busty [character name] tags

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I’m not giving up just yet.
 
 
@LightningBolt  
Don’t group them, then.
 
Look, I understand the need for site functionality. But I draw the line at removing things unique to derpibooru.  
If you’re not going to take my input from this, at least take Mildgyth’s. A few of the things we’ve suggested are the same thing.
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I liked all the puns and interesting lolzy tags it were one of BEST features of community here, now we can play bet game what tag next will get down and how it will be another boring soon the same chan like any others. I bet that cute/adorable pun tag will get shot down next (because there is not much anymore)
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I liked all the puns and interesting lolzy tags it were one of BEST features of community here, now we can play bet game what tag next will get down and how it will be another boring soon the same chan like any others. I bet that cute/adorable pun tag will get shot down next (because there is not much anymore)
 
shhhh dont give em any ideas
Sakaki1999

I liked all the puns and interesting lolzy tags it were one of BEST features of community here, now we can play bet game what tag next will get down and how it will be another boring soon the same chan like any others. I bet that cute/adorable pun tag will get shot down next (because there is not much anymore)
 
Oh, I wouldn’t say that. There’s always been a good abundance of cute pictures here on Derpi, porny or SFW.
 
But like the previous user warned, don’t give them any further ideas. :P
Sakaki1999

It’s times like these that I think Melchett from Blackadder II was right.
 
“But private parts are we to the gods (or in this case, Mods); they play with us as sport.”
 
Everything else would’ve been fine, but when Hootershy died, I just about cried. But in retrospect, I think this is my punishment for trying to add/spam “teenage tits” to imply full-frontal toplessness/nudity among female Equestria Girls characters. I think LB knows what I’m talkin’ about. :P But you’re right; you can’t just create tags willy-nilly without permission, and now this almost complete sterilization of punny breast names is my punishment. I’d have gladly accepted a one…no, a TWO week ban for my mischievousness rather than seeing clever tags like “gilzongas”, “coco puffs” and “lightning bust” be destroyed.
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’they can’t hear us, and they never will.’ :(  
The mods have repeatedly indicated that they don’t have a strong consensus either way. And Midgyth (a mod) has constantly been defending these tags. So some of your side is getting through.
 
@Sakaki1999  
“gilzongas”, “coco puffs” and “lightning bust”  
Aaaaaaaaand now I remember why I disliked these tags.
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’they can’t hear us, and they never will.’ :(
The mods have repeatedly indicated that they don’t have a strong consensus either way. And Midgyth (a mod) has constantly been defending these tags. So some of your side is getting through.
“gilzongas”, “coco puffs” and “lightning bust”
Aaaaaaaaand now I remember why I disliked these tags.
 
 
Coco Puffs aint that bad even if they remind me of the breakfast cereal in the store i work at lol
 
the puns could have been worse
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@Sakaki1999  
They didn’t give me a chuckle. They made me groan and loose neurons.
 
Most “pun” (using that very liberally) boob names were god damned awful, would win over other tags by virtue of their “clever” creator spamming them about, and were applied so liberally any image showing a character with a cup size over B would get them, NSFW or not. Their application ended up being the imageboard version of meeting someone and immediately exclaiming “nice tits, hot stuff!”, regardless of context.
 
I’m not sure you all understand what the problems are, but to summarize:
 
  • They’re not intuitive: as a new user, if I see “Headlight Sparkle” in the tag box of an image like this, this, or this, I have no idea what that tag means. None. It’s just a confusing line of text.
     
  • They don’t help me find tags for other characters. Even if we kept an alias from “pun” to “no-fun-allowed standard”, it’d take a new user several images and several clicks to realize that the standard exists, and that aliases can be searched like that.
     
  • A vast number of the pun tags are outright bad, and they “win” over others simply because someone had more free time or cared more and added the tag to as many images as possible before others could do anything about it.
     
  • Because they’re puns and “funny”, people love to overtag them, even when not conceivably applicable. IN THE BEGINNING, back when the first ones started showing up in Ponibooru, they’d only get applied on images of double Ds and higher (going into the fetish realms) where the breasts were a focus. Last few years, it’s practically anything that shows a character with a B cup or above, regardless of context. You may as well just search for “breasts (humanized OR anthro)”.
     
  • As I stated previously, the way they’re used often puts undue focus on the breasts, and sexualizing the character, and the artist’s work. Someone could spend hours creating an image with emotion and character, and someone will come by and go “nice honkers!”. While that can be bad enough as a comment, it’s in the tags, and the tags are what describe the images. You’ve taken something like this and reduced it all to “lol boobies XD”.
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@The Frowning Pony  
It still hurts me to see them go. And I might disagree with what’s funny and what’s not.  
But you have a point with the overtagging. So you’ll have a ton of images to have the ‘busty *’ tags removed now ?
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@Lead Pie  
If it’s not applicable, they will be. “busty X” has the advantage that it’s somewhat objective, so when tagging someone would think “is this character actually ‘busty’, and is that what I want to say?”, and when seeing it as a tag, it’s just an objective “this character has an above average breast size” and not “lel tatas”.
Sakaki1999

