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Timber gets a buttload of screentime together with Twilight yet he never actually “connects” with anything going on with her. Instead of being of some use to help her sort out her problems, he’s just there to give Twilight a break from her moping. And since in the end it’s her friends who make her feel better and let go of her issues, Timber is pretty much the character equivalent of a safety blanket.
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Bull? But if I’m a cat.
Meow :)
Talking seriously, nobody is stopping you to give him a fanon personality to Flash, I have always been neutral to Flash so I can be impartial about your fanon, just don’t expect me to have unconditional love or hate for Flash or things like that, also I´m nothing more than an analytical person.
About Timber, just don´t expect the fandom hates him in the same way that Flash was hated in 2013, we’ve all matured, the EG movies have improved in one way or another, Flash Sentry has not been expelled from the continuity of EG and he had his chance to be more enjoyable in Legend of Everfree, the Flash-haters are funnier than before.
You need to overcome your frustration that is now obsolete.
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Edited it, but you get what I mean. At least characters like Blueblood, Spoiled Rich, and Svengallop did something to WARRANT the fandom’s hatred. Flash? He exists.
You see where I’m going with this.
>I’m trying to force everyone to like him
That’s not what I’m saying, I’m not trying to force everyone to like him, I’m just pointing out how hypocritical their reasons for hating him are.
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ok so we give him a personality are you going to force others it liking it before they watch the the movies?
And how does THAT stop us from just GIVING him a personality? We’ve given other BG/side/supporting characters their own character and personalities with even less than that, and yet somehow Flash is an impossible character to do the same for?
BULL.
A small characteristic could be pointed out over the course of each and every one of these movies with just a bit of looking, so the complaint that he’s “bland” is both irrelevant and hypocritical.
You want to use the argument that Timber did not talk about his problem with Gloriosa but nobody really wanted to talk about their problems with the rest (Gloriosa, Timber, Twilight, Humane 5) the only one who dared to talk about his personal problem to the first was curiously Flash.
Rainbow also was never specific about solving magical problems, Timber never knew the full context of what she said.
Timber has something on 1 movie that Flash never had in 3 movies, he was relatable with the public, he was charcter arc and depth, apart being Human Twilight love interest, Timber is always concerned about the welfare of his own sister even if he tried to work things out alone (like any other EG character) and really interacted with more people than just Twilight and Gloriosa directly or indirectly in foreground on differents topics (the problem with the original dock, the scary story of Gaea Everfree).
Flash never have that, any significant interaction in the movies was with or had to do with Twilight (princess Twilight or Human Twilight) and it was in a way that gets old very fast. The only significant exception was in the Friendship Games short where in general it was of a different theme and with different characters, everything else have been funny background events without much importance or part of a group reaction that does not guarantee its own identity, the only additional thing we really know about Flash Sentry is that he is a rocker.
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Everyone already is… now I don’t HATE Timber, I hate the fact that everyone is just overglorifying him while ignoring any faults HE may have and using him as an excuse to take potshots at Flash and treat him like the fandom’s cancer.
and you can’t do the same for timber?
While I agree that he was underused, that’s no reason to take potshots at him while defending another character that had just as little an impact.
Aside from being Twi’s love interest he didn’t bother bringing up the fact that his sister was using unstable magic even the girls established that they’ve delt with stuff like this before, and had no bearing on the Midnight Sparkle Arc.
And yer becuase he flirted with Twi more he’s somehow better than Flash? Consider the following:
FlashLight was basically bumping into each other and being awkwardly adorable.
TimberTwi was basically him saying something corny (usually with an air of smug) and then her giggling.
How is this better? Flash at least flirted gently with Twilight, Timber was giving her the “I want you” look the second he saw her. And even THEN Flash and Twi didn’t (almost) kiss until the second movie, with Timber they were ready to suck face right off the bat.
And finally, as Bronies we’ve given BG/Side?supporting characters their own personalities with barely any info on who they are, heck Flash has a few scenes and info that can be used to give him a personality:
http://aminoapps.com/page/equestria/4889596/rants-on-flash-hate
So the argument that Flash has no development or character is older than Granny Smith and deader that AJ’s parents (sorry if that feels a little too mean-spirited).
And unfortunately for Flash were the only things he did in those 2 movies even if he has basic personality.
He had no interaction with the other girls, he had no interest in continuing to help beat Sunset Shimmer for the Fall Formal Crown and did not have a character arc in the first movie. Basically only interacted with Twilight and not enough to consider it a real love interest.
To be a supporting character he was underused to the point of being a glorified background character and did not have much purpouse for the following 2 movies apart from being a joke character, even if it was better used in Rainbow Rocks.
And Flash helped clear Twi’s name and congratulated her when she won in the second movie.
Timber’s not “better” than Flash since his role didn’t have much on a impact plot-wise and people need to stop acting like Flash is somehow the fandom’s cancer.
Technically Timber did not help Human Twilight with the issue, but it was close to knowing by the increasingly notorious stress of Twilight by the insistent silence on the subject, Sunset was the only one who had some idea at the time and that only because they shared the same place in the camp.
And that is on the side of interaction with Twilight.
@LightningBolt
I’m sorry about that, I’m still getting used to write in English
If anyone needs to “get over” it’s you. Tell me, did you actually read the description or did you just automatically look for an excuse to take potshots at Flash? Either way it’s pretty pathetic.
Timber did NOTHING to help with the Midnight Sparkle issue and had NO impact on the Gaia Everfree issue save for being a simple red herring for Sunset to follow.
As minuscule as it was, Flash at least did something that contributed to the plot.
[citation needed]Timber was more useful in the the plot of 1 movie than Flash in 3 movies
your current filter.I don’t know if I’d call him jerkish, but he comes off like….like he was written by someone who knows nothing about teenagers to be a “generically likeable quirky nice guy”?
He comes off like he’s just too damn smug about what a Nice GuyTM he is.
nah, I dont like his attitude of ¨Oh, Im so cool and handsome¨ and that is sad because in the teasers they show a really good chemistry but in the end the interactions between them were so painful…
and this is the question, what is better? a character with no personality? or a character with personality but no exactly a good one?
Nope, I don’t like him either. The only good quality in his entire character is he’s a good brother, besides that he’s a jerk. Team Flash for life.
So it’s just me getting that weird douchey vibe from this guy?
It kinda is considering that we’re a fandom that give unique personalities to BG/side-characters yet act like giving Flash one is somehow impossible, and then glorify and praise Timber despite him adding nothing aside from being Twi’s love interest and Sunset’s red herring.
How can we miss him if he won’t go away?
…what? He’s been in all the movies. You can’t miss someone if they’re not missing.
It’s not hypocrisy because there are several different factors between both moments.
You really oughta cool it on this pretty boy rivalry.
Yeah, and yet everyone lost their shit the moment Flash was seen in the trailer, yet Timber is suddenly praised for a few seconds of flirting.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
@Background Pony #53EC
And we’re not “grasping at straws to make him look bad”, we’re pointing out that Timber isn’t much better than Flash, if Flash-haters are gonna while about how useless a character he is and then glorify another who’s basically the same, then they have no right to be judgmental in the first place.
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