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Maybe Cosmos was just taunting her enemies in hoping that they wouldn’t try it.
More than complaining about the existence of anti-magic stuff, it’s more about how everbody casually have an anti-magic artifact that can null a friggin reality warper user meanwhile the fucking civilization that can control sun and moon don’t have that and neither with other species because it’s so regular the invasions from other species to don’t think to create efective anti-magic artifacts to stop anyone else.
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Oh yeah, why did anti-magic stuff exist in a world full of magic?
oh god, so many anti magic stuff, i can’t blame why the writers forgot Sombra’s anti-magic stuff, it’s just ridiculous everbody have anti-magic artifacts that don’t affect the villain’s magic, making rules of magic strange because the writers don’t care about how is different the type of magic despite it’s just a different color instead of giving interesting differences, limits and even philosophies from every type of magic.
Basically Discord has Kryptonite.
“Those wouldn’t have worked, either”? Every anti-magic source used on Discord (even a standard-issue collar, as seen here) has been successful, so it seems that anti-magic in general is a problem for him. Not to mention that those crystals were able to grow around the Tree despite its anti-Everfree field (which overpowered his Plunderseeds for centuries; they couldn’t grow, until it ran out), so we’ve seen them nullify magic stronger than his (and in both cases, the Elements were removed; so there were no mitigating circumstances).
So the villains have to play with different cards and think outside the box. Or simply have more presence of chaos magic (and being more about skills instead of power levels) as an antagonist that fits perfectly as an opponent of the elements of harmony.
Kind of a problem if dark magic can’t hurt him since serious villains are most likely going to use some kind of magic like that and not something like goo.
Well, the writers forgot the sickness detail, somehthing that would be interesting about knowing why that creature makes sick Discord, maybe he can be hurted by things he don’t know its structure, explaining why he didn’t get hurt by black magic of Sombra but he got hurted with the creature’s goo.
And yet Sombra’s attacks were shown to never harm Discord AT ALL. Sure confuses things even more.
It’s not like if Three’s crown, Discordant Harmony and Issue 57 don’t show some limitations that don’t evolves magic drain like don’t having ideas, being killed if he tries to be normal and can be sick. And special emphasis in being sick because that means he isn’t invincible in a phisical form and can be hurted in different ways.
The problem still remains due to the possibility.
Like if a threat takes down Discord, its only due to they got lucky he didn’t use the “instant win” bit and not actually beating his powers legit.
It messes up the threat of the villain in question due to the fact if Discord intervenes, they are done for.
The problem is they didn’t explain the limits of his magic. If they properly established the drawbacks(instead of leaving it so vague), the problem wouldn’t be therre.
As in a snap of fingers, suddenly no powers for the opponent or your army is suddenly cheese now. No beam, just a snap of fingers and you instantly lose.
And its implied they can’t copy the magical abilities of who they are impersonating. Only physical abilities like strength or mobility in water for example.
So they got some establishment on whats balancing their power out, Discord’s chaos magic got none.
Why it’s hard to understand Discord or any other reality warper actually can never win instantly? It’s like using cheat codes in a video game, it’s great to use some and effective in others, but no one is going to use all the codes to play, since it takes away the fun itself.
Also, if Discord helped in every instance, it would cause more problems around the world, Accord can answers that.
It can be a problem if it ruins the villain’s threats.
Sombra’s threat got ruined completely in season 9, even before it turns out Discord was Grogar.
I think its interesting having a all power force on the heroes side, although he has been shown able to be helpful without powers so I wouldn’t have mind him losing them not on some spiteful punishment thing like yall be on but some new enemy takes them and there is a arc where he’s finding himself without them and fluttershy helps him through it.
The problem still remains that Discod can literally instantly win anyway.
The fact he chooses not too doesn’t solve the problem, it still ruins the threats of other villains due to the possibility of instant loss.
Hell, the recent comic on how Discord instantly took out those cats(and the fact they only stopped him from doing that in the first place due to forced writing) shows more of how Discord ruins the threats of other villains.
Yur right completely
Philosophically, any entity that can alter reality can never win instantly, especially tricksters like Discord since they want to feel any emotion in their existence that is empty because they already have everything in the universe, it is like playing a video game with all the activated codes, it’s just boring.
