters in the LBP games.

@archestereo  
The difference between Mario Game and Little Big Planet is the gameplay.
 
If you played Mario Bros 1,3, Mario World, and New Mario Bros. For once Mario hasn’t really changed it story.
 
I don’t think it ever will. Because Mario has good gameplay.

@Prof.NightJack
 
They’re minor tweaks and superficial gimmicks that anybody else would get called out for; I’m not gonna go out and get a second Monopoly game just because there’s an edition where the graphics and pieces are swapped with shit related to Star Wars and the banking system is electronic.

@archestereo  
I”m getting sick of this, somthing tells me you will never understand that people like Mario for the gameplay, that it works that it doesn’t need big changes to it.  
Hell Mario 64 was only a big change from the fact it was from 2d to 3d, but other then that it’s the same sold gameplay of the older game.
 
 
I bet you first game system was not one of the early ones…..

@igotnopicks
 
“The difference between Mario Game and Little Big Planet is the gameplay.”
 
…have you even played Little Big Planet? You can literally recreate the NES games! Mario Maker does nothing that Little Big Planet can’t do! The “good gameplay” you’re talking about is literally what we expect from pretty much every platformer! It’s like saying Galaga has good gameplay! No shit, every bullet hell ever plays like Galaga!

@Prof.NightJack
 
…wow, really? That’s all you got from it? The level design was unprecedented, you were earning stars instead of just going from point A to point B, and I’m pretty sure Mario never threw a frickin’ punch before!

I’ll never understand what it is with Mario fanboys and not being able to grasp the concept of some people not liking playing the same thing over and over again - especially when Mario’s formula is a very basic and bare bones platformer that has been improved and added to in practically every platforming franchise that came after it.
 
There is plenty reason for people not to be happy with that. Some people don’t want the same shit over and over and over again. Others don’t mind. This person is clearly in the former category while you two are in the latter. It isn’t difficult to figure as much out.
 
If you like Mario then you like Mario and that’s just dandy, but for fuck’s sake, don’t dogpile this guy for what’s basically a subjective criticism at it’s very core.

@archestereo  
Wow, now you are talking of a small change like it;s a big deal, like it changes everything.  
It’s the platforming that is the gameplay people like in a Mario game  
Sounding like a hypocrite now dude.

@ghostfacekiller39  
It’s one thing to not like it, it’s another to criticize the things you don’t like about them like it’s wrong for the fans to like that.  
As I said, I’m not really a fan of the main Mario game, but I can see why people like them and understand that, so I’m not going to act like it;s so wrong for the game to be the way they are.
 
“If you like Mario then you like Mario and that’s just dandy, but for fuck’s sake, don’t dogpile this guy for what’s basically a subjective criticism at it’s very core.”  
Same goes for if you don’t like Mario, take that shit of getting on someone for liking it someplace where the fans don’t have to see it., it’s just going to start a shitpile.

@archestereo  
I have played Little Big Planet.
 
I thought it was okay. But I don’t see it changing it’s core gameplay for the other titles.

@Prof.NightJack  
Soooo…you’re a hypocrite, then?
 
I mean, it’s not like you don’t have a tendency to try and shame people for having differing thoughts than you, regardless of how much water the criticisms hold or how chalked up to personal taste they are.
 
Oh…wait, I forgot, you do that with people in the Sonic thread over Sonic 06, and then you’ve even done this exact same thing in the past with Mario when I said that I didn’t like it because of how stagnant the series was. When somebody said they didn’t want to play Undertale in videogame general, you flipped the fuck out on them for it, too. One, two…three.
 
Three times off of the top of my head where you did the same exact thing for what you’re trying to jump all over this guy for supposedly doing.
 
So yeahh, no. Practice what you preach before trying to deliver a sermon.

@Prof.NightJack
 
…or, you know, facecious.
 
But seriously, I was able to do load of shit that I wasn’t able to do in other Mario games; whereas most of the others are pretty much just “hop’n’bob” to the right, I was crawling all over maps whose crossections could’ve served as stand alone levels, complete all sorts of objectives and discovering shit like underwater castles! It didn’t even use traditional power-ups! The closest thing was the wing cap, and even that didn’t function the same way the Raccoon Suit or Cape did; the other two aren’t even close! Hell, despite fighting Bowser three different times, at least the fight actually changed each time! In fact, everything was constantly changing; the more stars you got and the more secrets you found, the more the castle would open up and change! The frickin’ Crash Bandicoot games were more like 3D Mario games than Mario 64 was (and yeah, those games don’t impress me either).

@ghostfacekiller39  
Oh I forgot who this was, the person that sees someone trying to have a discussion as shamming other.  
Your not one to tell others to practice what they preach when you don;t even attempt to even understand what they are saying in the first place.
 
If trying to explain things is “flipping the fuck out” then what do you call what you keep doing to me?

@igotnopicks
 
That’s because it’s core gameplay is every game you could possibly dream up; it’s basically just more comprehensive with each game (although LBP2 pissed me off when it got stuck in a loop and forced me to restart the PS3, corrupting the file before Sony even introduced PS Plus, so I haven’t played the games since).

Okay, I’m just going to say this as a way to stop these argument.  
If you don’t care for the Mario games, any of them, can you please get out of the thread so more shit doesn’t start?

@Prof.NightJack  

 
@Prof.NightJack  

 
Alright, bye.

@ghostfacekiller39  
See, you don;‘t even try to understand anything I have said.  
Key word in my comment that you clearly ignored, MAIN.
 
Now will you stop bugging me, all you do is get on my back beuse I’m not talking the way you like, GET OFF MY BACK YOU JERK!!

@Prof.NightJack  

 
 
@Prof.NightJack  

 
I don’t see what I’m missing out on here, you clearly just said that if there’s a Mario game that you don’t care for then you have to leave :V

@Prof.NightJack
 
You’re the one who started it in the first place! I made one offhanded comment in a post that was actually mostly positive, then you immediately tried to make an example of me and I had to call you out on your bullshit!

@ghostfacekiller39  
And you said I can’t understand anything but in the literal terms…..
 
 
@archestereo  
I did no such thing, I just pointed out that they are not “superficial rehashes” becoue they do change things, you had then commented like nothing is changes with how you talked of the spin-pff like they are all the same as well.
 
You are being like ghostface, acting like anything said that isn;t to you liking means someone is calling you out or some shit…
 
“I had to call you out on your bullshit!”  
So by that then it’s bullshit that there are any changes to the Mario games at all? Because that’s what my comments where about.

@Prof.NightJack
 
Says you. It’s not like I was talking out my butt when I made that comment. I’ve played a wide variety of games, including Mario games, so I have a frame of reference to go by. As he and I have both tried to point out, the core gameplay that you keep saying is good enought to validate the games is the standard; it’s more like a piece of the gameplay than it’s own thing, thus it looks bare and stagnant compared to other games that actually have gameplay unique to it’s own franchise. As far as the platformers go, Mario 64 did the most to change the gameplay. The return to 2D was pretty much a huge step backwards, and while the first spin-offs may have been unique (technically, Sonic Drift came out before Super Mario Kart), even the “sub-franchises” quickly stagnated.

RPG Bowser is best King of Awesome ever.

@Prof.NightJack  
@ghostfacekiller39  
@archestereo
 
Cut it out.

@Solitude
 
Oh yeah, I’ll agree with you on that one. He was also pretty badass in the Galaxy games.