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@aaron242  
Yeah, that’s more or less the impression I got.
 
He could’ve put it more diplomatically, but his point seemed to boil down to “you’re good dealing with one sort of crisis, we’re good at dealing with another sort of crisis, and we’re probably best off dealing with the sort of things we’re respectively good at dealing with”.
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I get the feeling he’s saying “ let us guards do the fighting and the dying down in the mud, you need to concentrate on the threats that we cannot deal with.” and probably a whole heap of “not everything ends in sunshine and rainbows, time for a reality check.”
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@Fwelin  
This.
 
In fact, his argument is all over the place. He says they’re better off staying out of combat and in their school tucked away safely, except for when the world is about to end, because what? Those situations aren’t dangerous? There’s no risk of getting killed then?
 
I think he’s trying to make a logical argument, but the way he’s phrasing it is, at best, really really flawed.
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@4xblack  
He’s talking about ACTUAL battle, not befriending. I didn’t see any befriending going on when the mane six defeated a horde of changelings (outperforming the Royal Guard members we saw, who were being defeated by much smaller numbers), or the Bugbear, which was such a big threat that Equestria’s special forces monster unit closed down out of fear of it.
 
The mane six are experienced fighters, not mere civilians that have never been in serious battles.
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“Now that you know”?
 
Uh, dude? They’ve been in battles before. I’ll just say, you are quite the ignorant fellow.
 
Seriously, there’s something wrong about telling Princess Twilight she should stick to running her school because she doesn’t know what a battle is while also saying she and her friends are the defence against world-ending threats. Somwewhere along the line, he got lost in his military pridefulness.
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That's him, officer
Colonel Ironheart telling it like it is.
 
This doubles as a kind version of a Reason You Suck Speech for me.
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@Blissey1  
Her natural curiosity is actually why i had issue with the way the comic works in the first place, not seeking out Vulpa or getting all the info she can from the start from the colonel when she ran into him. instead of just being satisfied with basically jumping in with only a “its already over”.
 
I guess you could argue that she was driven by urgency, but that went out the window when the colonel told her its already over.
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@Vaidelot  
@Spiritus Arcane  
You two seem to be conflating canon “military” (lol) capabilities with fanon military capabilities. Which are two wholesale different things because one is a story component in the lightest sense and the other is drama drama galore.
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@Spiritus Arcane  
If they’re part of a military (and, as I demonstrated, there is more than enough evidence to support this)- then yes, they’re a soldiers. How good of a soldiers they are - is another matter entirely. Canonically they’re no more of a failure than any other branch of Equestrian military we’ve seen so far.
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  1. And failed miserably.  
  2. Yeah, and so did every other civilian pegasus.  
  3. Yes, they started as a military branch, and yes they may still technically be one on paper…but does that make them actual soldiers?  
  4. Alternate timeline, doesn’t count.
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@Spiritus Arcane  
Umm, what?  
  1. They’ve fought Spikezilla during the “Secret of my Excess”.  
  2. They’ve lead the Pegasi charge on Tirec during S4 finale.  
  3. According to “Testing, Testing, 123” their founders had military ranks and wore distinctively military uniform.  
  4. In the Sombra War bad future (S5 finale) they’ve actually shown to be a fighting force.  
    There’s enough evidence to me to consider them a part of Equestrian military. And, while they indeed had their share of failures, its not like the Royal Guards in the show fared any better…
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@Vaidelot  
The one time we’ve actually seen the Wonderbolts in what could be considered a combat situation, they failed miserably. Also there’s no sign of combat training in any of the training done at their academy. So it’s debatable if the Wonderbolts are a true part of the EUP anymore or just stunt fliers.
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Well, yes. As it stands here we have a clueless Twilight getting what amounts to a lecture from Captain Encyclopedia. Ponder Twilight Sparkle’s character for a second; what is the more likely place for Twilight to seek out such knowledge?
Having a text dump via Twilight studying a book, then going to this stallion and asking for clarifications would be much less “telling,” since it shows Twilight actually researching and doing her thing rather than just being told the facts.
 
uh, no, not really. its much more likely for her to want to find out what happened to vulpa directly from someone who was there to see it at the time, not wait a week for the official report to be written up and then go get more details. and then the next part she didn’t really seek out at all, he jsut gave to her.
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@Frustration in Excelsis  
Well, yes. As it stands here we have a clueless Twilight getting what amounts to a lecture from Captain Encyclopedia. Ponder Twilight Sparkle’s character for a second; what is the more likely place for Twilight to seek out such knowledge?
 
Having a text dump via Twilight studying a book, then going to this stallion and asking for clarifications would be much less “telling,” since it shows Twilight actually researching and doing her thing rather than just being told the facts.