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moonlightaveger

But at least it’s “get them out of the story by doing something that requires alicorn-level power while the main characters do the questing” instead of “get them out of the story by making them totally useless and captured in two seconds.” The Tree of Harmony is gone, so the Everfree grows out of control like in season four, which keeps the m6 from going after King Sombra. The Princesses and Starswirl casually zap away huge amounts of it while telling them to go onward because they’ve got this.
 
I disagree. First of all, for all the formidable enemies MLP has put in the show, those were a bunch of plants that the Mane 6 were keeping at bay with gardening tools. The things were just persistent… If you had a character with a cutie mark on gardening the thing would’ve been done. I would agree if we were talking about fighting some actually awesome enemy, like Tirek was, and allowing Twilight and co. to do whatever. Not to mention that this episode literally called the princesses on being useless. They needed something impressive.
 
Additionally, trying to show the princesses as being powerful, at this point, is not only insulting to the audience by pretending the cartoon never had a problem with that, but not even trying to fix it. No to mention that it’s not the princesses. It was both of them and Star Swirl. The problem is Celestia as a character, because we know that Luna is powerful as fuck and so is Star Swirl. (Kudos to casually reviving someone, by the way…) Celestia is just along for the ride and we still know nothing about how powerful she’s supposed to be, because, if she was ALONE and managed to do that, then it would’ve been impressive. But I bet a finger the cartoon won’t find time for her like it did for Luna and Cadance.
 
It’s the kind of thing I wish they’d been doing all along. They’re obviously not going to be so on top of everything that the main cast isn’t needed, but they’ve got all this power and spent the backstory kicking flank and taking names to the point where many a main threat has as its origin, “so-and-so terrorized the populace until Tia and Lulu showed up; it’s taken a thousand years since then to recover and now they’re back!” So let’s see what they can do, though of course in a way that doesn’t mean Twi and co. can go home and eat hayburgers all day.
 
Celestia just turned out to be a bad, poorly designed character that just can’t be used in the show. There is nothing in the cartoon that required her to rule Equestria, to be powerful (both politically or magically), and the thing that defined her character before they turned her into a goofball idiot is completely bastardized by now and the fact that she tutored Twilight is a long forgotten footnote on Twilight’s character. She’s just pointless and never does any of the things she’s supposed to do.
 
So, what we actually needed was an episode that let her be awesome for a while before all the bullshit the cartoon has done with her. To some extend like they did with Luna. And most important, since all Celestia does is get her ass handed to her when she’s by herself, she needed to be a ‘political character’, one that made things happen thought her position in the kingdom. But then, that is pointless because: 1) the cartoon is not political in nature; 2) she’s completely lost any shred of regality or majesty; 3) the cartoon never bothered to show how important she was in any capacity to Equestria. People at the helm have no idea how to write a queen, even less one that is unconventional, and it murdered her character.
 
So it’s not about Luna and Celestia fixing everything like people throw around in this argument since season 2: it’s about them being the goddamn rulers.
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@moonlightaveger  
But at least it’s “get them out of the story by doing something that requires alicorn-level power while the main characters do the questing” instead of “get them out of the story by making them totally useless and captured in two seconds.” The Tree of Harmony is gone, so the Everfree grows out of control like in season four, which keeps the m6 from going after King Sombra. The Princesses and Starswirl casually zap away huge amounts of it while telling them to go onward because they’ve got this.
 
It’s the kind of thing I wish they’d been doing all along. They’re obviously not going to be so on top of everything that the main cast isn’t needed, but they’ve got all this power and spent the backstory kicking flank and taking names to the point where many a main threat has as its origin, “so-and-so terrorized the populace until Tia and Lulu showed up; it’s taken a thousand years since then to recover and now they’re back!” So let’s see what they can do, though of course in a way that doesn’t mean Twi and co. can go home and eat hayburgers all day.
 
We also got mention that maybe the usual uselessness is so the main cast would have to do things on their own and grow from it. Good evidence that it’s true is that they actually have no trouble with the very same Everfree foliage that supposedly captured them easily back in season four.
 
So yeah, this was a good one for them.
moonlightaveger

So… I suppose that Everfree is the Frozen North all over again?  
Eh, it was nice seeing Celestia doing something even if Luna was there too, and so was Star Swirl and the whole scene was filler.