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Sorry man but you are still completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

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> >don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]



 
No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013 and is only here for the same reasons TFH is in.
 
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST LAN TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top players from around the world for a LOT OF MONEY (for a fighting game tourney). Players for whom being 15 miliseconds off ruin entire combos, the absolute best of the best. You saying that your online experience "isn't perfect but still" does not matter, for these people playing offline and online is night and day, "apple and oranges" like you say.


 
The tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.


 
Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
 
Again, we are talking about **PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT**,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
 
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the last two months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.


 
That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care. The fact that TFH is at EVO, let alone one of the main tournament, is incredible to a degree you have no idea of, and we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are memeing about Smash being completely absent, showing that the most important tournament of the year agrees that Smash's online is terrible.


 
So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please **STOP TAKING THIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.** Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are still completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013 and is here for the same reason.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST LAN TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top players from around the world for a LOT OF MONEY (for a fighting game tourney). Players for whom being 15 miliseconds off ruin entire combos, the absolute best of the best. You saying that your online experience "isn't perfect but still" does not matter, for these people playing offline and online is night and day, "apple and oranges" like you say.

The tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the last two months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care. The fact that TFH is at EVO, let alone one of the main tournament, is incredible to a degree you have no idea of, and we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are memeing about Smash being completely absent, showing that the most important tournament of the year agrees that Smash's online is terrible.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are still completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013 and is here for the same reason.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST LAN TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top players from around the world for a LOT OF MONEY (for a fighting game tourney). Players for whom being 15 miliseconds off ruin entire combos, the absolute best of the best. You saying that your online experience "isn't perfect but still" does not matter, for these people playing offline and online is night and day, "apple and oranges" like you say.

The tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the last two months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care. The fact that TFH is at EVO, let alone one of the main tournament, is incredible to a degree you have no idea of, and we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are still completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013 and is here for the same reason.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST LAN TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top players from around the world for a LOT OF MONEY (for a fighting game tourney). Players for whom being 15 miliseconds off ruin entire combos, the absolute best of the best. You csallying that your online experience "isn't perfect but still" does not matter, for these people playing offline and online is night and day, "apple and oranges" like you say.

The tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the last two months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care, we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are still completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013 and is here for the same reason.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top player for a LOT OF MONEY. Players for whom being 15 milisecond off ruin entire combo, the absolute best of the best. You calling the experience "isn't perfect" does not matter, the tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the last two months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care, we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are still completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top player for a LOT OF MONEY. Players for whom being 15 milisecond off ruin entire combo, the absolute best of the best. You calling the experience "isn't perfect" does not matter, the tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the lastt two months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care, we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are sitill completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top player for a LOT OF MONEY. Players for whom being 15 milisecond off ruin entire combo, the absolute best of the best. You calling the experience "isn't perfect" does not matter, the tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the lastt wo months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care, we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are sitll completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top player for a LOT OF MONEY. Players for whom being 15 milisecond off ruin entire combo, the absolute best of the best. You calling the experience "isn't perfect" does not matter, the tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the lastt wo months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care, we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THATIS PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are sitll completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top player for a LOT OF MONEY. Players for whom being 15 milisecond off ruin entire combo, the absolute best of the best. You calling the experience "isn't perfect" does not matter, the tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*,which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.
THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the lastt wo months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best input accuracy of players.

That is the ONLY reason TFH is one of the four game, and everyone knows this. We definitively won't see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care, we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THAT PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.

"@Beau Skunky":/images/2350293#comment_9015704
Sorry man but you are sitll completely missing the point, it seems you don't know what Evo is or what is happening.

[bq]>don't buy that "Herds" "dethroned/killed" SSB. Even if SSB was allowed in, "Herds" would still be in, I'm certain, seeing as it's a new Indie game.[/bq]

No, it wouldn't. The number of real tourneys at EVO are really limited every year and it's a gauntlet to get in (with MUCH MORE COMPETITION THAT YOU THINK.) The fact that you think TFH would enter normally is laughable, Skullgirls, which TFH is based on, hasn't been in since 2013.
By your description you seem to take EVO as some casual tournament, EVO is normally THE BIGGEST TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR, featuring the top player for a LOT OF MONEY. Players for whom being 15 milisecond off ruin entire combo, the absolute best of the best. You calling the experience "isn't perfect" does not matter, the tournaments during the containment have completely different winners because the gameplay change so drastically when online. MKLEo, the Absolute best smash ultimate player, who won 17 tourneys out of 22 and was 2nd the 5 others, hasn't won any tournament since online, sometimes losing in RO32.

Every single smash pro is criticizing the online tournament, it is that awful, there are a shitton of video on youtube talking about it (and criticizing characters like Sonic).
Again, we are talking about *PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING TOURNAMENT*, not your casual stuff, which evo is the peak of, not your casual stuff,.

THAT is why Smash isn't at evo, they don't want a repeat of previous tournaments the lastt wo months , full of lag, cutoff, and people doing crazy wonky stuff because of missed input due to input delays, so instead they took 4 games of the best netcode possible, using rollbacks, for the best onlineput accuracy of players.
That is the ONLY reason TFH is there and we definitively wont see it as a main event for EVO later, but we don't care, we'll enjoy every second of it. It's also why everybody and their mother are meming about Smash being completely absent.

So no, nobody believes that TFH "dethroned" smash, but it sure is a lot funny to meme about it, enjoy the ride while it last, and if you're mad that smash isn't in, get mad at nintendo like everybody else, but please *STOP TAKING THAT PICTURE SERIOUSLY.* Thanks.