Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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To add to that is favorability. Hillary’s was underwater by I want to say ten points or so, while currently Harris’s is positive (which is a rarity in today’s climate) with an even more liked vice presidential pick in Walz.
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Israel has launched an attack on the Hezbollah headquarters,and likely killed leader Hassan Nasrallah. And as you can see in these trending posts, people are celebrating including in Syria and Iran.
And supposedly Lebanese TV show host Marcel Ghanem has stated “Hezbollah should be ashamed for using us as human shields”. And it’s not hard to believe that.
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I know that this might come out wrong, but there is no such thing as a clean war. There will always be civilian deaths, regardless of military faction.
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When Israel is called the “most moral army in the world,” them striking civilian sites looks (and effectively is) much worst than an “average morality” army. It’s like Trump being a terrible businessman would be meaningless if him being a good businessman wasn’t a selling point.
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The issue is that the IDF is making zero effort to mitigate civilian casualties, and in fact seems to be trying to maximize it. The US government is turning a blind eye to repeated war crimes committed by the IDF so they can keep sending weapons and money because “Our only ally.”
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I have no idea where you got that.
I’m not getting my hopes up yet, not until it’s an absolute certainty she can win by a comfortable margin, and I have very little faith in the average voter.
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I think this right here is what will be Harris and Dems’ saving grace, is a gap in enthusiasm. Yes, polling shows it’s close, but that leaves it up to turnout. If Trump’s crowds are shrinking and his fans are leaving his rallies disappointed, MAGA voters are deflated. And if they stay home from the polls even by a couple points, Donald is cooked.
EDIT: Plugged another scenario into the swingometer. Made Black and Latino voters 3 points more Democratic and increased turnout by three points each, reduced Trump’s share of college white voters by 4 points and increased Harris’s by 2 points, then finally reduced non-college white turnout by two points while keeping vote shares the same.
Results: Harris secures all of Biden’s 2020 states, flips North Carolina by single digits, flips TX and FL by one point each. Trump wins Iowa by mid single digits, Ohio by low single digits, and South Carolina and Mississippi by mid and high single digits, respectively.
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During the Harris vs. Trump debate, when Harris told the viewers to go to his rallies to see how boring they are and how small the crowd size is, Trump turned livid and stayed that way for the rest of the debate. Trump craves attention and can’t stand it when someone points out how dull his rallies are. I think the Harris/Walz campaign team knows this and will mock Trump’s crowd size whenever they can.
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Honestly I’m still disappointed that Harris didn’t press on the fact that he’s a convicted felon+ adjudicated rapist. Really press on the fact that this election is between a criminal and prosecutor.
But the fact that you could see the exact moment he lost the debate meant she still had a winning strat hitting him on crowd sizes. I guess you could assume she knew he probably had retorts ready for the top ones, but it’s clear how he’s still livid almost a month later that the attack vector she went with was the correct one.
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The odd thing about Trump is that calling him a convicted felon, fascist, crook, or anything negative about him doesn’t seem to work against him. It may work against ordinary people, but Trump is anything but ordinary. Calling him “weird” or pointing out how small his rallies are what ticks him off.
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Yeah I’m still trying to wrap my head around the fact that calling him a failed business man, Russian stooge, felon or rapist etc not only doesn’t work but in fact makes Republicans like him more.
But a casual “kinda weird bro” gets them to re-enact the Gordy scene from the movie Nope.
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They’re so used to believing they’re the norm that when they get called weird it really sends them into a frenzy
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I keep thinking that running for President is easily one of the worst career decisions Donald Trump has ever made. The kind of shit he was able to skirt away on because “lol wacky business guy” just does not work once you have that much power.
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I have never seen someone freak out about being called weird. Except if you count them mocking the absurdity of thinking that calling your political opponents weird is a viable strategy to help you win.
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The fascist mindset is that they are normal and everyone else is ‘unnatural’. Calling them weird is attacking their delusion. For anyone else being called weird is harmless but not to a fascist cause so much of what they do is build around convincing themselves they are not weird even though they know that they are.
Attacking your political opponents for being weird is something that only really works against fascists and not really anyone else.
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