Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@Latecomer  

 
Yeah but in order for that to happen we would have to make the upper classes all over the world stop hoarding all the money. By definition that would mean the lower classes would have more money spread between them and therefore be more capable of self-sufficiency.
 
But that would be socialism so…

@Latecomer  
And simply implementing a policy to allow the government to take legally owned property from the law abiding is still illegal under the constitution, they tried that here in California, nobody complied.

@Dustcan  
Tell NASA to grab that golden asteroid.

@TheMagpulPone
 
Pretty sure NASA got its funding slashed.
 
But I think that happened under Obama so I finally get another opportunity to rag on him. ‘Thanks Obama!’

@Dustcan  
I miss our Space Shuttles.

@TheMagpulPone  

 
…you know Crowder is a failed comedian who lies constantly on his show right?

@Dustcan  
I mean, as much as US immigration policy sucks, I sort of figured not letting non-working people in was the norm, you know? Or is it that they have jobs, but not ones that will actually sustain them and their families without government aid?
 
 
@TheMagpulPone  
Well if that’s the case, what are you afraid of?

@Latecomer  
Because that would mean people would no longer be able to enjoy their property, they wouldn’t give them up, but they wouldn’t be able to freely use them anymore, either. Unless of course they’re a criminal, since they don’t follow any laws regardless.

@neutralgrey  
If you say so.

@TheMagpulPone  
He’s just a propagandist.

@neutralgrey  
Again, if you say so.

@TheMagpulPone  
What would you say if instead of “illegal” confiscation, there was a large popular push to legally amend or annul the Second? Large enough to approach the Constitutional requirements for doing so?

@Latecomer
 
The norm is that as long as you follow procedure and meet qualifications then you can immigrate, to oversimplify it. Generally though people don’t emigrate if they got it good in their home country, so immigrants typically are low-skilled workers who can’t get the high paying jobs, and thus not unusually need assistance.
 
The problem is that anti-immigrant sentiment uses this to push a narrative that all immigrants are by definition lazy welfare-moochers…when that rarely turns out to be the case. Because apparently nobody believes the American Dream is a thing anymore.

@Latecomer  
Considering that it couldn’t actually happen given the States it would require, idk. But I do know that people still would not comply, just as the Founding Fathers intended.

@TheMagpulPone  
No I’m not just saying he’s a liar I’m stating a fact. He lies about global warming and misrepresents the facts and he also has really shitty beliefs, I mean the dude defended Guantanamo Bay for fucks sake.
 
Crowder is a liar and a piece of shit, change my mind

What I care about is clean air, clean water, and a healthy environment to raise kids in.
 
Half the incel fucks in this country wont ever breed, and couldn’t care less if we wreck the place. Those idiots should be ignored.
 
Corporations that pollute heavily, and that pose a clear risk to surrounding populations should be forced to change or get shut down. Technological innovation should not be held down by the greed of a select few. And the government should do everything in its power to keep our air, water, and food safe.
 
 
Do this, and you have my vote. Everything else is secondary to me.

@neutralgrey  
I can’t change your mind, but you likely can’t change mine, either. At least not with those points. I’m more pissed that I can’t install a Cold Air Intake on my truck thanks to environmental regulations, and I have no issues with Guantanamo Bay.

@TheMagpulPone  
You do know it’s a violation of human rights and violates the due process clause of the constitution right?

@neutralgrey  
I’m pretty sure that’s why it’s not technically in the United States.

@TheMagpulPone  
That doesn’t make it any better, if anything it makes it worse

@Dustcan  
What kind of qualifications?
 
@TheMagpulPone  
And how does one define a just law?
 
(Certainly, I find it hard to believe anyone pro-Guantanmo could have much meaningful to say on justice or rights, but…)

@Latecomer  
Probably because despite being extremely young, I still remember 9/11 to this day because my parents were out of country and couldn’t get home which freaked me out as a child. So I fucking hate terrorists.

@TheMagpulPone  
And suspected terrorists. And innocent people turned in for bounties.

@TheMagpulPone  
Do you also hate serial killers and child molesters? Because they get due process and protection from torture - or do you think they shoudn’t?