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Background Pony #BA2B
@Background Pony Number 17
Not surprising when you consider Dragons have had an anti pony stance for a while (even being open to the idea of invading the pony regions of Equestria), Griffons of mythology ate horses, The Changlings’ reformation is a recent event following two almost successful invasion attempts, And Yaks are not the best house guests even threatening war if you upset them. Can you really blame a pony for being so distrustful?
 
 
Not entirely and since the ponies apparently didnt Always had a good history with the nonponies then it should partially make sense
Background Pony #BA2B
@Background Pony #6D48
Sure. His character is being handled pretty poorly though - they could’ve listed some reasons for his racist rant at least, rather than just dropping it as a straw man. They could have easily said that he feared another Changeling invasion, or just didn’t like the chaos that Yaks bring. Those are problems that can be solved through conversations, understanding, and friendship.
Everyone wants to throw this guy under the bus as a racist for being ethnocentric, but nobody calls out the Yaks for thinking that their culture is better than anyone else’s. I don’t see the Yaks reaching out to Griffons or Hippogriffs, either.
Heck, if Twilight Sparkle had just started the school for ponies first, then the whole ‘we almost started a war’ plot could have been completely avoided, and the curriculum issues could have been solved before the lives of everyone in Equestria was put in the balance.
Chancellor Neighsay does have a couple good arguments he could use in his back pocket. However, no one wants to even consider hearing out a ‘racist,’ so those points are moot. It’s…just such a ham-fisted waste of a character.
 
Fact is you aren’t wrong about him Actually making better and Somewhat Not 100 % totally wrong arguments there
 
So you aren’t entirely wrong about him making the better arguments there
Background Pony #BA2B
@Background Pony #B214
Usually when people assume positions of power to spread hatred and xenophobia, they don’t join committees. Just look at Pol Pot.
Committees are passive agressive, perform no direct action on their opponents, and at the end of the day, they aren’t effective if your objective is to spread hate. Rather, when you are on a committee, it is a prestigious position, and your main goal is to maintain that prestige (so you feel good about yourself, and so that whatever ‘institution’ you serve continues to exist). This is why college professors never preach against themselves, offering free accredited classes to random people - no matter how much they want to appear ‘woke,’ they are unwilling to ‘woke’ themselves out of a job. Even if you could propose the argument that Universities are white, colonizing institutions entirely focused on making more white-minded people (like the professors), they would probably nod, agree with you, and then ignore that actions should follow if your argument is true.
Neighsay is a guy in a prestigious committee tasked with furthering the education of ponies. If any other culture offered superior schooling to the existing pony structures, then there would have been foreign exchange students of the pony variety that would have attended foreign schools. Since that had not occurred, for whatever reason (perhaps the Griffons were xenophobic, too?), Neighsay is perfectly, logically, rationally reaching a conclusion.
Or he would have, if the writers didn’t just want a strawman to label and attack…..
World building is hard. Giving legitimate reasons for peoples’ positions is challenging. Attacking root causes takes time and effort. Nobody wants to do that - they just want their 5 minutes of hate.
You are no different.
 
 
You are Are actually making a logical point there
Ravemastaj

@Background Pony #B214  
Usually when people assume positions of power to spread hatred and xenophobia, they don’t join committees. Just look at Pol Pot.
 
Committees are passive agressive, perform no direct action on their opponents, and at the end of the day, they aren’t effective if your objective is to spread hate. Rather, when you are on a committee, it is a prestigious position, and your main goal is to maintain that prestige (so you feel good about yourself, and so that whatever ‘institution’ you serve continues to exist). This is why college professors never preach against themselves, offering free accredited classes to random people - no matter how much they want to appear ‘woke,’ they are unwilling to ‘woke’ themselves out of a job. Even if you could propose the argument that Universities are white, colonizing institutions entirely focused on making more white-minded people (like the professors), they would probably nod, agree with you, and then ignore that actions should follow if your argument is true.
 
