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I was stating during the attack, not after. Nor was I implying his death wasn’t tragic.
A Union soldier died to a misfire during its surrender. No doubt his parents were proud.
Well no one died during the attack on Fort Sumter. {Only a confederate horse.}
Conquering? You tried to break away, and attacking Fort Sumter was an act of war.
So losing a tiny island off the coast of Charleston is a valid excuse for conquering an entire country? Sure.
You heard it here folks, Fort Sumter shot first.
You sound like one of those people who would claim that a rape victim would not have been raped if she didn’t “dress like a slut”.
The question of whether or not a rape victim “dressed like a slut” or if by doing so has provoked the attack does not take away from the fact that the rapist has committed a horrific act.
Likewise, you could rant and hiss all you want about Southern society being built on slavery, but that does not change the fact that the North has committed an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign entity.
It would’ve gone away bloodlessly, if the planters didn’t start a Goddamn war to create their own country where slavery was enshrined as the foundation of their government.
The Southern plantation system was already in decline at this point. The wealthy planters that dominated Southern politics simply wanted to latch onto their traditional sources of income as long as they could.
As the Ottoman Empire and Brazil have shown, an independent Confederacy would have had to abolish slavery eventually. Instead, the United States comes down in history as the only major nation to abolish slavery through bloodshed.
@ClownDicks
“The Confederate states seceded because they were paranoid Lincoln was gonna ban slavery. Read their articles of secession some time.”
You obviously didn’t read the comment. It explicitly acknowledges that slavery was a driving factor behind Southern secession, but not Northern retaliation.
The Confederate states seceded because they were paranoid Lincoln was gonna ban slavery. Read their articles of secession some time.
Meanwhile, the Union “retaliated” because the Confederacy attacked Fort Sumter.
Of course this whole drama could have been averted if the south simply decided to suck it up and begin the process of converting to more industrial means as opposed to sticking to the plantation system. The same process which was being carried out by the slave-holding Union states, or was already late enough in that process that they weren’t nearly as mad.
Northern industrialists were in favor of passing protective tariffs to compete against cheaper and better-quality European imports. Southerners, however, relied upon trade with British manufacturers and were resentful towards the Northern robber barons’ stranglehold over national politics.
South Carolina first tried to secede after the Tariff of Abominations was passed in 1828. The secession crisis was the focal point of Andrew Jackson’s Nullification Crisis.
The 1861 secession attempt was mainly in response to Morrill Tariff that the newly elected Republicans were about to enact. Of course, slavery was one of the reasons why the South seceded, but not why the North retaliated. The chief reasons for “preserving the Union” was to protect the source of raw produce for Northern industry and to not appear weak and divided on the global stage.
How was the South being “economically oppressed”?
By refusing to invest in machines and being on the loosing end of politics in general?
I guess someone in the south didn’t Game of Thrones hard enough to tip the proportion of slave states to non-slave states nearly hard enough.
In the end, it’s a by gone chapter and every time I look at a Civil War argument I can’t help but feel either side is oversimplifying the issue by latching onto a broad set of terms that correspond to personal ideology than anything.
By doing… what?
Same as any other empire - they wanted to oppress southerners.
What were the yankees being imperialists over?
You mean like this flag?
Hey now, it stands for much more than that! It also stands for treason, for example.
I think people offended by it, are being a bit to politically-correct.
Also, I find it funny when people try to make all southern Americans out to be like “hicks & rednecks,” while forgetting there’s just as many rednecks, and hicks up in northern states. I’ve even seen lower-class British & Australian folk who could fit the “hick” stereotype to.
A lot of things actually, but can we just be good natured and live and let live.