@Background Pony #F368  

 
Successful necro.

@NounVerb  
Again, this is just your angry opinion. Trying to compare even the worst that the FiM staff has ever produced to something from Gen 3.5 is ridiculous. There hasn’t been an episode to date centering entirely around a tea party or the girls just braiding each others’ hair for 23 straight minutes. Though, now that I think about it, there was an episode all the way back in Season One about a slumber party. Huh, weird.
 
Next, let’s talk about world-building, because obviously there’s been none of that recently.
 
In the last two seasons we’ve seen:
 

@Joseph Raszagal  
I agree, things don’t have to have dark implications to be good. You’re not disagreeing with me in any way, so how about you hush up? They’re excusing lazy writing by saying “it’s just a show for little girls!”, which is the same kind of mentality that took the original MLP animation from an actually decent adventure show for both boys and girls into the unwatchable abomination that gen 3.5 was.
 
The earlier seasons had far more world building episodes, and more instances of things happening that had a bit of meat and complexity behind them. You had worldbuilding that showed a variety of different fantasy creatures in what might be situations you wouldn’t expect them to be. A minotaur can be a touring motivational speaker, for example. There are deep gorges with snakes in the walls that will try to eat you if you go down there, and RD uses that for practice and brings along a bunch of pets to see who’ll do the best job of making it through. There’re hints and descriptions of what the history and mythology of the series was before the coming of the alicorns, and the implications of the alicorns completely upending the structure of the society. (At least before they cranked out almost one new alicorn every season).
 
There was real stuff to discuss that had valid views all around. Taking a Jim Jones cult leader and putting him back into Jonestown with the people he was controlling was one of the biggest missteps here.
 
Just because something was in a kids show, doesn’t mean that it can’t be dark. Going back to the first bit of animated MLP ever, the villain threatened to kill his underling to motivate him to work. A death threat from a superpowerful asshole probably counts as dark. Kids can handle really dark material. Some of the deeper implications will probably go over their heads, but think of it like this:
 
“Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed.”  
-G.K. Chesterson
 
Remember Animorphs? It was a series that was marketed to elementary school kids, and it was really, really dark.

@NounVerb  
Reading this comment in the Superboy Prime voice.

@NounVerb  
Oh, hush up. Something needn’t have dark implications in order to be thought provoking. I was thoroughly pleased with this season. Just because you weren’t doesn’t mean the show’s being “run into the ground”, ya big silly.

@Background Pony #F368  
And?
 
On a side note, thank you for posting in this comment thread. The show’s been being run into the ground for years, but I’m very thankful for being reminded that this show used to have genuine good elements in it that provoked a lot of good thought and debate.
 

@Timstro59  

 
But it’s canon.

Twilight… don’t.

Twilight: “DON’T YOU DARE TALK IN MY PINKIE’S VOICE! You’re never going to hurt my brother again…”
 
Pinkie 2: “You… brother?”
 
Twilight: “My f-friends! You’re never going to hurt my FRIENDS again!”
 
Real Pinkie: “Twilight… Stop. This isn’t the same. It wasn’t their fault.”
 
Twilight: “These impostors overran our town! They ruined your life! If that wasn’t their fault, whose was it?!”
 
Real Pinkie: “It was mine. THEY were mine. I should have been their friend.”

@Niggoslav_Krawczyk  
The panel might predate Snaptrap, actually….

@Scrounge Ah. Right Snaptrap doesn’t have those wing-looking things. Just reusing a design I guess.

@Niggoslav_Krawczyk  
Think it might be, but not sure. And that’s just some random generic no-toy Decepticon, not Snaptrap. So his face just is ugly. :D

@Scrounge Geeeze that looks old. Is that from the UK one?  
Also wow the turtle guy’s face looks ugly in the comics. I only had the toy of him.

@Background Pony #D042  
Glad you like.
 
 
@Niggoslav_Krawczyk  
Or to flip the script a bit…  

Such heroic nonsense

@Scrounge  
Wow, awesome!

Twilight: Though you show more intelligence than the others, it doesn’t mean you have genuine sentience. And I want my real friend back.
 
Pinkie Clone: I could be real! Don’t take away all I could ever be!
 
Twilight: I’m sorry honestly. But you can’t continue to exist under the circumstances that have been caused by your fellow clones, and thus must be dealt with.

@Timstro59  
I just looked it up, and yeah, that’s the movie. I think I liked the weirdness, but they could have gone a good deal further with a few things. I think I caught it on TV near the beginning.

@NounVerb  
You mean “The Island”?
 
Great movie. A little weird though, as movies go.

@CoolandAvergaeGuy  
The movie about growing clones of people and using them as packages of backup organs for rich people? Yes, I saw it. I even found it pretty decent overall.
 
I was responding to the quote used more than the argument you were trying to make with it.
 
I’m not that clear on exactly what you were trying to say with that quote. I just assumed you were making a further supporting argument for the “this is murder” side by saying that she was killing functioning tissue as well as real minds and (arguably) soul.

@NounVerb  
Did you watch the movie that quote is from,or are you just responding to what it’s talking about in general?

@SRD639  
I stand by my headcanon of Twilight thinking of the clones like they were changelings, and further question whether the level of force she used on the changelings was a result of her deliberately going easy on them, rather than just using the level of force that was quickest rather than wasting time trying to make sure they were down for good (they were on a deadline, after all).

@ZuTheSkunk  
That’s an awesome premise.
 
@CoolandAvergaeGuy  
Which we’re just supposed to accept as axiomatic, because the mad scientist stereotype hasn’t quite died out yet. Hell, we’re already cloning ears onto lab mice. We’re 3d printing kidneys and other organs!
 
I’d almost call it a case of “science marches on”, like that movie that came out with the plot about the surface of the earth breaking up. Then we got more evidence for plate tectonics.

@SRD639  
“After several years of trial and error we discovered that without a consciousness, without human experience, emotion, without life the organs failed.”

@DragonBoi471  
Welp. I know what I’m reading tonight.