Do we need the separate “confederate flag” and “rebel flag” tags? Aren’t they the same thing?

I find it interesting that people’s passion about something is often inversely proportional to their knowledge of the subject, as is the case with the sudden moral outrage over this old piece of cloth in seemingly entirety of the US.

Well, “interesting” isn’t quite the right word… “Disheartening” and “Unsurprising”, perhaps…

The same way people manage to form violent opinions over the latest publicized shooting or presidential candidate or scientific issue or some other media fluff despite only having learned about them a day earlier.

@Tidal Charm
The Confederate Navy Jack (commonly referred to as just the Confederate flag) is a symbol of slavery, of a nation that built itself on the very ideals of white superiority and black inferiority. It is a racist symbol no matter what people think or try to defend or try to justify. Thus, celebrating it celebrates racism.

Incidentally, not that it’s really that relevant, but both sides of my family fought for the Confederacy. I myself was born in Georgia. And I hate the Confederate flag for what it symbolizes.

 

 

@Background Pony #F6EF

@Tidal Charm
The Confederate Navy Jack (commonly referred to as just the Confederate flag) is a symbol of slavery, of a nation that built itself on the very ideals of white superiority and black inferiority. It is a racist symbol no matter what people think or try to defend or try to justify. Thus, celebrating it celebrates racism.

Incidentally, not that it’s really that relevant, but both sides of my family fought for the Confederacy. I myself was born in Georgia. And I hate the Confederate flag for what it symbolizes.

You’re indoctrinated if you think the rebel flag has anything to do with slavery. It was designed for the Army of Northern Virginia because the Confederacy’s flag looked too similar to the union flag on the battlefield, it flew over no slave ships and few plantations.

Later on, the flag definitely got usurped by some pretty notorious groups (although, so did the union flag, most racists hide their intentions behind a guise of patriotism, and that can’t be blamed on a piece of cloth).

@O’Shaunal
Except for it wasn’t their property. Ultimately it belongs to the US. … No state can legally leave the Union.

… they tried several methods and legislation to ease tension between sides. So no, the south would have not gone peacefully.

It was not rebellion by this point; it was doing what was within their right to do with their own property.

Were the early states under contract to be in perpetual union?

Even if you disagree with me, is the solution to secession to go and burn down the cities of the defectors?

If the Union wants to keep its members, maybe they should—i dunno—maintain a quality, mutually beneficial relationship with them?

@O’Shaunal

And the Union also had the right to assert its authority. not acting would pave the way for other states starting to think they could secede with no consequences too in the future.