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Hmm? What? Did you say something, or is this just more of your pointless self centered drivel?
it certainly beats incomprehensible walls of texts, at least that’s for certain.
but, despite the photoshop image of the Titanic sinking, it is actually true. Is anything of value really lost?
I can explain what this statement means to me right now, if you have the patience to listen to it.
Basically, No, it’s just lost in our minds, where as in reality, there’s all these posts that still exist here for example.
and before anyone starts going into an onslaught of words about “Freedom of Speech”, ask yourselves this, what exactly is this about? Tumblr.. did you ever at any point Really have that much faith in this site, or did you at some point forget this is pretty much the alternative format of Youtube’s policies?
What else remains other than that, John Joseco’s decision? he has every bit of right to close down his own blog for whatever reason and if he chose not to fight for it, you have to accept that and respect his decision, for his freedom of choice and more over that, his own sanity. You should think about the amount of crap he has had to deal with as well and not focus it against the people who put him through it (which is essentially what every misandrist out there does for the rape victims they are supposedly protecting and / or in defence of), but to concede in supporting, as well as respecting him as a person and his decision.
regarding assholes, I could do that, but right now I’d rather be calm instead. There’s enough anger in this thread to spare and I don’t think it needs me to do more damage than people are already doing to it.
It’s nice when assholes are concise.
tragic, but you need to relax too. Acting this childish doesn’t help either, being collected does and adding something constructive and beneficial to others does wonders.
take an example from this guy: @Background Pony #DA78
No incessant whining, no complaining, just simple and straight to the point. I even got a laugh out of it.
Not just recreate, but reimagine to any even greater level.
Out of spite, if nothing else.
So, who’s next? Who are the self appointed guardians of tumblr sharpening their knives for next? I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m getting an uncomfortable itch between my shoulder blades right now. It’s as if “someone” is sizing up my back for a freshly sharpened knife.
Think of this everyone who agrees with what has happened to Molestia. If everyone who spoke in her defense is silenced as she was who will speak up in your defense when the censors come for you?
Yeah, going to their level sounds really productive.
We should start a movement called, Down With Being Offended. Or Down With Social Justice.
I’m so sick of SJWs ruining everything, while everyone just sits idly by. They are just a vocal minority, they should be ignored or at best, laughed at. No one should ever let them have their way.
according to her own email to hasbro she was trying to get to FOE as well. seeing as it is still up, this just further indicates that she had nothing to do with it.
id say that you are insane.
what about the big shiny rock? and the quartet that plyed till the end, those were some classy dudes man…
“If the Molestia supporters had reached across the aisle, how would it have ended?”
By drawing back a bloody stump.
Goes to show if you don’t stop a runaway truck, it’ll probably start running over some people you don’t want it to. If for no other reason, that’s why people should have been fighting back against DWM; where will it end?
Except some of my friends are on their next hitlist. It is “us and them”, because my friends and I are very distinctly “us”, and people attacking us are very clearly making themselves “them”.
I’m not attacking anybody. I never attacked anybody in this entire shitshow, but that didn’t stop them from coming to attack us. I can’t step away from “this”, because they’re bringing it to me.
But hey, I’m honestly glad you don’t have to deal with that yourself. Enjoy your drama filters, and have fun with season 4.
I could point you to several people I know on Skype, but frankly I’m trying not to think about those people.
“They wouldn’t listen” is not an excuse for not trying.
If the Molestia supporters had reached across the aisle, how would it have ended? I don’t know. I can’t predict the future, I’m not going to try to predict alternate futures. I will speculate that in the worst-case scenario, we’d be right here where we are now, but more people would be saying that you were right. Best-case, the DWM movement would have lost some air. Either way would have been at least a slight improvement.
This isn’t proving me wrong. And frankly, it’s not healthy for you. You need to stop painting the world in black and white, us and them, friends and enemies, and calm way down. You’re not fighting anyone at the moment. Without Molestia, DWM is no longer a thing. It’s time to take a break.
Me, I’m going to go back to the nice snuggly blanket of those new filters I added a few minutes ago and never think of this conversation or any of the people it was about again. It’s up to you, you know, to decide whether to make this better or worse. If you choose to make it worse… well, I’ll spare some empathy for you. Not enough to join you, but enough to stay out of your way.
Except nobody ever said “I am offended by rape”. They started with “TAKE YOUR COMIC DOWN AND SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP”, and it got progressively worse from there. There was never any room for a discussion, because they only offered condescending lectures.
Nobody on our side says “you have no right to be offended.” Please, show me a single person who says that.
How would this have ended, in your ideal world? Because regardless of what we’re willing to discuss, there are certain end states that are off the table. One of those is giving offended people the ability to kick artists off the internet.
Wait, sorry, I was too gentle just now.
If someone says, “I am offended by rape,” and you say, “You have no right to be offended,” YOU are the bad person in that scenario.
You could have ended this all a lot better, or at least been fully justified in what you’re saying now, if you’d said to someone, “I disagree with you, but let’s discuss it.”
What I want you to do now is stop proving me right.
What was I supposed to learn, and what do you want me to do now, then?
Not stand up for my friends?
Then you’ve learned nothing. I’m sorry.
>Listen to this while looking at image
No. Because now they’re going to go after someone else, and it will be our job to defend that person from this nonsense. And we’ll do that because the next time it might be one of us in their sights.
I don’t care if they can make an argument that certain speech causes some kind of “abstract harm”. I don’t care if they don’t like my culture. We do not tolerate the methods they use to silence artists they disapprove of, regardless of how noble they think their cause is.