Neighsay is a guy in a prestigious committee tasked with furthering the education of ponies. If any other culture offered superior schooling to the existing pony structures, then there would have been foreign exchange students of the pony variety that would have attended foreign schools. Since that had not occurred, for whatever reason (perhaps the Griffons were xenophobic, too?), Neighsay is perfectly, logically, rationally reaching a conclusion.
 
Or he would have, if the writers didn’t just want a strawman to label and attack. World building is hard. Giving legitimate reasons for peoples’ positions is challenging. Attacking root causes takes time and effort. Nobody wants to do that - they just want their 5 minutes of hate.
 
You are no different.
Background Pony #33D7
The idea is to teach them that hate and/or racism is wrong.
Even then, Twilight doesn’t express hatred toward Neighsay. She expresses disgust at his ideals. And I think that’s an important difference.
You can hate racism while still pitying the racist, and hoping they see the light and abandon their prejudices. Maybe Neighsay will eventually.
 
Spoiler alert on that last one he ALREADY DID
Background Pony #B214
@Ravemastaj
 
Yes, it isn’t as though real-life world leaders in recent history haven’t assumed positions of power on a platform of hatred and xenophobia or anything. Clearly Neighsay is unrealistic and there are no real-world analogues he can be easily compared to.
Zendigo

Social Justice Pacifist
@Ravemastaj
 
The idea is to teach them that hate and/or racism is wrong.
 
Even then, Twilight doesn’t express hatred toward Neighsay. She expresses disgust at his ideals. And I think that’s an important difference.
 
You can hate racism while still pitying the racist, and hoping they see the light and abandon their prejudices. Maybe Neighsay will eventually.
Background Pony #BB84
@Zendigo
Yeah. That’s just part of my point - he’s designed as a character you are supposed to hate, and that’s just…poor writing. If you are supposed to hate a character, then it should be after a revelation, and after reformation is refused. Just making the guy outspoken and oblivious to what he’s saying is just…a waste. He’s part of the Equestrian Education Authority, he should know the history of the EUP Alliance, and he should be able to talk to Twilight Sparkle in a civilized and nuanced manner, with an understanding of what she is trying to accomplish - even if he has reservations against it. Instead, they made him into an old racist that doesn’t have any real/valid opinions or fears.
 
Because People like him does not exist in real life….Oh wait, they do.
Ravemastaj

@Zendigo  
Yeah. That’s just part of my point - he’s designed as a character you are supposed to hate, and that’s just…poor writing. If you are supposed to hate a character, then it should be after a revelation, and after reformation is refused. Just making the guy outspoken and oblivious to what he’s saying is just…a waste. He’s part of the Equestrian Education Authority, he should know the history of the EUP Alliance, and he should be able to talk to Twilight Sparkle in a civilized and nuanced manner, with an understanding of what she is trying to accomplish - even if he has reservations against it. Instead, they made him into an old racist that doesn’t have any real/valid opinions or fears.
 
Oh well, the show is targeted to children. I guess you have to teach them to hate somehow
DarkObsidian
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I’m not very suprised, that there is (or seems to be) this kind of specism among ponies. Why?
 
As far as we know, Equestria seems to be one of the very few nations/countries in the FiM world that actually flourish and prosper. It has rich soil, weather control, magic, economy, technolgy, scholarship, libraries, and so on. Comparing with the other cultured species in the show (Yaks, Dragons, Griffons, Hippogriffons, Changelings), the united three tribes of the ponies could be quite the dominating power in the FiM world. Actually it’s only because of the kindhearted nature of Celestia Equestria doesn’t grow into a global superpower.
 
Why is Celestia the balance in this? As far as we know the three tribes all alone for themself were quite much the same as the other species. Uncooperative, abusive, aggressive. Without Star Swirl the Bearded, Smart Cookie, Private Pansy and Clover the Clever who decided they need a common bond (the Alicorn princesses) after the incident with the windigos, all pony folk most likely has extinguished. After the defeat of Tirek and Discord Luna turns into Nightmare Moon. Celestia becomes some kind of passive and lost her connection to the Elements of Harmony.
 
