Thats a fitting name for a captain like Fluttershy.

@Ichijoe  
If there are aliens watching out TV transmissions, they’ll only get made when they start receiving Keeping Up With the Kardashians.
 
Or find out Single Female Lawyer got cancelled…

Of course this assumes there’s someone/thing within that 60-odd Lightyear Bubble with enough intelligence to igmore us…

Plus there’s that sticky bit about not being able to exceed the speed of light. Like the Guide states: “Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down to the Chemist but that’s just Peanuts to Space…”
 
And we ain’t any closer to inventing the Infinite Probability Drive, any faster then say ST’s Warp Drive. So if anything we’re the ones in n danger of transmitting Technicolor Ponies to the Universe: Saying come on down! For the last 60+ Years now.

@Background Pony #3783  
Logically if there are other sapient beings in the Galaxy it’s not like they’d just let us ruin it, and in all likelihood there would be technological disparity. That is, races with technology far, far exceeding our own and with much larger territory and population, so the likelihood of us being able to just go on a rampage across the Galaxy are probably slim. A lot of people just assume all races, if they existed, would all be at the same level.

@TheAbridgenator  

 
As much as I miss Gene Roddenberry, the idea of a non-religous Federation in just a few hundred years is fucking stupid. Much like you said earlier, religion would not die off just like that. Also, I’m kinda glad we got a more gritty side to Star Trek in later years. As much as I want to see a Utopian society, it wouldn’t stay like that forever. Eventually, a galaxy wide disaster or hostile alien race (Hell bent on wiping us out (Like the Xindi for example)) is gonna cause that Utopia to toughen up a bit.

@TheAbridgenator  
Well, GR envisioned Star Trek as “Wagon train in Space,” and worked in episodic 50s TV, so I wouldn’t expect anything really groundbreaking. He laid the foundation and ‘divers hands’ built the castle. What gets me is that the original ST pilot is actually more daring that the TV show, with a female Number One, more alien Spock, etc. I guess the execs panicked.

@kircher  
Oh, if Roddenberry was in complete control the cast of Star Trek would be virtually indistinguishable from the Borg, but that assumes it would have even cleared the pilot. The dude literally DID NOT WANT CONFLICT BETWEEN CHARACTERS. If it was up to him everyone would have been exactly the same, except for the women who would all be topless.
 
Hell, look at today. Being realistic, there’s more reason to doubt religion than ever before, but it still exists and inspires passion. Even JMS, who is a declared atheist, used religion in B5 to explore those themes.

@TheAbridgenator  
Good point. I haven’t seen DS9 in forever, so don’t remember details. I just don’t recall many humans doing religious things in TNG, but your idea is definitely plausible. Though the later “dark side” of Starfleet (Section 31, etc) kind of opens the door to that kind of chicanery a bit. Personally, I think the lack of religion is one of Roddenberry’s major faults, but he seems to have been naive about big things in a lot of ways. To quote Brannon Braga (don’t hate me):
 
“In Gene Roddenberry’s imagining of the future […] religion is completely gone. Not a single Human being on Earth believes in any of the nonsense that has plagued our civilization for thousands of years. This was an important part of Roddenberry’s mythology. He, himself, was a secular humanist and made it well-known to writers of Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation that religion and superstition and mystical thinking were not to be part of his universe. On Roddenberry’s future Earth, everyone is an atheist. And that world is the better for it.”
 
That’s pretty sad from a cultural standpoint, and also absurdly silly to think religion will die that fast, or ever die. I don’t think later writers, especially after he died, really paid much attention to that, and rightly so.
 
 
@Background Pony #3783  
You’re probably right. Star Trek is here we should have gone, but if we ever do reach the stars, it will probably be more Warhammer 40K. Maybe Babylon 5 if we’re lucky. Not to say there aren’t times I’d like to have an agonizer. . .

