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mjangelvortex
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#F609"]Any person new to the show, will not figure out that Discord would lay with Celestia after watching 7 seasons of the show and then visitng fandom sites.[/bq]

 
Shipping's not that difficult to comprehend. Some people just like the idea of seeing two particular characters together for whatever reason it may be (they might like how they interact with each other, they might like how they look together aesthetically, or they might wonder how'd they interact if they haven't had much interaction in canon). It's a just for fun thing that fans do along with making fan art, fan fiction, and OCs.


 
A person who is new to the show can figure out more about the canon characters easily by watching the show or by reading up on the characters on a wiki page. If there's any fan art that doesn't match up to what they've seen from official sources, they'll know that whatever art they're looking at is simply fan made. It's not rocket science.

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#F609"]It is something just rooted in mentality of the older fans. Is like looking at SombraShy fan art.[/bq]

 
You'd be pretty wrong by implying that only older fans ship. Children and teens do it too. I've seen younger fans ship things from MLP and other series now as well.


 
I also did it when I was a child and a teen myself. When I was a child I shipped Jessie and James from Pokemon despite the two of them being on a just friends basis in the show. I knew they were just friends but I thought it would have been cute if they got together. And when I was a teen and was into Avatar: The Last Airbender, I'd watch from the sidelines as other teenagers would argue over whether Katara would end up with Zuko or Aang.

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#F609"]The ship is liberty on its own, and you defend her by saying that at least she still kept her alicorn race and stripes. What will be your breaking point? When she appear without wings? Or also without stripes? Or just having a "Celestia" written above her head will be enough?[/bq]

 
You bet I defended her for that. It's her art, not yours. I'd understand your complaint a bit more if you were commissioning her and she drastically changed up what you asked and paid for her to draw on purpose. But this isn't a picture you paid for. It's just a cute little innocent picture this artist made on her free time for fun to express her love for the show.


 
And I don't know. Maybe I don't have much of a breaking point. Hasbro, DHX, and IDW pretty much set the seeds for fans to have different interpretations for Celestia (and Luna) anyways.


 
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>>153134p
 
>>358132p


 
Celestia certainly doesn't look like this in the show (and never has) but as far as Hasbro is concerned, these toys are all Celestia.


 
>>583354p


 
Also thanks to the pictures in Twilight's book in the pilot episode, and the fact that Luna had "[two":](/716840?q=s1+luna%2C+screencap) different "[canon":](/722322?q=luna%2C+animated%2C+screencap%2C+Celestia) designs. People assumed the same must have applied to Celestia and applied this to their fanart as well.


 
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>>907623p


 
And while the show's flashbacks contradicted this idea a few times in their flashbacks, the IDW comics kind of threw a bone at this idea by giving Celestia a normal mane that was mostly pink in one of their flashback issues.


 
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>>1409653p


 
So they kind of implied that it got its extra colors, sparkles, and magical movement when she got older and gained more powerful magic. This is something the show also kind of implied as well considering that Twilight's mane did something similar when Celestia, Luna, and Cadance gave her their magic.


 
>>623020p


 
Speaking of Twilight, because she had to earn her wings, because Cadance had to earn her horn, and because everyone (Celestia and Luna included) were so surprised that Flurry Heart was a natural born alicorn, some fans believe that Celestia and Luna might have ascended to alicornhood and had to earn wings and/or horns themselves.


 
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>>1386140p


 
So yes, there is plenty of fanart of Celestia without wings out there. I think that Celestia and Luna are natural born alicorns due to both "[Word of Faust":](/315900?q=word+of+faust%2C+Celestia) and due to the Tale of Two Sisters book and think that them being natural born alicorns is canon.


 
However, since the show contradicted this and the show, books, and comics sometimes contradict each other, as far as I'm concerned fanart of them as non-alicorns is fine with me too. Plus when most fans do this sort of stuff, it's for alternate universe related stuff anyways. Not to mention, [the comics gave Celestia a pegasus disguise](/1580743?q=Celestia%2C+race+swap) so there's enough wiggle room for people to draw Celestia as other species beyond just an alicorn. She also has a human counterpart and due to mirror shenagins, Princess Celestia can potentionally become a human (or Principal Celestia could become a pony).


 
Also certain spells can cause characters to change species as well. Case in point, "[Twilight turning herself and her friends into Breezies":](/564268?q=screencap%2C+animated%2C+breeziefied), the Pearl of Transformation "[changing the Hippogriffs and Ponies into Seaponies":](/1473866?q=screencap%2C+%22seapony+%28g4%29%22), or Discord using his chaos magic to "[temporarily turn Pinkie Pie into an Alicorn":](/1580719?q=princess+of+chaos). With all this in mind, why does the idea of Celestia ever being different from her current canon design in fanart bother you?


