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I'm pretty positive that the french resistance was not a "man's only" sort of thing. "[There is also definite historical evidence that proves women were spies in WW2, resisting Nazi occupation and undermining their efforts and gathering intelligence.":](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spies_in_World_War_II)


 
When you're resisting invaders to your country, you can't really afford to exclude anyone based on gender.


 
There are also multiple cases of Jewish Americans signing up to fight the Nazis. "[And Jewish British":](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Brigade). This isn't "identity politics" because this shit actually happened. Jews _*did_* fight the Nazis. "[Women _*were_* spies in WW2.":](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Hall) I don't understand where this thought of "Only christian white men ever fought in WW2" came from.

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[Even _*black people_* fought in WW2,":](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_II) as part of a segregated unit. "[They even fought in WW1 for fuck's sake.":](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_I

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> They're statistical anomalies[/bq]



 
....and? Are their efforts worth any less just because they're an "anomaly"? Are they somehow less important in history just because they were a minority?

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I'm pretty positive that the french resistance was not a "man's only" sort of thing. "There is also definite historical evidence that proves women were spies in WW2, resisting Nazi occupation and undermining their efforts and gathering intelligence.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spies_in_World_War_II

When you're resisting invaders to your country, you can't really afford to exclude anyone based on gender.

There are also multiple cases of Jewish Americans signing up to fight the Nazis. "And Jewish British":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Brigade. This isn't "identity politics" because this shit actually happened. Jews _did_ fight the Nazis. "Women _were_ spies in WW2.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Hall I don't understand where this thought of "Only christian white men ever fought in WW2" came from.

"Even _black people_ fought in WW2,":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_II as part of a segregated unit. "They even fought in WW1 for fuck's sake.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_I

[bq]They're statistical anomalies[/bq]

....and? Are their efforts worth any less just because they're an "anomaly"? Are they somehow less important in history just because they were a minority?

"@The Frowning Pony":/forums/generals/topics/itsthinking-avoid-this-thread?post_id=4694762#post_4694762

I'm pretty positive that the french resistance was not a "man's only" sort of thing. "There is also definite historical evidence that proves women were spies in WW2, resisting Nazi occupation and undermining their efforts and gathering intelligence.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spies_in_World_War_II

When you're resisting invaders to your country, you can't really afford to exclude anyone based on gender.

There are also multiple cases of Jewish Americans signing up to fight the Nazis. "And Jewish British":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Brigade. This isn't "identity politics" because this shit actually happened. Jews _did_ fight the Nazis. "Women _were_ spies in WW2.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Hall I don't understand where this thought of "Only christian white men ever fought in WW2"

"Even _black people_ fought in WW2,":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_II as part of a segregated unit. "They even fought in WW1 for fuck's sake.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_I

"[bq]They're statistical anomalies"[/bq]

....and? Are their efforts worth any less just because they're an "anomaly"? Are they somehow less important in history just because they were a minority?

"@The Frowning Pony":/forums/generals/topics/itsthinking-avoid-this-thread?post_id=4694762#post_4694762

I'm pretty positive that the french resistance was not a "man's only" sort of thing. "There is also definite historical evidence that proves women were spies in WW2, resisting Nazi occupation and undermining their efforts and gathering intelligence.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spies_in_World_War_II

When you're resisting invaders to your country, you can't really afford to exclude anyone based on gender.

There are also multiple cases of Jewish Americans signing up to fight the Nazis. "And Jewish British":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Brigade. This isn't "identity politics" because this shit actually happened. Jews _did_ fight the Nazis. "Women _were_ spies in WW2.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Hall I don't understand where this thought of "Only christian white men ever fought in WW2"

"Even _black people_ fought in WW2,":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_II as part of a segregated unit. "They even fought in WW1 for fuck's sake.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_I

"They're statistical anomalies"

....and? Are their efforts worth any less just because they're an "anomaly"?

"@The Frowning Pony":/forums/generals/topics/itsthinking-avoid-this-thread?post_id=4694762#post_4694762

I'm pretty positive that the french resistance was not a "man's only" sort of thing. "There is also definite fact and historical evidence that proves women were spies in WW2, resisting Nazi occupation and undermining their efforts and gathering intelligence.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spies_in_World_War_II

When you're resisting invaders to your country, you can't really afford to exclude anyone based on gender.

There are also multiple cases of Jewish Americans signing up to fight the Nazis. "And Jewish British":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Brigade. This isn't "identity politics" because this shit actually happened. Jews _did_ fight the Nazis. "Women _were_ spies in WW2.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Hall I don't understand where this thought of "Only christian white men ever fought in WW2"

"Even _black people_ fought in WW2,":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_II as part of a segregated unit. "They even fought in WW1 for fuck's sake.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_I

"@The Frowning Pony":/forums/generals/topics/itsthinking-avoid-this-thread?post_id=4694762#post_4694762

I'm pretty positive that the french resistance was not a "man's only" sort of thing. There is also definite fact and historical evidence that proves women were spies in WW2, resisting Nazi occupation and undermining their efforts and gathering intelligence.

When you're resisting invaders to your country, you can't really afford to exclude anyone based on gender.

There are also multiple cases of Jewish Americans signing up to fight the Nazis. This isn't "identity politics" because this shit actually happened. Jews _did_ fight the Nazis. Women _were_ spies in WW2. I don't understand where this thought of "Only christian white men ever fought in WW2"

Even _black people_ fought in WW2, as part of a segregated unit. "They even fought in WW1 for fuck's sake.":https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_African_Americans#World_War_I