@Background Pony #3783  
Nah, the way things are going we’ll all be dead before we even clear our solar system. No sweat! OwO d
 
 
@kircher  
I like to imagine that the atheist bent on Star Trek applies exclusively to Starfleet as a sort of unwritten rule of conduct so as not to accidentally engage in crusades or cause internal conflict, and in the Federation proper religion is still practiced frequently. Remember, in DS9 Sisko’s dad actually quoted Biblical scripture to his son to provide him with wisdom, and he’s one of the characters on the show who is expressly outside of Starfleet.

@kircher  
It’s scary how we’re acting more like The Terran Empire these days than The Federation O_O
 
Unless we get our shit sorted out, I think the galaxy’s about to be fucked over.

@Background Pony #3783  
Well, ST also shows a universe where all Terrans get along regardless of color, sex, etc. and religion doesn’t seem to be a factor, other than some vague Zen like meditation. I guess that’s why it’s caleld science fiction.

@Evil Emperor Proteus  
I’m aware of that in the movie’s universe. I was talking about it to a real world point of view. People like using money, I doubt a system like it shows in the movie is what we’re gonna use in the future.

@Background Pony #3783  
Human society does not use money. The government and military uses a form of money for certain things they need to interact with others for, such as Dilithium and technology exchanges, etc…
 
Humans living on Earth don’t need money or jobs because everything they need is provided for free. You can still get a job for additional benefits, including a form of currency. For example, you wouldn’t be entitled to the use of a holo-deck as a pass-time if you didn’t have a job, but if you did, you could reserve time at a holo-deck with money from a job you chose to have. Latinum/Gold-Pressed Latinum is also used as a form of rare currency.

@Evil Emperor Proteus  
Whenever I hear Picard in First Contact say the Federation doesn’t use money, I just can’t help but call ‘bullshit’. WE NEED AN ECONOMY OR ELSE WE ARE FUCKED!

@TheAbridgenator
 
I’m glad he kept that joke in the reupload, though wish he’d kept that vulgar confab joke in his reupload of Encounter at Farpoint…

@Ichijoe  
Daedelus ships are canon (USS Archon, etc). The Dreadnoughts were silly kitbashes, even if the future Enterprise-D in All Good Things is sort of a homage.

@Ichijoe  
Certain planets and organizations have no internal currency or economy, but to think an entire Galaxy all got together and decided they were not going to have an economy is unrealistic. Various materials cannot be replicated, including Gold, Latinum, Dilithium, so these materials, and many others, still warrant a galactic economy. There will always be an economy as long as there are things of worth that more than one group wants. The reason Earth and other planets don’t have internal economies and currency is because everything a person needs to survive can be created from nothing through replication.
 
Throughout all of Star Trek, they have not even explored 0.001% of the Galaxy the series is set in. A Galaxy is huge, so it should be easy to understand how diverse and different the various races and organizations are, and likewise easy to understand how so many cultures and organizations do not work together in unison.

@Ichijoe  
Currency-less or not, the Federation can’t exactly afford to throw resources at building starships that aren’t going to work right.

I thought the Trek-Verse was above the concept of dirty finance? I thought it was something only the Ferengies actually cared about?

@Ichijoe  
Yeah, ToS style dreadnoughts looked like this:  
 
Daedalus Class ships fall somewhere between the NX-01 and ToS.

TFW: I forked up… I done got my Dreadnought’s mixed up with ma Daedalus Class Ships…  

@Ichijoe  
I don’t think the tech Manuals are considered canon, but that’s a whole other issue. They might have gotten the inspiration for the med ships from them, though.

Fear the OFF-button hypospray.

@kircher  
No though we never actually saw them in ToS, The Dreadnaught Class was a thing. At least in the printed Tech Manuals. Which pre-date TNG by a few years. Its why I brought it up. Perhaps they recycled the design for Med Ship use, when the started using heavier Cruisers like the Excelsior, or Galaxy Classes?