 
If shipping, fan made alternate designs, and certain fan made human designs really bother you that much, I suggest you use the tagging system and filter them out. If you're a random passerby without an account, feel free to make one and filter out the things you don't like. It's one of the best things about this website. The tagging system allows people to filter out things they don't like as well as look up the things they do like. It's not perfect by any means, but the mods and users here try their best to keep the tags properly organized so other users can look through the images smoothly.
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mjangelvortex
Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Lunar Supporter - Helped forge New Lunar Republic's freedom in the face of the Solar Empire's oppressive tyrannical regime (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab
Elements of Harmony - Had an OC in the 2022 Community Collab
Non-Fungible Trixie -

Lady of Ships and Birbs
"@Background Pony #F609":/1632830#comment_6818936
[bq="Background Pony #F609"]Any person new to the show, will not figure out that Discord would lay with Celestia after watching 7 seasons of the show and then visitng fandom sites.[/bq]
Shipping's not that difficult to comprehend. Some people just like the idea of seeing two particular characters together for whatever reason it may be (they might like how they interact with each other, they might like how they look together aesthetically, or they might wonder how'd they interact if they haven't had much interaction in canon). It's a just for fun thing that fans do along with making fan art, fan fiction, and OCs.

A person who is new to the show can figure out more about the canon characters easily by watching the show or by reading up on the characters on a wiki page. If there's any fan art that doesn't match up to what they've seen from official sources, they'll know that whatever art they're looking at is simply fan made. It's not rocket science.

"@Background Pony #F609":/1632830#comment_6818936
[bq="Background Pony #F609"]It is something just rooted in mentality of the older fans. Is like looking at SombraShy fan art.[/bq]
You'd be pretty wrong by implying that only older fans ship. Children and teens do it too. I've seen younger fans ship things from MLP and other series now as well.

I also did it when I was a child and a teen myself. When I was a child I shipped Jessie and James from Pokemon despite the two of them being on a just friends basis in the show. I knew they were just friends but I thought it would have been cute if they got together. And when I was a teen and was into Avatar: The Last Airbender, I'd watch from the sidelines as other teenagers would argue over whether Katara would end up with Zuko or Aang.

"@Background Pony #F609":/1632830#comment_6818936
[bq="Background Pony #F609"]The ship is liberty on its own, and you defend her by saying that at least she still kept her alicorn race and stripes. What will be your breaking point? When she appear without wings? Or also without stripes? Or just having a "Celestia" written above her head will be enough?[/bq]
You bet I defended her for that. It's her art, not yours. I'd understand your complaint a bit more if you were commissioning her and she drastically changed up what you asked and paid for her to draw on purpose. But this isn't a picture you paid for. It's just a cute little innocent picture this artist made on her free time for fun to express her love for the show.

And I don't know. Maybe I don't have much of a breaking point. Hasbro, DHX, and IDW pretty much set the seeds for fans to have different interpretations for Celestia (and Luna) anyways.

>>220869p
>>153134p
>>358132p

Celestia certainly doesn't look like this in the show (and never has) but as far as Hasbro is concerned, these toys are all Celestia.

>>583354p

Also thanks to the pictures in Twilight's book in the pilot episode, and the fact that Luna had "two":/716840?q=s1+luna%2C+screencap different "canon":/722322?q=luna%2C+animated%2C+screencap%2C+Celestia designs. People assumed the same must have applied to Celestia and applied this to their fanart as well.

>>6563p
>>907623p

And while the show's flashbacks contradicted this idea a few times in their flashbacks, the IDW comics kind of threw a bone at this idea by giving Celestia a normal mane that was mostly pink in one of their flashback issues.

>>1406254p
>>1409653p

So they kind of implied that it got its extra colors, sparkles, and magical movement when she got older and gained more powerful magic. This is something the show also kind of implied as well considering that Twilight's mane did something similar when Celestia, Luna, and Cadance gave her their magic.

>>623020p

Speaking of Twilight, because she had to earn her wings, because Cadance had to earn her horn, and because everyone (Celestia and Luna included) were so surprised that Flurry Heart was a natural born alicorn, some fans believe that Celestia and Luna might have ascended to alicornhood and had to earn wings and/or horns themselves.

>>1601742p
>>1386140p

So yes, there is plenty of fanart of Celestia without wings out there. I think that Celestia and Luna are natural born alicorns due to both "Word of Faust":/315900?q=word+of+faust%2C+Celestia and due to the Tale of Two Sisters book and think that them being natural born alicorns is canon.

However, since the show contradicted this and the show, books, and comics sometimes contradict each other, as far as I'm concerned fanart of them as non-alicorns is fine with me too. Plus when most fans do this sort of stuff, it's for alternate universe related stuff anyways. Not to mention, the comics gave Celestia a pegasus disguise so there's enough wiggle room for people to draw Celestia as other species beyond just an alicorn. She also has a human counterpart and due to mirror shenagins, Princess Celestia can potentionally become a human (or Principal Celestia could become a pony).

Also certain spells can cause characters to change species as well. Case in point, "Twilight turning herself and her friends into Breezies":/564268?q=screencap%2C+animated%2C+breeziefied, the Pearl of Transformation "changing the Hippogriffs and Ponies into Seaponies":/1473866?q=screencap%2C+%22seapony+%28g4%29%22, or Discord using his chaos magic to "temporarily turn Pinkie Pie into an Alicorn":/1580719?q=princess+of+chaos. With all this in mind, why does the idea of Celestia ever being different from her current canon design in fanart bother you?

If shipping, fan made alternate designs, and certain fan made human designs really bother you that much, I suggest you use the tagging system and filter them out. If you're a random passerby without an account, feel free to make one and filter out the things you don't like. It's one of the best things about this website. The tagging system allows people to filter out things they don't like as well as look up the things they do like. It's not perfect by any means, but the mods and users here try their best to keep the tags properly organized so other users can look through the images smoothly.
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