Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@Zincy  
I personally believe that Biden—despite the fact that I’m voting for him in the morning today, out of him being the only available option against Trump—is far more senile than this opponent, although this does actually make Trump look a bit senile too, though.

@Background Pony #617D  
I’m French, so I know a thing or two about government-run healthcare.
 
The US healthcare is so bad precisely because it’s been left in the grubby hands of the private sector for so long.

@Zincy  

 
To be honest, I have long ascribed to these principles (still do, today), in and of themselves, not too long (about a year to 4 years, at least, at that gradual rate) after I had become interested in things, topics, events and situations around 6 to 7 years ago, that inevitably involved their application(s) by me to the understanding, debating, and formulating of my own opinion or educated conclusion on said things, topics, and situations, both religious and non-religious (though mainly non-religious), even as a Catholic.

@Ereiam  
Okay, how much exactly do you know about the personal experiences of people in the United States with the largely privatized healthcare system that do just fine with it, and would like to keep their current health care plan under any future sort of nationalization or implementation of universal healthcare?

@Vivace  
You say that as if there are absolutely no ways to improve fracking, and/or to ensure that such environmental effects are mitigated, or don’t happen.

@Background Pony #11A9  
That dude probably thinks the New York Post is better news.

@Background Pony #617D  
I know that plenty of Americans either can’t afford medical coverage or got screwed over by their health insurance when they needed it. Single-payer healthcare is the way to go.  
As for personal experience, I got hospitalized last year for a kidney stone and it didn’t cost me a dime. Had it happened in the US, it’s a five-figure bill I’d have had to contend with.

@Background Pony #617D
 
It’s not uncommon for bosses to pay their workers a shit living wage and then try to deflect blame from themselves by blaming the immigrants that they themselves hired at lower salaries than natural-born citizens would agree to. Divide and conquer.
 
Unless you can prove that talking about race distracts from the class warfare that the rich wage against the poor and that intersectionality isn’t important, cut it out.

@Commune  
Oh, I’m sure he has such a high opinion of the two entities, then. 🙄

@Violet Rose in The Rain  

 
@Background Pony #CBA9  
Imagine it being dismantled by the very people trying to force a profit motive and competition into the industry without regard for how lower income beneficiaries would be screwed over by it? Sounds as bleak as what’s US healthcare now.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  

 
You may need to differentiate between bosses who actually do what you are describing them as doing, and bosses who are actually happening to be speaking the truth if they were to say that illegal immigration is the cause—or a cause—behind lower wages for the natural-born US citizen employees of theirs, rather than lumping the two groups of bosses together.
 
Also, just what exactly do you have to back up your assertions above, citation-wise?
 

 
Except neoliberals have always been using race and other characteristics to distract from the so-called “class warfare” for the past 6 to 10 years, and likely even longer.
 
Also, all I need in order to prove that intersectionality is an absolutely garbage concept—and is in no way important, like you make it out to be—is simply the knowledge of the fact that it, in and of itself, completely strips every single human being of their individuality by assigning them to castes of which they are deemed of whether or not they’re more “oppressed” than another group/collective of people, based on their inherent physical, mental, and emotional traits that they cannot change, in the hopes of continuing any social, economic, and institutional progress that actually necessary but cannot be achieved, via this manner, not to mention that it relies on assumptions and generalizations about all of said different categories/classes/groups of people, without ANY real regard to the individual, whatsoever.
 
It is an inherently divisive and destructive philosophy that will always end up doing more harm than good in attempting to ensure equality, net-zero cases of discrimination, and equal opportunity for all, both under the law, and in life, in general.

@Ereiam  
Ah, that’s interesting. Personally, as an American centrist who leans more to the left than the right on the issues overall, I have long since discarded any potential quarrels that I may have had with Become cept of universal healthcare, though mainly on the conditions that private insurance companies can and should be allowed to continue to exist, and for people who like their current health care plans under those companies to be able to keep them, while allowing everyone else the opportunity to be able to ascribe to a coexisting nationalized system.
 
In all honesty, I really don’t see how what I’ve underlined and highlighted in bold above is really too much to ask of or think about, as I have literally seen nobody else around my age have that same position on health care that I do, so far.

@Background Pony #3364  
*the concept of

@Background Pony #617D  
The problem is the same even in this era, though.

@Background Pony #3364  
Some people seem to think it must be either/or for some reason. (Although admittesly, “everyone can keep their current plan” seems kind of implausible.)

Bit of credit where credit is due for last night’s debate. Apparently a Coyote is an actual term for immigration smugglers, and Trump did not say ‘Good’ in response to the 500+ children incapable of being reunited with their parents, he said ‘Go Ahead’ to the moderator.

@Dustcan  
Jeez people didn’t know what that term meant? Cheech did a skit about being a coyote dealer on one of the C&C albums.

Why are we wasting our time…we know how this election will turn out.

@Background Pony #8E3D  
You mean like this?
 

Politics just cause complicated arguments. It’s been like that for centuries.

@CaptainXtra  
If a nuke goes off at the white house or an assassination is attempted like you said…it would at least be…exciting(?) Not at all good of course, but damn where’s the excitement.

It’s absolutely ridiculous that big companies get away with not paying taxes.

Does Cuntface McConnell have re-vitiligo or something?

@Background Pony #8E3D  
We also knew how it’d turn out four years ago, didn’t we? /s