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Aye. Heck, he pillars and starswirl were brought back thanks to them not filling in holes until they felt they should.
The season 8 opener may give some new info on that, may even include a flash back, if the new animatics are anything to go by.
Jesus Christ I really need to start
proofreading
I’m fond of the idea of going forward in a pleasing manner, then shaping the past to make it fit properly.
The past events have plenty of holes, but really that lets a clever writer fill it in later when they want to bring something up at a later date.
IE: how Cadance, Shining armor, the discovery/imprisonment in the crystal mines under canterlot, and the Changeling attack, all took place in the first place.
I mean it can’t be interesting lore it did not give.
people seem to forget that the show never gave the lore about things like alicorns
MLP is a character driven slice of life show, not a high fantasy epic.
Either way, I think our little Pony show with all of the canonicaly inconsistent lore needs more work done to it. :p
Here is the difference; Celestia and Luna were born into the destiny of moving the sun and the moon. That act alone cost dozens of unicorns their lifetime supply of magic and nothing else in equestria has really required so much magic. When Luna and Celestia were naturally powerful enough to do these roles, the extinguishing of unicorn magic stopped and equestria, proper, could prosper.
But now a new alicorn popped up for… no reason?
What grand power is required of her? Twilight and Cadance had to do something special to ascend, but the ascension from birth seems to indicate a grand purpose that shapes the world.
Now, back to your statement, you mentioned “What if Chrysalis is/was an alicorn?”
A terrifying thought that an alicorn would be so enveloped in her lust for total dominion that she’d turn this way, but in Canterlot Wedding, she mentions that Equestria is the most love saturated place she’s been, so technically she’d not have come from equestria. A pony not from equestria? And an alicorn princess, no less?
I’m not so sure, I really think she’s just a mimic species.
I don’t think I am. Due to Celestia and Luna’s shock at Flurry Heart being born an Alicorn, it shows they were surprised that it was possible. If they were both born as Alicorns, they should’ve known it was possible and as such shouldn’t have been surprised. Flurry Heart being the only Alicorn baby “in Equestria” shouldn’t matter, as the location of birth has no impact on the child’s genetics.
TL;DR:
If Celestia and Luna were born as Alicorns, they shouldn’t have been surprised by Flurry Heart being born an Alicorn, because they would know from their own existance that it’s possible.
Them being surprised at Flurry Heart being an Alicorn from birth implies they didn’t know it was possible and therefor would make it very hard to believe that both of them were born as Alicorns.
Please do not move the goalposts.
It would still seem odd for them to be surprised at Flurry Heart’s birth, especially due to Cadence being an Alicorn herself. Celestia is clearly older than Luna and thus would’ve been around for Luna’s birth, meaning she shouldn’t have been surprised by Flurry Heart being an Alicorn if the two of them were also born as Alicorns. Flurry being the first Alicorn to be born in Equestria also doesn’t really count, considering the Crystal Empire is considered seperate from Equestria due to the fact that it’s an empire with its own ruler.
That’s kind of like saying “This is the first Japanese baby born in America”, the country/kingdom they’re born in shouldn’t be a factor, and if Celestia and Luna were both Alicorns since birth, neither of them should’ve been surprised.
Um, that’s not what they said. They said an alicorn had never been born in equestria before. Celestia and Luna aren’t from equestria.
Edited because: Stupid spellchecker.
Except Celestia and Luna weren’t born as Alicorns, as they didn’t even know it was possible until Flurry Heart was born.
Just like how Princess Celestia and Luna were born as alicorns,
was Chrysalis not born the way she was? I think Chrysalis should be another
themed alicorn.
It would mostly depend on how old Thorax is. Chrysalis was grooming them as soldiers as soon as they were in nymph stage. So effective were her attack plans, both of her defeats required a deus ex machina by the heroes.
She had been good at keeping the changelings as an exclusive military force and, as Thorax has shown, the hive has… little knowledge of anything outside of it. They picked parts of other cultures and such to slap together that they enjoy, but doesn’t have “old ways” to fall back on outside of chrysalis’ dominion.
While it is indeed very possible for Chrysalis to be that old, that statement alone is not proof enough. It could very well just mean that previous leaders did the same thing Chrysalis did and she merely learned from them how to do it.
Thorax said it was a “nursery hive”. Considering how Changelings go through three primary stages (grub, black, rainbow stag), each stage probably has a preferred environment to live in/that is best for it.
IE: Much like how in a hospital, we have the wing for birthing and newborns. I could see Chryslis wanting to amass power and building her army by stealing an entire clutch of numerous eggs from one such area and raising them to be her soldiers, keeping them in the dark about their true growth and keeping them starving so that they would steal love with no questions asked to ease the pain.
Now, we’ve seen that the more love a changeling amasses, the more they change; Thorax’s wings changed from his time in the crystal empire. It’s implied that Chrysalis has been around for a couple hundred years (Thorax says that the renegade changelings said “this is the way we’ve been doing it for centuries”), however, a changeling “feeding” results in the changelings absorbing the love given to them, and then they would return to Chrysalis, who’d drain that love from them to feed herself pretty much exclusively.
She’s larger, more elaborate, has something of a mane, and has well defined eyes.
Perhaps she knows that if she were to “ascend”, the more love you have before you do that generates a stronger form (Thorax was fueled by the crystal empire+flurry heart, Pharynx was fueled by the love of his brother and the love of the reformed hive, the other changelings just used the love they had stolen), and is planning to ascend into some… eldritch queen monstrosity…
From whom?
I still think Chrysalis stole these eggs.
It’s also possible though that only Chrysalis gave love, not the other changelings. Remember, he said he started to starve AFTER he left
Well according to Thorax (and even Chrysalis) GIVING love is something that… just doesn’t happen. It has to be “taken”. The concept of it being given freely is alien to them, even Thorax, much less generating it themselves, though it’s quite possible they simply can and have forgotten how, being selfish and being “hateful” to prevent others from getting a “free meal” off of them until it became second nature.
Even if she is really their mother, she is definitely not maternal.