@Sakaki1999
They didn’t give me a chuckle. They made me groan and loose neurons.
Most “pun” (using that very liberally) boob names were god damned awful, would win over other tags by virtue of their “clever” creator spamming them about, and were applied so liberally any image showing a character with a cup size over B would get them, NSFW or not. Their application ended up being the imageboard version of meeting someone and immediately exclaiming “nice tits, hot stuff!”, regardless of context.
I’m not sure you all understand what the problems are, but to summarize:
  • They’re not intuitive: as a new user, if I see “Headlight Sparkle” in the tag box of an image like this, this, or this, I have no idea what that tag means. None. It’s just a confusing line of text.
  • They don’t help me find tags for other characters. Even if we kept an alias from “pun” to “no-fun-allowed standard”, it’d take a new user several images and several clicks to realize that the standard exists, and that aliases can be searched like that.
  • A vast number of the pun tags are outright bad, and they “win” over others simply because someone had more free time or cared more and added the tag to as many images as possible before others could do anything about it.
  • Because they’re puns and “funny”, people love to overtag them, even when not conceivably applicable. IN THE BEGINNING, back when the first ones started showing up in Ponibooru, they’d only get applied on images of double Ds and higher (going into the fetish realms) where the breasts were a focus. Last few years, it’s practically anything that shows a character with a B cup or above, regardless of context. You may as well just search for “breasts (humanized OR anthro)”.
  • As I stated previously, the way they’re used often puts undue focus on the breasts, and sexualizing the character, and the artist’s work. Someone could spend hours creating an image with emotion and character, and someone will come by and go “nice honkers!”. While that can be bad enough as a comment, it’s in the tags, and the tags are what describe the images. You’ve taken something like this and reduced it all to “lol boobies XD”.
 
You do make a point with the last one.
 
But for the rest of the tl;dr, I soothed myself by thinking “It’s okay. Not everyone can be smart enough to appreciate subtle wordplay humor like I can.” :/
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  • They don’t help me find tags for other characters. Even if we kept an alias from “pun” to “no-fun-allowed standard”, it’d take a new user several images and several clicks to realize that the standard exists, and that aliases can be searched like that.
 
I feel like this problem is more to do with the nature of the site than any one tag. Realizing that aliases exist is just part of the process of getting used to the site. I agree that some of the pun tags are vague like the Headlight Sparkle one, but really, a brand new user isn’t going to be confused by that for more than a few seconds after clicking the tag to see what other images are under it. I also agree that these particular ones are used a bit too liberally, but like many others I need to stress how much tags like these form part of Derpibooru’s culture. There’s nothing to fill in that gap once those tags are removed.
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…these form part of Derpibooru’s culture. There’s nothing to fill in that gap once those tags are removed.  
This is a site has over 1.2 million images, nearly 6 million comments, and forum with nearly 3 million unique responses. And that’s not counting the numerous off-site links to other parts of the fandom. I really don’t think we’re lacking in the culture department here.
The Frowning Pony

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If it were up to me, there would be a feature for people to select which names in a list of aliases they would wish to see in the tag box. But the technical aspects of the site are not really up to me, as some things are just unfeasible or too costly (in terms of implementation effort and/or server use).
 
Given the limitations at hand, I’d rather the site err towards being functional, easy to use and start using, than to sacrifice those values in favour of “memes” with a sentimental aspect that could actually be damaging the site’s core purpose.
 
I may often be the personification of “no fun allowed”, but things like this aren’t done because we hate fun.
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@Exedrus  
They are were part of Derpibooru’s unique style though.  
But I think this is the end of punny tags on this site. They will all be replaced sooner or later.
 
@The Frowning Pony  
I don’t think that would be a smart idea. If everyone could pick whatever tag they’d like for something it might all get much more complicated.
Exedrus
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They are were part of Derpibooru’s unique style though.  
For me, it’s always seemed like Derpi was overflowing with cultural pieces, of which these tags would form a tiny bit.
 
But I think this is the end of punny tags on this site. They will all be replaced sooner or later.  
We don’t even know that this current pun tag change will stick. I suspect they won’t.
 
And, I mean, just looks at all this: two threads spanning months of discussion on this topic. I don’t think the other tags will be going down soon/fast. I mean there’s already been so much time dedicated to just these tags. I can’t imagine that the mods would be too eager to try another of these changes soon after having to deal with all this.
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So much fuss over puns.  
Puns are such SERIOUS BUSINESS.  
I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist.
 
@The Frowning Pony  
Agreed, especially on their groanworthiness and overused-ness. Everything good should be used in moderation, because it usually turns bad otherwise. Example: memes, lots of memes.  
I would say I’m on the side against breast puns, but that’s mostly because I’m biased against them, and I’m just one background duck amongst a numerous userbase so I’m not insisting/expecting for my opinion to count.  
Well, at least I can use the script in case this change gets reverted.
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