Okay, that’s what we know so far from the past. Now let’s check the present.
 
After all most of the Canterlot Ponies are portrayed as highly snobbish and full of themself. Ponies like Diamond Tiaras mother Spoiled Rich seems to be the local or countryside version of this behavoir. Earth ponies are dedicated to their work and Pegasi are the weather control system and some type of para-milita. I’m sorry, I still don’t know if the Wonderbolts are really a kind of military unit or not. Just like the Royal Guards both divisions lacks size and abilities to do more than personal protection for the princesses. But I recognize that they could be more if ponies really go to war (Crystal war timeline). - please don’t mention the slap fights in close combat -
 
My point is this: Is Chancellor Neighsay wrong about what he says? No. He’s not. As far as we know, the FiM world has quite dangerous places (Everfree Forest) and aggressive creatures (like the Hydra or the Cockatrice) in it. The other countries doesn’t seems to make the same or any kind of progress like Equestria. Griffonstone stagnates. The Changeling Empire is relative new and Seaquestria isolated itself till the arrival of the Mane 6. So thinking about it, Neighsays specism makes some kind of sense to me.
 
Canterlot was canon invaded at least two times. Not only the changelings, the Storm King not too long ago. Indeed the whole city was ENSLAVED! Considering this, I can understand why chancellor Neighsay wants to protect ponies and defend their way of life, and their mean of defense (Friendship). Isn’t that because Twilight traveled to the huMan world to get her crown back? Because without the crown the other Elements have no power. Without Friendship the pony folk will suffer.
 
Is Neighsay right? No! Definitely not! Equestria prospered from the unity of the three tribes. To grow even further it needs friendship to make ties to the other species. Even if they’re some kind of dangerous or not thrustworthy. But like other species there will be some ponies who won’t agree with that. They rather accept and keep their comfortable status quo. Ignoring the fact that there would be even greater harm if the other species would be left out of the progress. Maybe even war?
 
I don’t know but I love the show just for the reason that it gives me something to think about it.
Zendigo

Social Justice Pacifist
but nobody calls out the Yaks for thinking that their culture is better than anyone else’s.
 
Guess it’s a matter of framing.
 
Yaks: “We’re the best!”  
Neighsay: “Everyone else is the worst.
 
Both outlooks are arrogant and, yes, have an air of self-superiority about them. But Neighsay’s just comes across as more obnoxious and unlikable, since it focuses not on how good ponies are, but how supposedly bad all the other races are.
Ravemastaj

@Background Pony #6D48  
Sure. His character is being handled pretty poorly though - they could’ve listed some reasons for his racist rant at least, rather than just dropping it as a straw man. They could have easily said that he feared another Changeling invasion, or just didn’t like the chaos that Yaks bring. Those are problems that can be solved through conversations, understanding, and friendship.
 
Everyone wants to throw this guy under the bus as a racist for being ethnocentric, but nobody calls out the Yaks for thinking that their culture is better than anyone else’s. I don’t see the Yaks reaching out to Griffons or Hippogriffs, either.
 
Heck, if Twilight Sparkle had just started the school for ponies first, then the whole ‘we almost started a war’ plot could have been completely avoided, and the curriculum issues could have been solved before the lives of everyone in Equestria was put in the balance.
 
Chancellor Neighsay does have a couple good arguments he could use in his back pocket. However, no one wants to even consider hearing out a ‘racist,’ so those points are moot. It’s…just such a ham-fisted waste of a character.
Background Pony #C7EB
Can we all just agree that Neighsay is an a**hole and just leave it at that?
Background Pony #B214
@Eeveeinheat
 
In MLP, there aren’t significant differences between the species either. Not socially or psychologically anyway, even if there are some physical differences. Even if there are cultural differences in the different nations, we’ve seen firsthand that - say - a dragon raised in Equestria has a lot more in common with other Equestrians than with citizens of the Dragon Lands.
 
So I’d say it’s still a decent analogy. As the episode points out, even the fact that the three different types of ponies were able to come together and put aside their differences is a similar concept.