So beings like Discord take paths that are pragmatically less useful but that can provide fun. Since if it were so, Discord would have already defeated everyone without giving any opportunity but he did not do it more because he knows that conflict is what gives meaning to life itself.
And other limitations of Discord is his own morals and personality. That could be exemplified by the fact that Discord could easily have defeated Chrisalis outside of the Throne field, but the methods he could have used could have been unethical like a meteor shower or leaving an army of tough, wild animals falling from the sky, which is something that Fluttershy wouldn’t like it.
And talking about magic, i think I think the biggest problem is that the world of MLP is more designed for slice of life than for epic stories, since in itself, not only Discord breaks the inversion of epic stories, but also in theory Celestia and Luna would do it for being beings that they can control stars such as the sun and the moon, which has serious consequences if one analyzes it well, taking away too much prominence from the mane 6 to have to give them to Discord, Luna and Celestia.
And for that same world design, no type of magic is well explained, there is alicorn magic, chaos magic, umbrum magic, changeling magic, but how exactly do they work and how do they differ? It is something that no one bother to ask because it’s a slice of life where things are not taken so seriously since the interactions matter more than the lore itself.
Difference between Batman’s and Discord’s is Batman can’t warp reality and auto-win against anyone with a snap of his fingers due to said reality-bending.
Nothing is stopping Discord from auto-winning, Hell we see that happened in this comic where he instantly wins against the cats by turning them into harmless kittens. Like all Discord had to do is a simple thought and snap his fingers and that’s it, the villain instantly loses. Either turned into something like a piece of candy or instantly lose their weapon or ability to do something.
The only way to balance out this crap so he won’t ruin the threats of other villains is say he can’t directly affect beings strong enough to resist his magic. Like he’s a glass cannon where he can be devastating and instantly-win but running into a strong villain(such as Nightmare Moon or Daybreaker for example), he’s going to have a hard time.
@CORDZ2000
Doesn’t really fix the issue of the problems Discord’s reality-warping affects the story and the threats of the other villains.
Having to rely on outright magic-nullfying doesn’t seem like the way. Only way to fix this is to balance out his magic, as in actually explore what he CAN’T do instead of relying on him getting fully negated by a plot device that a villain just happens to have to keep him from instantly solving the threat(such as Chrysalis’s anti-magic throne that the buggos apparently had this whole time) or him purposely not helping because “trickster mentor”.
Look at what he did to Sombra in season 9, even before the reveal he was impersonating Grogar, Discord completely ruined Sombra’s threat. Which is really not good.
Wow jacalope this was a incredibly brilliant comment I agree.
@nightshroud96
Discord losing his magic this time was also used as a characterization plot point as this series is about establishing bonds of friends overall than fandom lore, it was used for Discord to point out his past mistakes while noting this time he lose his magic while doing a good thing doing what someone close to him wanted. To put in perspective once again discord has a good heart but hes just a work in progress.
Actually don’t need to making limits in Discord’s magic to know how to defeat any draconequus, Because in itself, if one analyzes it well and out of the box, there are ways to defeat it from the philosophies that regardless of whether Discord is arrogant or not, it will never take the easy path to be able to create something in its existential emptiness. He is an entity that needs conflict for his existence to make sense.
In addition, if Discord can get sick and run out of ideas, that means he can also be exhausted from doing so many tricks that he can be left at the mercy of the attacker, just like in Batman’s Knightfall where Bane applied the same strategy to tire Batman and break him. the back.
And that I do not get involved with thinking in a metatextual way where controlling reality can have its limits as no reality warper can think too fast in fiction and that there can be an “escape from reality” such as Gwenpool and Unbeatable.
In short, reality control has its own limits in concept but nobody wants to think about it.
Here’s the thing, the comic issue relied on anti-magic collars to prevent him from easily fixing the plot(along with Fluttershy stupidly making him not use magic which led him to get collared).
And how he easily took out the cats and the king like that the moment his anti-magic plot device was gone and choose to step in, it showed how the villain’s threat is just artificial/pathetic due to they would be screwed hard if Discord steps in and auto-wins via his reality-warping crap.
They need to explore weaknesses on Discord’s magic to balance him out instead of relying on stuff that outright shuts down magic or Discord being too arrogant. Because reality-warpers like him are OP and not in a good way.
Discord did step in